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Old 06-06-2018, 01:03 AM #1041
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No: a COLD NITROGEN BATH isn't a HEATER.

No matter HOW many CONS tell you otherwise.

You've got to be able to figure out if a cold nitrogen bath is really a heater, alert one.

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My family farms. Mention a climate change hoax at dinner and they'll feed you to the pigs. I never heard of running out of hay in 55 years. That was as ridiculous as no snow all winter. Now it happens every few years. Hell, we get maybe 3 weeks of enough snow on the ground to use our snowmobiles, when we used to get two full months! This is just fracking insane. And when the US corn belt starts screaming, the armchair scientists will blame china for using weather modification technology or blame HAARP for it.

Sheesh... Quit following Alex Jones people. You do know the nut bars are getting rich off you right?
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For those of you who continue to believe a cold nitrogen bath is a magical heater, no.

Everything about the fraud is known, including how the frauds reach a temperature calculation for our Earth Atmosphere - well known since we ultimately calibrate either directly or indirectly, every instrument for measuring almost anything on the planet, against accurately known mean sea level, humidity, pressure, and temperature variables.

The Frauds refuse to make use of the Gas Law written for calculation of the temperatures of gases, instead fraudulently claiming to be able to calculate accurate temps for gases using solely Stefan-Boltzman radiation calculation process.

Stefan-Boltzman possesses no formula for accounting the 33 DEGREES of COMPRESSION WARMING

INTRINSIC to COMPRESSIBLE-PHASE FLUIDS: GASES.

Hence the NEED for - go figure - GAS LAW to calculate GAS TEMPERATURES.
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This alone is the ABSOLUTE scientific end for hope in the "mathematics that make a cold nitrogen bath a heater."

No and another thing that's not true and yet's been spammed worldwide by government and "world-class research university peer reviewed science" :

POT'S NOT LIKE HEROIN and WORSE for one than METHYL AMPHETAMINE EITHER.

Theyve been telling gullible people for 80 years, "an WE GOT the CRITICAL RESEARCH UNIVERSITY, SCIENTIFIC PEER REVIEW TO PROVE IT IN COURT, BUSTER! ALL the WORLD'S GREAT MEDICAL ASSOCIATIONS AGREE that DEVIL WEED is the GATEWAY to HEROIN!

Thanks Democrats for illegal pot in 1937. I don't know which has done more for our nation, your founding the Klan or making pot illegal.

And oH! LooK!

The Democrats ALSO brought you THIS

WORLD ENSLAVEMENT SCHEME

and actually TAUGHT you in SCHOOL, that "uh cold bath is a magic heedur!"

Just like they told your grandpa sitting in the SAME school desk, "That devil wead will git yew hooked on thim opioids. Yew better jist stick to opioids if you don't want to get hooked on opioids.

THAT'S THEIR MEDICAL PLATFORM THIS MOMENT of THIS HOUR of THIS DAY I WRITE IT.

GIT OFF that DEVIL WEED

or YOU ARE GONNA GET ON OPIOIDS. To STAY OFF OPIOIDS, YEW GOTTA GIT YEW SUM OPIOIDS, and NOT THAT DEVIL WEED
CAUSE IT'LL MAKE YOU GET ON OPIOIDS.

You're in here now: SIGNED IN ANONYMOUSLY: because GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE CHEMISTRY SCAMMERS

SOLD you a story that a COLD NITROGEN BATH is a HEATER.

And that cold light blocking REFRIGERANTS in the bath are the magical CORE

of the COLD BATH that's a HEATER.

You've got to be smarter than standing there telling yourself "Thim GUVURMINT FELLURS WOODEN NEVUR LYE TWO ME, THAY'S AWL got BOW TIES and thair OWN PARKIN SPOT down two thuh YEWNIVERS'uhTEE!"

No, a COLD NITROGEN BATH is not was not will no be tomorrow, a heater.

The cold REFRIGERANTS in the bath are not the CORE of said heater

and if they are - come on in and show us all one.
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For those of you not so prone to believe it because "Yew dun herd signtsie thangs, frum muchly speshul fellurs, sez the signts, is sownd"

We can discuss it at a level above it so - tell me if you can, - ANY of you claiming

magical gassiness made a cold bath a heater,

What's the name of the law written for solving the temperatures of gases and what happens along the way if you don't account for compression warming intrinsic to compressible phase fluids?

How many degrees does your calculation come out to be off, from the Standard

International Standard Atmosphere's values against which ultimately we calibrate and regulate nearly every instrument, motor, engine, or anything that makes heat or pressure, on the planet?

What happens to the answer?

On Earth, when calculating Earth atmosphere temperature - you come up with a mandatory shortfall if you use Stefan-Boltzmann processes only of

that's right, kids: 33 degrees.

When you USE GAS LAW
to ACCOUNT for the 33 DEGREES WARMING intrinsic to COMPRESSIBLE PHASE MATTER

your ERROR VANISHES
and just like that your answer matches the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE,

PROPERLY depicting EARTH'S Atmosphere's ACTUAL average TEMPERATURE.

What does Magic Gas Hansen tell you "nitrogen cooled government computers" can do?

Calculate SO FAST
that THEY DON'T NEED to PROPERLY INCLUDE GAS LAW and can GET BY using ONLY STEFAN-BOLTZMANN PROCESS mathematics.

Again: WHY ARE YOUR CHURCH'S CALCULATIONS for ATMOSPHERIC TEMPS always OFF?

Not using GAS LAW
to solve Atmospheric temperature
incurring the MANDATORY 33 DEGREE SHORFALL
such
ERROR - for Hansen he was scamming grants, it was no error -

ALWAYS
CREATES.

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The reasons I noted above, are why none of you who believe in the "magical gassiness that makes a cold nitrogen bath a heater"

even know the NAME of the GAS LAW your CONNING LEADERS refuse to invoke.
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Here's a test, environmental "pot's like heroin" class believers.

What's the name of the law of physics written by physicists specifically for solving gas temperature?

What are the laws parts?

How many parts does the law have?

Why does the law have multiple parts?

What is the formula of the law written by scientists to calculate the temperatures of gases?

If you know what you're talking about you should be able to swiftly and clearly speak on the law, since - it's only an equation.

What is the equation of the law written by scientists for solving gas temperatures?

Explain the Law's significance in science history. What does the law combine and unify that previous efforts couldn't?

We'll all wait while you stare out at the yard exclaiming to yourself and your family, that -

"it's the end times, and we're all gonna die cause we made the sky hot by usin fire!"

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Old 06-06-2018, 01:49 AM #1044
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latest greenland melt

the latest from the greenland ice sheet
last year had some impressive late year melting
this year is doing some impressive moves, pictures do speak for themselves
not a prediction for the year's melt, but should not be ignored
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The thing about the process of melting, is that it takes an awful lot of energy to achieve the phase conversion from solid ice to water.

Once the ice is melted, all the energy that was heating the system, to cause the ice to simply melt, goes into heating the water left behind.

And the rate of temperature increase, increases a lot.

Having all that ice there is good, or was good.


And on the other end of the spectrum, the movie about the ice age 2, Day After Tomorrow -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_IseK3xTc
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Pictures mean nothing. The modern video era is rife with people presenting various naturally ocurring phenomena to claim

"The laws of fisicks has dun got Backerds!"

No, they haven't.

And the COLD NITROGEN BATH isn't a heater no matter how many

"importunt guvurmint fellurs with bow ties,
and thair names on thay's own parkin spot
down two the yewnuversatee,

told you it's one.

Just like pot wasn't like heroin when your grandpa was going around trumpeting that you were

"all gonna git hooked on thim opioids and heroin if we don't get off that devil weed and git on just opioids!"

Your pictures mean nothing. The laws of reality mean everything and reveal you a crass and obviously willfully ignorant preacher of fraud.

No nitrogen bath was, or ever will be, a heater.


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the latest from the greenland ice sheet
last year had some impressive late year melting
this year is doing some impressive moves, pictures do speak for themselves
not a prediction for the year's melt, but should not be ignored
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https://earth.nullschool.net/#curren...-86.518,60.759


these both show temperatures below zero in the arctic and in greenland today...
weather is not climate but a result of it.
your claims are as bogus as ......astroturf!
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these both show temperatures below zero in the arctic and in greenland today...
weather is not climate but a result of it.
your claims are as bogus as ......astroturf!
here's the picture that i see from the link provided
which matches the current melting quite closely
edit: the upper link which is NOAA, didn't look at the 2nd one
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Why don't you have enough education to answer simple questions?

You want to argue about a cold nitrogen bath, being a heater

but there's not a scientific fact that indicates it's possible.

The atmosphere's many degrees colder than Earth

The conduction chilling is as simple as putting a fan on a computer chip.

It's the SAME MATERIAL AS Earth
being CONDUCTION CHILLED
by the SAME fluid.

You don't put a ''heating fan'' on a computer chip.
You put a COOLING fan on a computer chip.

Every place you people turn you're shut-out

so you're reduced to showing pictures of glaciers known to be melting.

The part you don't want to talk about is that a lot of the world's glaciers are growing: Eurasia/India, North America, New Zealand, and most especially

Antarctica

which CONTAINS 90% of the WORLD'S ICE.


2015: Nat Geo, a magazine RUN by fervent magic gassers:
What Antarctica’s Incredible “Growing” Icepack Really Means

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...limate-change/

SCIENTISTS: ANTARCTICA'S ICEPACK GROWING since 2005,
mainly up - not out to sea

https://www.iceagenow.com/Antarctic_...ng_Thicker.htm

Denmark the country legally responsible for measuring the climate driven elements on Greenland

REPEATEDLY REPORT GAINS in ICE since EARLY 2000s

MEDIA and OTHERS CONTINUALLY CLAIM
Greenland is melting.

https://dailycaller.com/2015/01/13/w...h-4-year-high/

After DECADES of denial, being ridiculed to shame, being unable to hide from the scam any longer,

N.A.S.A. FINALLY admitted "small gains" in 2017 with an official looking explanation why "it didn't really happen:"

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...rease-ice-mass

NASA and virtually all other so-called academic sources have been lying about Greenland melting for decades.

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/...s-record-pace/

The before/after blinking .gifs above are instances of Greenland ice pack in it's retreat/advance conditions near the sea just over a couple of years.

People find places where there isn't any ice in sight
and take a photograph.
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In WWII 6 planes, P-38s, the planes with the double fuselages,
all in good shape, were being transferred together by pilots.

Bad weather set in regionally and everywhere they turned there was bad weather.

Communications were jammed by a Nazi U-Boat.

A clear hole appeared and below were the almost perfectly flat ice sheets of Greenland. All six landed, and they all walked out.
No one injured.

Flash forward 55 years, these 6 planes are all known to be in pristine shape and are very valuable. Private contractors put together money and went where the planes were set down.

All six planes found, pristine: encased in ice, 260 + feet deep.

"Signtists" reported the ice they were melting into was hundreds of years old. "Hundreds of layers" was the catch phrase of the scandal at the time. Now, evidence of the scandal is difficult to find.

The entire humiliating incident was hushed up as absolutely effectively as possible,

by the world's largest publishing and media-worship group:

So-called "NATURE" ACADEMICS and their hangers-on,

who had their assertions see worldwide ridicule.

The people who found the planes could only afford to extricate one.
They used hot water and created several "pipes" in the ice, through which they reached the plane they extracted.

260+ feet.

Short version of the story in Popular Mechanics:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/fli...-p-38-fighter/

Huge photo trove from the expedition, from the link at the bottom of the story. Mind boggling when you think about it.

https://forum.spirit-modelcar.com/vi...p?f=117&t=1876

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Now: Ever hear any of the stories about the Academics who were claiming to see hundreds and hundreds of layers,
each representing a year
in that ice?

No? Wow... what do ya know about that.

Let's go over to wikipedia,

which is known to be a PRIME ASTROTURFING or

SCIENCE and HISTORY CLEANSING AREA

for A.C.A.D.E.M.I.C.S,

CORPORATIONS,

and other

POLITICAL//ORGANIZATIONAL FRAUDS.

Frauds like the ones who provided all those
SCIENTIFIC PEER REVIEW STUDIES

about POT BEING LIKE HEROIN.

The GLOBAL ACADEMIC FRAUD to make POT
look like HEROIN and WORSE for you than METHAMPHETAMINE.
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"Don't be uh...DuNYiN tha SiGNTS that..

''We all need to get on opioids if we don't want to get on opioids."
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Let's see what "Astro-turf-pedia" tells us about this STUNNING scientific story, and recovery expedition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Girl

ONE sentence. Sure doesn't seem normal, does it?

Matter of fact why isn't there a WHOLE body of Pal REVIEWED PAPERS talking about HOW MUCH EVERYBODY LEARNED
from this 260-something foot SURPRISE

to PSEUDO-SCIENCE?


That's called "ASTRO-TURFING" a subject
when manipulators, EDIT OUT REALITY of what HAPPENED to them
and make it APPEAR everything is fine in their fraud.

SCIENTISTS, 2002 to PRESENT: CALIFORNIA'S MT SHASTA GLACIERS ALL GROWING, SOME nearly DOUBLE in SIZE.

https://www.iceagenow.com/Glaciers_g..._Mt_Shasta.htm
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SCIENTISTS and SNOWPACK SPECIALISTS:

"NEWS of GLACIER RETREAT in HIMALAYAS is FALSE:
THEY'RE GROWING OVERALL, MEDIA REFUSES TO TALK ABOUT IT."


Only about 50 glaciers in the Himalayas,
of more than 9,000 glaciers:

have been STUDIED.

Academics refuse to study others which aren't shrinking, or likely shrinking.

https://www.iceagenow.com/Himalayan_..._Shrinking.htm

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Those pictures are worth a thousand deliberately disingenuous words.

Per the world temperature change map, I live in the light red area of Alaska, I remember back to the 1950's with fair clarity.
The 1940's were cold (per parents and grand parents), the 1950's were cold (per me), as were the the first years of the 1960's.
Late 1960's warmer winters began happening more often, cold spells became shorter.
The 1970's began an accelerated warming, cold winters were fewer with shorter duration of the high pressure ridges that cause inversions, resulting in fewer -60 and colder temperatures.
1989 saw a winter colder than the previous ten years, three weeks of -40. Nothing like the six weeks of -50 seen in the 1950's, but damn cold.

Jump to 2016. After an entire winter of above zero I removed my furnace and heated the house with the lights in the garden.
Not a problem, probably could have removed the furnace in 2013 but I worried about weather, cold winters still can happen, not as cold and not as often, but natural variability says they will happen.

The climate in Alaska has warmed and is continuing to warm faster every year.
Rumor has it this is a part of a worldwide result of climate changing the local weather patterns. I am not everywhere but that is true in Alaska.
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