Bagseed x NYCD X Sensi Star

Mars Hydro Led · Jun 13, 2023

Dropped Cat said:
Flower box is 20' x 22" x 29" high.

Watts to equal +/- 165w PLL flourescent.

Plants often grow to lights, no scortching allowed, lol.

The size of your tent is about 50*50*70. We currently recommend two lights, one is TS600, but it only has 100W, and the other is SP150, which has 140W. You can see if it meets your requirements.

www.mars-hydro.com/ts-600-led-grow-light
www.mars-hydro.com/sp-150-led-grow-light

Dropped Cat · Jun 14, 2023

What is the recommended distance from canopy, I wonder

Mars Hydro Led · Jun 14, 2023

You can refer to the following distances. These two lights cannot be dimmed, and you can adjust the hanging height according to the performance of the plants.
TS600：
Seedling: 24''
Vegetation: 14''
Flowering: 12''
SP150：Generally around 18''

Dropped Cat · Jun 15, 2023

Very informative. I will continue with the rig I have,

Thank you very much for your input

Dropped Cat · Jul 5, 2023

WR x WR 02 and F20302 x P1 females in flower pollinated
by both Agent Lemon and WR x WR, 5/21 are soon to chop,
the maturation has stalled, therefore prolonged flowering.

Please comment any knowledge of this peculiarity.

Many immature seeds evident, hopefully enough mature seeds to pop later.

The mature seeds from these two plants will be mingled as no way to determine pedigree.

Who knows what may turn up downstream, lol

zif · Jul 5, 2023

Dropped Cat said:
WR x WR 02 and F20302 x P1 females in flower pollinated
by both Agent Lemon and WR x WR, 5/21 are soon to chop,
the maturation has stalled, therefore prolonged flowering.

Please comment any knowledge of this peculiarity.

Many immature seeds evident, hopefully enough mature seeds to pop later.

The mature seeds from these two plants will be mingled as no way to determine pedigree.

Who knows what may turn up downstream, lol

You mean the peculiarity of the stall? Are they still pushing fresh flowers, or just not fading as much as usual, or ?

Dropped Cat · Jul 6, 2023

The plants are no longer pushing pistols, plants are begging to be chopped,
but many of the seeds are immature.

Both pollenated plants dusted with the AL and WR x WR pollen.

A mixed bag, so to speak.

At this point in time which pollen is sterile/bad has yet to be determined.

Soon to pollinate the SBR with WR x WR pollen kept in fridge.

If the pollinated SBR shows the lackluster seed development, then WR x WR pollen will be tossed.

There is the male Agent Lemon held in veg.

zif · Jul 6, 2023

Dropped Cat said:
The plants are no longer pushing pistols, plants are begging to be chopped,
but many of the seeds are immature.

Both pollenated plants dusted with the AL and WR x WR pollen.

A mixed bag, so to speak.

At this point in time which pollen is sterile/bad has yet to be determined.

Soon to pollinate the SBR with WR x WR pollen kept in fridge.

If the pollinated SBR shows the lackluster seed development, then WR x WR pollen will be tossed.

There is the male Agent Lemon held in veg.

You're at about six weeks out from pollination?

That's on the early side of seed maturation, in my experience, especially if you have heavy seed set.

More time could make a big difference, unless the plants are already dead. Even then, some argue for letting seeded plants stand as they dry down for maximum seed maturity.

I'm not sure I'd go that far, but the maturation/time tradeoff is definitely worth considering.

If many of those unripe seeds are empty/aborted/abnormal, of course, that's another story!

Dropped Cat · Jul 7, 2023

I chopped the WR x WR 02 pollinated plant, so many dead leaves, and low nute uptake.

Too many seeds, upon 10x observation are empty/aborted/abnormal.

The F20302 pollinated plant will continue until seed maturation is evident.

She seems less heavy seed set pollinated.

They received 6/9 nutes all the way, did not drop micro.

Previous pollination rounds were more mature in less time.

Thank you for your post, very informative

ReikoX · Jul 7, 2023

Often those small immature seeds are "aborts" and will never develop into a mature seed no matter how long you give them.

It could be the female. The clone-only MAC1, for example, is notorious for not setting many mature seeds.

It could also be the pollen, though that usually results in no seeds at all IME.

Often the pale seeds will still germinate. It happens in my worm bins all the time.

zif · Jul 7, 2023

Dropped Cat said:
I chopped the WR x WR 02 pollinated plant, so many dead leaves, and low nute uptake.

Too many seeds, upon 10x observation are empty/aborted/abnormal.

The F20302 pollinated plant will continue until seed maturation is evident.

She seems less heavy seed set pollinated.

They received 6/9 nutes all the way, did not drop micro.

Previous pollination rounds were more mature in less time.

Thank you for your post, very informative

Ironic that particularly 'good' pollination can itself be a problem!

zif · Jul 7, 2023

ReikoX said:
Often those small immature seeds are "aborts" and will never develop into a mature seed no matter how long you give them.

It could be the female. The clone-only MAC1, for example, is notorious for not setting many mature seeds.

It could also be the pollen, though that usually results in no seeds at all IME.

Often the pale seeds will still germinate. It happens in my worm bins all the time.

Apparently the MAC1 is a spontaneous triploid, so that definitely tracks!

Totally agree re: pale seeds. It's humbling to do a split germination test of what you grade as the 'best' and 'worst' seeds from a run - I've only found the worst seeds to have lower germination in one or two of my pollinations. Those included a lot of aborts, so it was not a surprise. But rejecting pale seeds out of hand is for commercial producers (and their customers). :tiphat:

Dropped Cat · Jul 8, 2023

Indeed

I'll reserve the best looking pale seeds and go from there.

The WR x WR pollinated plant is from an old cross and I don't give them seeds much credit.

Over pollinated, no doubt.

The F20302 stock is vigorous, therefore will let that one go for mature seeds.

Dropped Cat · Jul 12, 2023

Took a SBR cut.

Dropped Cat · Jul 14, 2023

Dusted the SBR in flower with the WR x WR reserved pollen, paintbrush style.

All the lowers dusted, top hopefully not pollenated

31 days since flip, will thoughtfully take her to maturity.

The WR x WR pollinated plant, chopped, drying in a paper bag,
will collect seeds without a cure, as the buds are not worthy stash

Dropped Cat · Jul 16, 2023

Collected the seeds from the WR x WR plant.

Maybe six or seven mature looking seeds plus a few tan ones.

Put them in the fridge with some rice, will germ some in a few weeks.

I'll post a pic of the retards soon, never seen seeds like that.

Dropped Cat · Jul 16, 2023

Some seeds in the thunk x SoLi stash, will pop some soon.

Not breeding material, but maybe a lime pheno keeper.

Dropped Cat · Aug 4, 2023

The two seeded plants doing well, despite the heat.

SBR x WR x WR

F20302 x WR x WR.

Also have a Cacao Kush 02 and a F20302 soon to chop.

Dropped Cat · Sep 9, 2023

All plants in flower chopped.

The seeded plants are showing mature seeds of the WR cross.

Will take cuttings of plants in veg to flip in a few weeks now that summer temps are levelling off.

Dropped Cat · Sep 10, 2023

Back log of pics, will post soon.

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