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Old 11-19-2017, 04:11 AM #41
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Poppies were sold for flower arrangements because the law was not enforced, like the CBD laws are not enforced. Those selling the heads would be just like the CBD sellers telling you their product is totally legal. But even before the epidemic talk LE started coming down on the heads.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:45 AM #42
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I will stay out whether and where it is illegal or not. Here where I live and grow it is OK as long as the intent is to sell or use the seeds, pods, and/or flowers for baking and/or decoration. Washington state has the same law as Alaska, these are the only two states I have direct evidence from.

The reasoning is the small amount of active chemical in the pods. To make a gram of usable opiate would take 250 pods, about twenty plants which take four months to mature. Growing enough to abuse would take a great many acres and a crew of workers. Addicts can use up to a half gram or more per day. This means hundreds of acres of garden would be necessary to support one person's habit.
Poppy fields cover thousands of square miles in the Golden Triangle where illegal opiates come from and more square miles cultivated in Tasmania for the legal supplies.
Home grown is not an option for this plant to be used as a source of drugs.

Meanwhile it has been another five days. The first month is a busy one for Poppy sprouts. They are taking on their characteristic Dandelion appearance. The wrinkly leaves resemble the Dandelion as does their spokes in a wheel circular arrangement. These leaves will continue to grow in this pattern for the first six weeks.

Assuming those reading this are familiar with marijuana growing and bud rooms I will mention a few differences other than the reverse lighting schedule.
No blurple, the amount of light needed for proper Poppy growth is about half again as much as MJ and red/blue do not carry enough energy to the inner leaf. HPS is difficult as the Poppies really like the blue spectrum, high altitude and sparse cloud cover. HPS combined with blurple may work, I use full spectrum as it is simpler than balancing the yellow/green HPS.

The most common problem among new Poppy growers is the sprouts lying on their sides the first week. They usually recover and I have seen advice saying this is normal.
No, it is not normal, it is from inadequate light. Half again MORE than budding marijuana is necessary.

Progress is going to remain similar for another month now that the leaves have assumed their shape and configuration.
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Old 11-22-2017, 02:52 AM #43
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:36 PM #44
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Just careful with the harvesting side of things if you don't keep them in the pod form

I stopped growing poppies after i figured out a way to force 99% of latex out of the pods on a small scale(4-6 at a time), and even tho it has been YEARS...i can still remember that sweet taste and the nod it would give me..

I used to also like my poppy tea but again, stopped that a long time ago....

Amazing how fast u can develop a taste for it.

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Thanks for all the replies.
I got a pretty good pull from my Black Carnations, even after some loss due to open windows. It's about time to get some started in the cold room just to see what happens. I'll be growing 4 strains this year...
White (either peshawar or persian, I can't remember exactly)
Black Carnation (blooms all summer untul hard freeze in the fall)
Hen & Chicks (didn't like the earth box)
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It's not just addictive it's considered an essential plant for medical purposes by the WHO.

I wonder what they have to say about cannabis? Lol

Far as consumption goes...
I was told I had an allergic reaction to morphine while in the OR getting my hand reconstructed. I don't think I'll have any problems with these beautiful flowers. However, I know a few folks that won't get to enjoy their beauty because they know what they can do. Thanks for your concern.
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Old 11-24-2017, 11:52 PM #45
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Some correct comments here..
HEED the advice for around the SouthEast US..
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Catawba County man arrested for having an acre of opium poppies valued at $500 million

Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...#storylink=cpy

I'm in Pain management..
Of course We folks are getting Our arses handed to us BECAUSE of the "Bad Actors"..
I'm off the "pharma Pills",, as I obtain 4 pounds of seeds per month, for "baking"....
Better effects than Pharma/Bakery stuff..
I'm gonna try my hand with some Blue Carnation poppies next spring.
Lovely Flowers they are..
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Old 11-26-2017, 02:37 PM #46
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Police officers have quite an amount of discretion in the performance of their duties. The officer responding to my poisoned cat complaint could have decided my Poppies were for consumption rather than ornamental, but he did not.
Attitude is a factor. The officer stated outright that if I had been an asshole about the situation then he would have made a different decision.
The man growing the Poppies mentioned in the previous post had been growing the Poppies for some years without a problem until he was caught with instructions for extraction and abuse. The years he only sold the seeds were OK.

One month old now, not much change. The diameter of the leaves is greater and the resemblance to Dandelions is also greater. Root structures are different or I would believe the plants are related.
When the stems appear all resemblance to Dandelions is gone, the stems will grow out of the leaves themselves instead of the center of the plant.
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The policy of ICMag is not to encourage felony lawbreaking by posts advocating the use of or facilitating the use of narcotics.

Much information I have gathered falls under those contraindicated guidelines. I like it here and am only addressing the difficulties indoor growing presents.

One of the major obstacles is the sheer amount of energy required, six kilowatt hours of electricity per equivalent milligram of yield.
Marijuana gives one hundred times the yield for the same input, 160 grams versus .16 grams.
Home grown indoor poppies are a curiosity, not a commercial product.
Further lighting problems will be highlighted when the pods become erect and extend more than a foot above the leaves, causing the pods to burn under artificial lighting. Later pictures will demonstrate this.

Meanwhile, the long filaments of root have reached the bottom of the containers and are curling up. The 12" deep container has about a 10% growth advantage over the 9" container. In the past I have found roots extending over 4' and they probably went further, most are finer than human hair.

Still looking like Dandelions, the Poppies are sucking up energy as if it's their birthright.
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Any reason you don't grow them outdoors in the summer?
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