Big Clones.....and air layers.....

Ichabod Crane · Jul 19, 2015

In the above post you see that I slid the cap over the branch. After coating the stem I put one of the bottle halves into the cap and twisted it on to keep the bottle together. In this bottle half I put in coco coir packed it down and watered it.

In the above picture you can see that the lower half is twisted to the stake. You can also see that I slide the other bottle top over the bottom bottle top. Again I twisted the cap on to keep it tight.

I did two like this. One has no branch nodes and the other has two nodes. I dated and timed them so I can track their progress. So We will see If I can make this work.

Oh and both branches are 12 to 16 inches long.

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

Very nice IC....

I think in almost all cases They uses small volume air layers...commonly rapid rooters....

when they see roots they cut them....

I intend to give them much more space.....as you did to grow roots....

so when they are transplanted they dont skip a beat...

If you cut them too early you will have to keep them in a protected environment longer.....

IMO.... Im going to let the plant not only root on the mom....but veg some too.....

Mate Dave · Jul 20, 2015

Burnt Rope said:
I took a number of clones.....

when they rooted ..... I did some air layers.... now that all have rooted.....

they are largely the same size.....

I cant tell which are which.....

So Im having a hard time relating to what you are saying....

Got any pics?. It sounds like a good method to get short ones. You should document it.

Not sure it's commercially viable but i like it..

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

Oh and both branches are 12 to 16 inches long.

My intent....it to train these daughter branches on the mom long before they are air layers....

these early tests are simply to see how much vegetation can be on the air layer....

Ichabod Crane · Jul 20, 2015

My volume is about half the bottle so about 10 ounces or maybe a little less. I would say half of a beer cups volume.

Ichabod Crane · Jul 20, 2015

OK so I lied. I measured them both and one is 22 inches and the other is 23 inches long.

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

I wish my package was like that....

tell everyone its a 6...... and measure it...its 11........

Ichabod Crane · Jul 20, 2015

Well women say men cant judge length right.

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

Ichabod Crane said:
Well women say men cant judge length right.

IC..... could you monitor and measure the clone part of the air layer....

does it elongate....

does it continue to grow.....

For example...when you see roots and the roots fill your container..... is the clone still growing...... does it stop then start again......

Im a little unsure myself what happens....

Ichabod Crane · Jul 20, 2015

Sure I will do my best then to keep it logged.

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

Mate Dave said:
Got any pics?. It sounds like a good method to get short ones. You should document it.

Not sure it's commercially viable but i like it..

I had a new camera and my pics were too dark to be useful.....

Thats what the thread is for..... documenting air layering....

Ichabod Crane · Jul 20, 2015

So I took two sticks and marked one with one line and the other with two lines. I transferred these two marks onto the stem and placed the end of the stick at the branch tip. So if the branch grows it should show when I put the lines together because the tip of the stick and the tip of the branch will not line up.

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

FYI..... I now have a new id.....

was burnt rope....now BudleyDoRight...

MrBelvedere · Jul 20, 2015

BudleyDoRight said:
FYI..... I now have a new id.....

was burnt rope....now BudleyDoRight...

Welcome back to icmag BudleyDoRite, help us not be DudleyDoRite, keep the positive info going... :dance013:

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

Thanks..... this was my last id on overgrow..... back in those days...

MrBelvedere · Jul 20, 2015

BudleyDoRight said:
Thanks..... this was my last id on overgrow..... back in those days...

To quote stoned trout... "Ueehaeeyehawwww" keep this thread going pls. :tiphat:

Budley Doright · Jul 20, 2015

Keep it going???

I think there will be enough content in here eventually to make this a sticky....

ChasingGreen · Jul 21, 2015

As much as I don't like you due to your attitude and the unorganized way that you formulate your posts and poor grammer, I have to say, you get it about the light scraping. It's critical and speeds things up greatly!

stoned-trout · Jul 21, 2015

interesting thread.. like I said I did air layering in school and tried it and discounted it as unnessasary for my needs... but fun to watch others..never did give a shit about numbers..i grow what I want ..always did,, always will..rock on guys.....schools out fuck grammar class..!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. read my sig on how I feel..this aint about English,sentances,spelling..as long as I can understand its fine by me...this is a site about cannabis...theres lots here from other countries that aint English first language too...yeehaw..off fishing

Budley Doright · Jul 21, 2015

ChasingGreen said:
As much as I don't like you due to your attitude and the unorganized way that you formulate your posts and poor grammer, I have to say, you get it about the light scraping. It's critical and speeds things up greatly!

Im not doing light scraping.....

Im scarifying and wounding.....to expose the cambium layer......

That green line thats seen under the outer layer.......

You may get by with light scraping on a small clone.....but for a large hunk of plant.....much more is required....

from the internet...

Species difficult to root should be “wounded” as this helps encourage rooting. This involves making an additional light cut on either side of the cut stem at the base to expose more of the cambium.

The cambium is the light green layer you see under bark when you scrape it away, before you get to the wood, this is a single layer of meristem tissue. Wounding also helps in some cases to remove a physical barrier which may be getting in the way of roots forming.
You can scrape off the bark or outer layer to expose the cambium using a knife of the sharp edge of your scissors or secateurs.

Im not inventing anything new.... Im simply applying known horticulture techniques to cannabis......

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