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Old 06-05-2017, 08:20 AM #161
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In philthys mix does it need aged at all or can one plant rt into it? thanks
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:48 AM #162
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Old 07-03-2017, 08:03 AM #163
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Real organic mix dont have aerators.. organic soil is soft,black and smells like healthy
harvested shrooms,plants dont have problems to breath or to spread roots in this kind
of soil if she is not pressed stiff inside pot so any kind of aerator is just growers
fiction plant needs them.

Mine Base mix-
70% Black chernozyom soil
30% Wormcastings

and after that you input amendments,crunched kelp,antartic krill meal,Low temp processed fishmeal,dry beer yiest,etc..
mineral part--granite dust,agro lime,maerl,zeolite
use also beneficial bacteries and mycos.


Theres no aerators but is more pure soil mix that will help feed plant in more proper way,
less defs on plant and they grow stronger,less ph swings as bacteries keep
medium in balance.


Actually this are pure organic soil-mix,type that is rare if we compare most of them
that contain perlite,coco,rice husks or any other aeration part... for me those
aeration mixes are empty.. as there is a lot of space in pot that dont contain
valuable soil mix..i read there are a lot of mixes that have to 30% perlite..
so you have in the end 30% of "emptyness" inside your pot... while there
could be a normal soil mix that contain just pure soil and wormcastings.. lot
more organic matter,more pure soil mix and less "emptyness" in your pots that will help your plants reach optimum and grow strong...

Dont know for other people but i grow this way for 6-7 years now and i dont go back..
dont need of aeration of any kind,recicling a soil.. everything works like charm.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:45 PM #164
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Coco coir and #4

Has anyone used the mo'koko premium select coco substrate? I am using 60% that, 30% #4 sunshine, and 10% perlite. I just started using that in 10 gallon air pots. I am trying to figure out the watering schedule, it's a bit tricky. Any tips out there?
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Going to try the fox farm mix 3 bags one each of Ocean Forest Original and lite warrior. Dont have much room so I spit it into a half batch. Would like to reuse the soil after the run . Im only running the Happy frog organic mix joe stated. for nutes at 1/2 cup mixed in will this do the job . I also got some oyster shell and going to start collecting stuff to use blood bone meal and such. Anyone tryed this mix? I have transplanted a few to some OF and sent them to flower have not had to add no nutes yet to those.been a week or so in the mix. Just transplanted some today to the new organic mix will see what happens. How much water with my tea shouls I add to the mix to get it kickin it is about 15 gallons of mix? dont want to flood the microbes out. LOL.
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Going to try the fox farm mix 3 bags one each of Ocean Forest Original and lite warrior. Dont have much room so I spit it into a half batch. Would like to reuse the soil after the run . Im only running the Happy frog organic mix joe stated. for nutes at 1/2 cup mixed in will this do the job . I also got some oyster shell and going to start collecting stuff to use blood bone meal and such. Anyone tryed this mix? I have transplanted a few to some OF and sent them to flower have not had to add no nutes yet to those.been a week or so in the mix. Just transplanted some today to the new organic mix will see what happens. How much water with my tea shouls I add to the mix to get it kickin it is about 15 gallons of mix? dont want to flood the microbes out. LOL.
Not sure if I understand your questions or can answer them but I have been using the Fox Farm recipe for many years and am very pleased with it. It's a great base to start from, especially if you grow from seed. The original recipe calls for 8 to 10 quarts of perlite to also be added. Not sure why Joe omits that - if he just forgot, or really didn't add it, but I advise doing so. It's just an easy lazy-man's mix that can perform.

I do feel that the replacement of Happy Frog Fruit & Flower instead of Peace-of-Mind Fruit & Flower has resulted in an inferior mix, but that's anecdotal.

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Thanks for the reply Im using the 3 bag mix just only mixed half the full amount of dirt and am basically wondering what all I can amend to the soil without cooking my plants. And What do I need to amend back into the dirt next run as I would like to use blood and bone meal kelp oyster shell or the 3 they are using for re amending I think lime oyster and gypsum alfalfa and stuff as I want to try a different way other than the Happy frog Nutes. I been picking up stuff here and there.. About 15 gallons of soil I will be reusing.
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Thanks for the reply Im using the 3 bag mix just only mixed half the full amount of dirt and am basically wondering what all I can amend to the soil without cooking my plants. And What do I need to amend back into the dirt next run as I would like to use blood and bone meal kelp oyster shell or the 3 they are using for re amending I think lime oyster and gypsum alfalfa and stuff as I want to try a different way other than the Happy frog Nutes. I been picking up stuff here and there.. About 15 gallons of soil I will be reusing.

If I were you I wouldn’t add anything other than what the recipe calls for. I don’t reuse the mix (other than into the garden, flowerbeds/pots, etc.). To reuse it would include work to figure out what to put back in. Taking away from the laziness of it all.

I would think you would want to run it as called for, at least a couple times before adding anything else. It is a “water only” recipe. And if your concern is in burning your babies, then definitely hold off on adding anything. I have found the mix to be generally tolerable by the great majority of plants grown (even once dropped a jade plant into it). And I can say that years ago when I did mix blood, bone, oyster, kelp, green sand, vermiculite, etc., etc., trying this and that soil mix, I found (roughly) the same percentages for expressions from seed that weren’t generally happy and satisfied as I do now in this mix, which isn’t as much work - and showed (roughly) better percentages.

No reason you can’t mix it in halves, that’s what I do.

If running from clone, doing what you’re looking to do will be much easier than running from seed. I run from seed; which makes "dialing-in" a bit tricky. But the mix is a nice palette to work from.

Have you considered going no-till? If I wanted to “reuse”, I think that would be the ticket - but not as easy as mixing a few bags together.
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I hear ya water sounds good just want to help them along with botanical teas and stuff . I am doing clones. Im constantly planting back into the soil . I was doing it with promix and
just some lime add a root ball to the tub bust it up and use the dirt from the other end the tub. I was using bottle nutes . So I been reading about how t amend back the lime gypsum and oyster a long with the rockdust and such. I know its more work but like to stay active while my pain is under control.
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Ofcourse I find this thread after 1 year of research and completing my recipe after hours and hours of analyzing recipes. This should have been in the organics section! ERRRRRRR
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