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Old 04-12-2018, 02:14 AM #21
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Generally, I wouldn't expect much love from the world. Sometimes the inspiration that cannabis can bring, make's it seem the world should have love. It's in reality a cold, brainwashed, propagandized delusional world. Punished from someone Else's cold firm grip on the world.
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Old 04-12-2018, 03:05 AM #22
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Cannabis is completely different from all that other prescription pills because it is fat-soluble. It stores itself in fat cells, and then when you stop smoking, it is slowly released over the course of 2 to 4 weeks (sooner if the daily cannabis dose is very low, or if the metabolism is very high), and I don't know if this has been "proven" (double blind study?) or not, but I think it is this very slow rate of release by the fat cells which prevents any physical "withdrawal symptoms" but you might experience very vivid dreams as your body releases the molecules from the fat cells, and re-adjusts to the normal level of endo-cannabinoids which were always there anyway.

If the headaches came about after you stopped vaping, it could it be that there were impurities in the concentrate, you might want to switch to CO2-extracted products, and also make sure that the cannabis was extremely well-cared-for and not given an overdose of chemical nutrients and not flushed properly.

Vaping is relatively new, so the data has yet to be compiled, all that being said, I would just drink a lot of water, don't eat fast food, and don't drink alcohol as your body re-adjusts to its baseline levels of endo-cannabinoids.

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Old 04-12-2018, 03:15 AM #23
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I would be surprised if the op was not sincere. Everybody IS different and their metabolism is different. I've read many similar stories coming from people on sites that help people with withdrawal symtoms. There are many such stories and many people do have a difficult time when they stop using marijuana. This is not at all an unusual story.
I've never used nearly as much a day as you so I can't relate to that. I've always tried to be a moderate user .5 a gram to a gram a day with several days a week where I don't use at all so I don't build up a tolerance. I've had to stop using for a few weeks due to work requirements and I had some sleep and mood problems for a couple of weeks. I also miss it very much because I love it.
Best wishes to the OP and I hope you can get back to a point of moderate use and are able to enjoy it once again. Good luck.
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I have been using cannabis on and off...I really can't believe this is cannabis withdrawal.
What you are experiencing is very real and actually pretty common.
Crazy how people will try to minimize your reality based on their anecdotal experiences.
Not sure why they have to jump to extremes and compare to opiates.
Pretty pointless.

Common withdrawal symptoms:
Problems Sleeping
Anxiety
Weakness
Sweating
Restlessness
Dysphoria, a feeling of general unease or dissatisfaction
Craving for resumed cannabis use
Nausea
Stomach pain

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414724/

Sometimes can take a couple months to feel "normal" again.
Hang on, drink and eat well. Work up a sweat daily.
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What you are experiencing is very real and actually pretty common.
Crazy how people will try to minimize your reality based on their anecdotal experiences.
Not sure why they have to jump to extremes and compare to opiates.
Pretty pointless.

Common withdrawal symptoms:
Problems Sleeping
Anxiety
Weakness
Sweating
Restlessness
Dysphoria, a feeling of general unease or dissatisfaction
Craving for resumed cannabis use
Nausea
Stomach pain

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414724/

Sometimes can take a couple months to feel "normal" again.
Hang on, drink and eat well. Work up a sweat daily.
i have got to say i had a school friend that was exactly the same as OP described...he wouldn't need much...just a couple of days toking then when he stopped he copped it...if he kept smoking he was fine
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414724/

Sometimes can take a couple months to feel "normal" again.
Well your article says "return to normal functioning within 4 weeks of abstinence", so are you or your source incorrect? A couple weeks and a couple months are very different time frames and there is no other substance that has that kind of variability in the duration of withdrawal symptoms.
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There's some pretty harsh words in here for someone sharing their personal experiences.

Glad you're out and doing OK, 'hawk.

I had a former friend in the Yukon Territory 40 years ago who couldn't smoke pot/hash, as when he did, he had what he described as anxiety, and "1,000 racing thoughts in the time it took (him) to take a single step walking down the side-walk." Sounded like living Hell to me.

He was sincere, though his experience reminded me of much heavier drug experiences I'd had, and nothing matching my lengthy cannabis and hash history. None the less, I respected his issues, and stopped offering him a puff.

The 1999 Golden Anniversary Merck Manual cited a (approximately) 10% addiction rate in cannabis users, per their research/review of studies, though, admittedly, long gone are the days of differentiating between physical addiction and psychological addiction; there's BIG money in drug treatment and 'recovery,' much of which (though not all) I regard as snake oil and placebo outcomes related to 'mind over matter' results. Psychologically out-sourcing our own power and ability for our successes.

I'll add that the Merck Manual, in its time, when we were faced repeatedly with Government and others' hype and bullshit in our legalization efforts, was one of the more kind and fair-minded sources among the mainstream publications for us.

That outa' the way, it's been my understanding that for some/many chronic users of psycho-active canna products, sleep disruption (often lasting about 2 weeks or so) and some amount of irritability, can be outcomes during abstaining after an extended time using.

I suffer routine dyssomnia, so I wouldn't know. I'm up several times each night no matter what. Probably for the last 40-50 years or more.

OP, I hope your discomforts wane in the coming time ahead.

Some people die from peanut butter, nuts, and milk, too. But those items haven't typically been politicized and used to destroy persons' families and lives the way the Drug War has used cannabis, so when someone types, "Peanut butter nearly killed me," they don't get jumped all over and accused of dishonesty.

A little diplomacy, understanding and patience might save our species and planet..... Or not.
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Old 04-14-2018, 04:38 AM #28
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I have gone years without smoking cannabis or any other form. I think it's easy to get used to an easier life of being stoned. Having more fun, feeling more comfortable.

I understand the rage with the trend out there of sober nazis. There are people that think sobriety is for everyone and all that. Yet they tend to think loading up at he pharmacy is ok and somehow mainstream drugs are 'different'.

Fact is a ton of things are 'addictive'. We get addicted to people, things, way of life. We are attachment creatures.
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try getting some sleep.
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I've been on opiates for 8 years medical cannabis only thing that works 😊😊
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