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Old 09-24-2018, 06:45 AM #161
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Well,fucked up day of football.at least the Bears won and Brady got his ass kicked.NO ONE saw that coming!
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Well,fucked up day of football.at least the Bears won and Brady got his ass kicked.NO ONE saw that coming!
LOL!
I like underdogs Baba. It was cool watching the Browns win.

The Colts were at the Eagle 4 yard line with like minute left. Luck got sacked. The replacement LT did pretty good up until then then he folded. LOL!

They did battle the SB champs pretty good. Luck doesn't have the same zip on his balls. He had some floaters to the sidelines. They brought in Brisset to throw the hail Mary at the end of the game too. It is concerning.
I can't believe the Bills Vikings game. HOW?
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On german tv they were showing 49ers/Chiefs and Seahawks/Cowboys. I enkoyed them booth, very god games I think. I was cheering for the Seahawks. The comeback but not win of the 49ers was very good, respect. The Browns win the 1st. time for a long time. Interesting was also, that the kicker from the Vikings got kicked out of Team. He had it on his feet against Green Bay but failed 3 times in all and mostly at last.

Not so nice, I saw the movie with Will Smith as Doc, who found out the CTE sickness. If I remember right, if its gone bad, you can get kicks against the head, roundabout 70ooo times in a football career. Even 10ooo is to much, I think an ordinary guy has 50. I am 53 and had maybe 15-20, most of them as a kid (thre rest drunk in 85%). Make the story short, now I think about it if I see football and thats not good. As a parent in the states, I wouldn´t wish that my boy plays football.

What do you think, is the problem so bad or do I see to black?


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What do you think about that Baba? The FUCKING BEARS ARE FIRST IN OUR DIVISION! I'm not getting my hopes up Trubisky is gonna fuck this up.

And as much as I can really say,Clay Matthews did get fucked.i think the refs are making it up as they go along.wtf?
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It's neat and surprising that the bears are 1st in the NFC North, at 2-1. Vikings and Pack are 1-1-1, and Lions are 1-2. Still, the offense struggled to come up with points. I think the offense has scored only one TD each game, plus FG's. Not great. Reminds me of the urlacher days, where the defense had to carry the team. They had some good seasons then, despite that, but for great success trubisky is going to have to lead this team to some touchdowns. We'll see, although im not sure im seeing much improvement week to week either.

It's ironic that clay mathews is getting screwed over by the same rule that was implemented to protect his qb, aaron rodgers, who had his collarbone broken last year when a vikings player landed full force on him. Now, a dolphins lineman supposedly tore his acl trying to avoid putting all his weight on a QB sack. From the video, it did look like he kicked his leg out so he wouldnt land fully on the QB.
Ah well, at least david carr is safe, eh?

I havent yet seen that movie Herman, but that is a big concern for the league, all the head impacts that build up over years of practice and playing that really cause irreversible brain damage. Aaron hernandez, who murdered 3 people and was sentenced to life in prison, committed suicide in prison and the autopsy showed he had advanced CTE and he was like 28 years old. Maybe OJ Simpson's aberrant behavior can partially be blamed on brain damage.
Scientists are developing a test for CTE and if it works, it might really be bad for the game. A lot of players who get bad test results may say: "I like the competition, and making money, but i also like having a working brain."
If I had children, i probably wouldnt let them play the game, although i think the rules are changing for the better (less contact in practices, etc). But yeah, it could be a moral dilemma, watching people destroy their bodies to entertain us. I still enjoy the game, does that make me a bad person? Maybe at least uncaring...

Colts have been competitive in every game, against some good teams too, mostly due to a surprisingly good defense. They're far from a bottom 3 team like most 'experts' thought they would be, although that low ranking was dependent on if luck came all the way back. I havent watched them much if at all, but youre sure that his throws lack the velocity he used to have, Tarzan? I know his TD's are down and his turnovers are up, so evidently he's still a work in progress.
Peyton was still very effective when he lost some arm strength after his neck injury, just focused more on accuracy and throwing to spots. So there's hope that luck can still be elite again.
I thought they brought in brisset to throw the hail mary more to avoid luck taking a big hit on a low percentage play rather than concern that he couldnt throw it into the end zone. Luck's been throwing 40 yds in practices, he couldnt heave a 60 yd hail mary?

Rams beat the chargers by double digits, pop, and it wasnt close in the 2nd half. Every time the chargers scored the rams answered right back. If not for the rams losing their starting cornerbacks to injury the game might have been more lopsided. But derwin james had another nice game, had a pick in the end zone and a bunch of tackles, although he should have taken a knee in the end zone for a touchback instead of bringing it out to the 1 yard line. Mike williams is shaping up to be a nice, vincent-jackson type receiver, but keenan allen (and gronk and hogan of the pats) did hardly anything for me. I'm 0-3 in one fantasy league and 3-0 in the other. Eh, what ya gonna do?
Seattle’s championship window appears closed unless carroll can magic up another elite defense, which he might be able to given a year or two. Not sure why the seahawks would fire him, is there a surefire better coach waiting to step in and take his place? But I could see USC really wanting him back, they’ve cycled through various assistants of his without much success, if they come up with a massive offer like jimbo fisher got from Texas a&m (10 yrs, 75M) he could very well be tempted…
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I equate watching football or any other violent or combat sport (boxing, wrestling, mixed martial arts, etc) to the ancient romans watching gladiators in the coliseum. But instead of watching people chop each other up, we're watching people just beat up on each other.

Up until 5-10 years ago, big hits were celebrated in the NFL. The most violent hits made ESPN Sportscenter's Top 10 plays of the day. There was even a segment on an NFL show called "Jacked Up!", where they would show the most devastating hits in league history.

Poprocks mentioned Ronnie Lott before, he was a cornerback/safety who was famous for hitting opponents so hard they would immediately stop and fall backwards, even if they were running full speed ahead at the time. There was a player called "Night train" Lane 30-40 years ago who would clothesline opponents, just swing his arm like a club and hit them around their head and neck area. The league made that move illegal because he hurt so many players with it.

There are also a lot of variables that factor into brain damage and CTE. A lot of former players are announcers or tv analysts, and they seem healthy and capable, even the ones who retired because of concussions (steve young, merril hoge). Also, a substantial number of players abuse alcohol and drugs during and after their playing careers so that plays a role in their brain function. A lot of the substance abuse may be self-medicating, they're used to taking a lot of painkillers so they can play and practice. That practice is slowly going away over the last few years, at least with opiate abuse, but plenty of players will take a shot of toradol (a post-surgical pain killer) before games so they can play pain-free.

So I dont think you can say that every player will definitely suffer severe brain damage during their career, although there is a signficant chance. And i do think the sport is getting better at protecting players with rule changes, and hopefully in the future you wont see so many players suffering after they retire. And maybe technological advances (better helmets or padding) or medical advances (alzheimer's research, etc) will help solve this problem. We'll see.



But i do think the violence of the sport is part of the reason why it's so popular. Why do people watch MMA or boxing? To watch some guy get knocked the heck out. And that's terribly unhealthy for the person to suffer that, but that's what makes it so interesting, the stakes are so high, it's almost like 2 guys fighting for their lives...
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happening guys, hope everyone is enjoying the start to the new season
the chiefs are putting up a ton of points behind the young gunslinger, pat mahomes and an offense stacked with tallent
i havent been following the fins that closely this season , but they are one of the last undefeated teams left at 3-0

were you able to watch the rams/ chargers game, baba?
it was a good game but the rams seemed to be in the drivers seat early on and never let up
they moved the ball at will on offense and the defense was rock solid
i dont blame d. james for trying to advance the ball on that int in the endzone, his momentum was going forward and he was playing fast
the chargers made their share of mistakes and i think the rams offense was in a groove
i like the way josh allen is starting out in buffalo
if they could get their offensive line in order they could have a decent offense
so how are you digging on kalil macks play so far this season?
he is wreaking havoc against opposing teams with a consistent mix of power and speed and will hopefully have a long productive career in chicago
/on the flip side, how would you grade grudens return the coaching in oakland so far?

i was able to watch the chiefs/49ers game on sunday too herman
what time was the game on in germany, brother?
it looks like garapollo will be out the remainder of the season with a acl injury

rams/vikings tongiht!
the vikings could really use a win here but they are going up against one of the hottest teams in the league right now
im hoping for a good game on both sides
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I was watching the red zone channel on my pc so they showed all the big plays from the rams-chargers game. I was also watching bears-cardinals on my tv, so i missed the derwin pick. I didnt realize he was moving forward at the time so his momentum carried him out of the end zone; i just knew that after the chargers went 3 and out on the ensuing possession, they had to punt out of the back of their end zone and the rams blocked it and recovered it for a score. A great play turned into a bad result, but you cant blame it on d. james, he saved a TD it was the offense and special teams that gave it right back. Im just glad he's racking up big plays (int's, forced fumbles, sacks) in addition to plenty of tackles for my fantasy team...

And in the 4th quarter, i think the chargers went for it on 4th down multiple times but could never get the game closer than 2 scores, rams D was just too good.

Speaking of which, the rams gave up a bunch up a bunch of yards and pts to the vikings but the vikings defense was even worse. Goff had over 400yds and 5 TDs and a perfect passer rating. Im pretty impressed with him, he was dropping the ball perfectly into his receiver's hands all night.

I thought trubisky could make a similar leap to goff's 2017 season, with new and better receivers and a new, offensive minded coach. But he hasnt looked good all year except for maybe one drive a game. He still hasnt thrown for 10 tds after 15 starts in his career.

I have to keep reminding myself that he's still very inexperienced and he's learning a complex new offense. He started 13 games in college and 15 in the nfl (12 last year), that's 28 games. Most college star qb's play almost twice that many games in their career, assuming they start 3 years at 13-14 games a year (including bowl games).

That was one of the concerns about trubs coming out of college, the fact he played so few games. One of the best indicators of success in the nfl for qb's is how many starts they had in college, and most of the top guys became starters in their freshman or sophmore years.

the bears are playing a bad tampa bay defense, if they struggle to score against them it may be time to start panicking?


khalil is the truth, Pop, I just hope he doesnt blow his load in september; if the bears are lucky enough to make the playoffs he's going to need to have some game changing plays then too if they want to make a run.

Will he have a long career in chicago? Im not sure; the team can get out of his current 6 year deal after 4 years if his play doesnt justify the price tag anymore. He'll be 31 in 4years but i think d linemen can be productive into their mid 30's barring major injury. I guess whether he's with the team until retirement depends on his level of play and how greedy his agent is.



Josh allen and the bills have outscored opponents 41-9 since vontae davis retired at halftime of the chargers game (6 quarters of play). When vontae did that i was like ah man, the bills are so bad their players are quitting at halftime, but man the defense has been good and josh is making plays with his arm and his legs; he hurdled a 6'3" linebacker vs the vikings to pick up a first down. Everyone knew he was probably the best physical specimen of the first round qb's in this draft class but he's looking like cam newton with hops. Which is funny because i dont think he ran much in college.



Niners suffered a big blow with garappolo's acl tear. The team's play was pretty uneven before then, now at 1-2 with cj beathard at QB maybe they're looking forward to another top draft pick? Which sucks for this year but may turn out good in the long run...
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