Profiling postal packages.

Julian said:

Sorry man, just something I have quite a bit of exposure with and something to say........

You know....all criteria aside.....Let's say one knowingly alters packages (not to fit profile)...okay, you still can't avoid source and destinations......

LA to New York?.........Phoenix to Chicago?.......El Paso to Newark?........Miami to DC?.....

Pfffffff.....who needs criteria? (throw in size/feel and african american names or hispanic names?...fuck?...even generic white or ethnic names?...

Still hot as all hell.......and, really difficult (we're talking product now.....)

Cash?...... east to west/north to south?...no reason to....no matter what the amount..(money orders and cashiers checks not a problem no matter what the amount.....)

Now.......what many overlook...is that never a bad idea to put a little distance on it and alter your source state.....or destination.......ie: Instead of New Mexico?........run it up and send out of Denver......Source states something you just can't get around......and, believe me...I have done my share of El Paso to NY, etc.....and similar..........I mean.....that in itself screams for a closer look...just seeing the source and destination cities....and, as above and discussed...one can imagine larger packages, and, overnight packages....these days I wouldn't be caught dead having such sent out of even remotely close to any kind of acceptance......

(Probably not a great topic, but, once volume increases your avenues open up dramatically..........so many people want to "save" money....while sacrificing potentially your own ass.......Cali...SW...Texas...hot as all hell...always have been and only get worse day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year, and, yes.....interdiction efforts are not single people like most imagine......we're talking dedicated efforts with large teams that operate on a moments notice at any given facility......When I get another chance will grab some interesting cases....(no shortage......)

Of course, common knowledge about carrier issues...(ie: UPS and FedEx, DHL, freight companies, etc, are private.......warrants not required......more risky, but, flip side of USPS is of course Federal......so then your looking at Federal charges......

Then some might want to cut up amounts to smaller packages......which might help, but, as above then your still dealing with source and destinations.....and, have to run more packages to make up the volume........

(I'm pretty well versed on trains and planes and buses and highway systems also ......)

I have some experience with such matters ...and, been saying it for years.....rewards not worth it anymore....safer to just make it on site safely ...

I have known more than my share of people doing 30-40yrs down south......

(now.....some might say that currently the borders supposedly are kicking federal cases out, and, not prosecuting less than 500lb loads.......lot written about it....Feds kicking cases to local, who are already understaffed and swamped with their own case loads....and, cases just dropped.......not pursued, but, I wouldn't say such is wise because that may very well be the case at some borders/states/crossings......but, not something I would rely upon ......

Reality is I would assume almost all wouldn't be sending more than a z or so...with a couple here and there actually sending a p or more....but, nevertheless.......topic should be of value because risk is not necessarily volume of package...but what search warrants for locations might turn up...(ops, weight, cash, plant count, etc.,....), which is the true angle and risk.....(fuck the z-p.......the real issue is the 3k with 60 plants, 4p's shelf ready and 16k cash and the 9.......)

Anyone with something to lose shouldn't be dabbling in the mail....wayyy to much potential exposure...

Now of course most people will use their fake return addy's and names to protect their end, and, maybe even the same on the other side (fake name, right address.....) Okay, fine, but problem is (clearly from cases found) that even if they get a negative, or even 2 negatives on the sniff's, then when digging deeper and checking addy's with local PO's, they are going to find all bogus, which without the sniff then creates reasonable suspicion, and, your back to square one....

I just feel sorry for everyone who missed all the fun in the "good old days" when you could check baggage with 200p's on domestic west/sw to east flights, or, could easy send through 100's every day of the week and sometimes twice daily ......

Not like that anymore.......and, back to above....overnight?....just increases risk......anything carrying a paper trail?...just ammo for future investigations and establishing a pattern......

(Lot of people will try and think they can rely on the innocent claim.......which doesn't work in the first place and then completely tossed out when they execute a warrant and find communications with area code packages are from on your phone records ....

Now.....some might see the heavier holidays as opportunities to act on (Christmas,Mothers Day,etc...) due to increased volume....and, sad truth is they increase manpower for heavier traffic holidays....

A classic....single post office....2000lbs in 48hrs.....

Always a soft spot for that area.....spent a lot of my youthin that neighborhood.......Those were the days ....Those were the days......few people can even imagine what it's like down south....

Bottom line is it has to be spotted and pulled before subjected to sniff....but, then again,....you can get around most of profiling criteria, but, always stuck with source/point of origin and destination.......

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deltronZER0 said:

for shipping? read the thread dude, jigs up.
xrays can see everything you send

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