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bonecarver_OG
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Canna Boost V Molasses - side by side comparison.
- Thread starter Hazy Lady
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Just to be clear, this just a simple side by side, the results would hopefully show some differences, what type?, I don't know, hence the side by side, I am not sure how gardeners gauge the efficacy of microbes etc, other than simply using them, I am sure there are 1% of gardeners who are scientifically minded who will go further into any subject, I call them 'teachers' ( I have you in there
) ), but seriously I think most gardeners, - forgetting weed a minute - try products for whatever reason, hype, friends recommendations whatever!, but stick or fold based on the results they see, no chromatograph or slide rule, just observations and then if it is a food item, taste and yield. I would hope, not that I expect, but would hope to see that Canna Boost produces buds 12 x bigger, stronger and more fragrant than Molasses, well! it costs 12x more!!!!, which brings me on to our Bonecarver Hazy Lady
Mr B'
I never said it was so, I said I always thought it made sense, it does!, make sense I mean!, It was in answer to this from darookiehehe i wish plants were that simpleBUT it is not so. this statement is very simplyfied and almost missleading.
5Lts of Molasses for £7, fantastic!, thanks for the tip and the link
OK, the girls have been on their diets for a week, 2 weeks into 12/12 in total, not a lot to see so I wont post a load of pic's of stems, as there is a lot of haze in these plants the flowers do start slow, you can see here from this morning. I will start pulling each pair out to photo weekly from day 21, hopefully there will be something to see?
OK, the girls have been on their diets for a week, 2 weeks into 12/12 in total, not a lot to see so I wont post a load of pic's of stems, as there is a lot of haze in these plants the flowers do start slow, you can see here from this morning. I will start pulling each pair out to photo weekly from day 21, hopefully there will be something to see?
Hi all, first off Bonecarver I'm a big fan, and consider you as my greatest mentor so thanks for that. I've learnt more from your project eden thread than anywhere else. Anyway, were you suggesting panela be used in conjunction with blackstrap molasses, or just using one of them? If so what kind of ratio do you use. Thanks
Week 3 into 4 is when my ph-related issues always started to show up. So, I'm looking forward to the next round of pics.
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bonecarver_OG
but would hope to see that Canna Boost produces buds 12 x bigger, stronger and more fragrant than Molasses, well! it costs 12x more!!!!, which brings me on to our Bonecarver
hehe
i wish the boost would have done that too hehe newgrow - one is enough
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Zoolander
Boost works well and so does the other . I like Boost but the economy makes it a bit tough
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bonecarver_OG
hehe zoo mate
in what way do you think boost works¿?
it colours the rez water green besides that i dont think it does anything
peace
in what way do you think boost works¿?
it colours the rez water green
besides that i dont think it does anything peace
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bonecarver_OG
god darn thats cheap!! gotto have a look at the vets
peace!
peace!
youre welcome jackiee!
here is the nutrient profile for the feed grade (livestock/wildlife) cane molasses, imaginary garden:
Nutrient Name|Actual Dry Matter|Units
1 Weight......................1.0000 1.0000 Lbs
2 Dry Matter...............70.0000 70.0000 %
3 Crude Protein............. 2.8610 4.0872 %
7 Ash % ....................10.4905 14.9864 %
8 Total Sugar Invert ....46.7302 66.7575 %
9 Moisture .................30.0000 42.8571 %
10 Calcium ....................0.5150 0.7357 %
11 Phosphorus ...............0.0477 0.0681 %
12 Salt .........................0.3433 0.4905 %
13 Sodium .....................0.1431 0.2044 %
14 Chloride ....................2.2888 3.2698 %
15 Magnesium ................0.1907 0.2725 %
16 Potassium .................3.4332 4.9046 %
17 Sulfur .......................0.2956 0.4223 %
18 Cobalt ......................2.9645 4.2350 ppm
19 Copper ...................19.0736 27.2480 ppm
20 Iron ....................121.1029 173.0041 ppm
22 Manganese ..............28.5938 40.8482 ppm
24 Zinc ..........................4.9113 7.0162 ppm
54 Cobalt ........................1.3447 1.9210 mg/lb
55 Copper .......................8.6517 12.3596 mg/lb
56 Iron .........................54.9319 78.4741 mg/lb
58 Manganese ...............12.9701 18.5286 mg/lb
60 Zinc ...........................2.2278 3.1825 mg/lb
71 NFE ..........................56.6485 80.9264 %
72 TDN ..........................57.9455 82.7793 %
73 DE ..........................115.8865 165.5522 Mcal/cwt
74 ME ...........................95.0270 135.7528 Mcal/cwt
75 NE (Lact).................. 60.5858 86.5511 Mcal/cwt
76 NE (Maint) ................64.2443 91.7776 Mcal/cwt
77 NE (Gain) .................43.3861 61.9801 Mcal/cwt
114 Organic Matter % .....59.5095 85.0136 %
117 NSC/TNC % .............56.6485 80.9264 %
119 Digest Protein % ........0.0163 0.0233 %
134 Molasses Factor % ..95.3678 136.2398 %
135 % Cane .................95.3678 136.2398 %
137 % Front .................11.2727 16.1039 %
153 Tag Protein % ...........2.7752 3.9646 %
156................................0.4292 0.6131 %
157 Tag Phos % ...............0.0458 0.0654 %
158 Tag Moisture % .........30.9000 44.1429 %
159 Tag Sugars % ............44.8610 64.0872 %
160 Added Minerals % ........6.6757 9.5368 %
166 Sucrose % ...............35.4909 50.7013 %
176 NE (lac) Mcal/kg .....1.3357 1.9081 mcal/kg
177 NE (Main) Mcal/kg ....1.4163 2.0233 mcal/kg
178 NE (Gain) Mcal/kg .....0.9565 1.3664 mcal/kg
179 ME Dry Mcal/kg .........2.8516 4.0737 Mcal/kg
180 TDN Dry Basis% .............78.9448 112.7783 %
193 Brix 75.8174 .......................108.3106 Brix
194 OM Factor ........................0.1127 0.1610
195 Anion mEq/100g ..............82.9516 118.5022
196 Cation mEq/100g .............94.2515 134.6450
197 CAB mEq .........................11.2999 16.1428
199 Est Product RI .................69.4850 99.2643
201 Density .........................0.3860 0.5514 lbs/gal
202 Water Activity ................0.0463 0.0662 units
25 coins for 5 gallons (50 lbs/22.6 kg).
some of garden get only food+feed grade molasses. some get traditional gh fnb+floralicious bloom+kool boom. some get the combo of both. w/ 15ml/gal fnb - for those fictitious tomatoes
as the profile may suggest, it is very possible to use only a molasses combo for npk-ca-mg-s, etc. & nothing else... have done this for couple-few runs. incredible aromatics, reproductive gland production, and general vigor - in daydream...
the profile for food grade cane molasses:
wholesome sweeteners organic blackstrap molasses is here:
calculating npk/nutrient profile
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do not try consuming this stuff, unless you like non-sweet, pure nutrients. not made for humans. is bitter as dirt, stays on the palate long time. tried it; not pleasnat, but probably very nutritious...
hope this helps. enjoy your garden!
ask the company.cant someone get a lab test of boost? Or would that small quantity be too costly to even send
they should answer any/all questions & supply detailed analysis - especially if purchased, or may purchase product...
why buy product, & then request info on it? get info 1st...
some co.'s dont offer specifics; refuse to give details. depends.
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what does bottle say ingredients are?
enjoy your garden!
Canna are really proper people, on our side, I have met some of them, chatted and have total confidence in them and their products, no problems in 15 odd years.
Side by side tests are even better, the only true way to go forward, thanks to HL and everybody else for their contributions.
Scientific testing is the way to really learn, seat of the pants knowlege can help, but is B$ in comparison to a real test.
Side by side tests are even better, the only true way to go forward, thanks to HL and everybody else for their contributions.
Scientific testing is the way to really learn, seat of the pants knowlege can help, but is B$ in comparison to a real test.
darookie2000
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I don't think they will give this particular one up, it just says derived from "sugar cane" or "sugar beet". Apparently it's brewed for 6 months, so I'm not sure how the composition changes during that time.
none...
feed grade molasses in water... (or other wholly replicable solution, possibly including epsom salts; or more if want stronger tonic).
no need to wait 6 months... not knocking company for making coins, but fully doable w/ basic items.
no magic to be discovered...
feed grade molasses in water... (or other wholly replicable solution, possibly including epsom salts; or more if want stronger tonic).
no need to wait 6 months... not knocking company for making coins, but fully doable w/ basic items.
no magic to be discovered...
The overwhelming molasses sold in the US is 'sugar beet' molasses vs. 'sugar cane' molasses.
The USA hasn't grown any amount of 'sugar cane' for over 50 years. Sugar beets is the total deal.
And 'sugar beet' molasses can't POSSIBLY be 'sulphured' or 'unsulphured' given the manufacturing process involved.
HTH
CC
may want to look into the current ag crops of louisiana, texas, california, pennsylvania, hawaii & florida.
all produce lots of cane molasses.
there is also citrus & wood molasses, among others. basically, want the residue after boiling nutritious organic material. extract nutritional part. end.
enjoy your garden!
Laughable at best.
Thanks for sharing regardless.
Do your homework on what is considered 'Lots' outside of your 'opinion'
Are you in anyway involved in agriculture or are you simply waxing philosophically?
CC
