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Old 02-10-2019, 07:05 PM #121
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I have to admit, now that I've transitioned entirely out of combustion, the quality of high that I consistently get is far nicer than when I smoked. I remember a lot of the time, when smoking, how that horrible ash taste towards the end of the bowl can really linger, acting a bit like a buzz kill. Or when your inhale a little ember? Prevents enjoying the high sometimes. But vaping tastes great all the way to the end. It gets a little toastier by that last puff, but it's never a buzz kill. Also, I get the euphoria regularly. The body tingles and stuff. Vaping brings that out to the fore front

Just want to encourage some of you who want to make vaping work for you. It's worth it. Keep trying.
Yassir! It is all a mind set. That being said... not all vaporizers are created equal. I will go out of my way to patronize a store that have demonstrated that they "listen" to their customers. One size does not fit all.
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:16 PM #122
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Vaping flowers or concentrate compares favorably to smoking outside.
If it's about finding a cigarette/"joint" substitute then it shall be necessary to accept that only toxic SMOKE offers the characteristic smell, hence this may be perceived as a severe limitation in such type of hobby, while in crowded situations it actually becomes a most valuable feature: e.g. relative stealthy odor neutrality.

These days i can toke all day long and never feel concerned when i open my door to strangers, the same wouldn't apply if i hadn't quit smoking definitively over a decade ago. As a matter of fact the last time i allowed a visitor to smoke under my kitchen's extractor hood above the stove it became necessary to ventilate generously for hours...

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Edibles or canna caps might be best for a steady maintenance dose.
Honestly that's a totally different experience unless it happens to share a common finality, while all other considerations turn accessorial IMO. Inhalation has characteristics with no equivalent, not to mention the hobby and associated ritual itself; alternatives may even prove unsatisfactory to ex-smokers consequently. Otherwise why not include "medicating" anal plugs as i recall such means of cannabic absorption is by-passing filter organs... Yet that's hardly reminescent of my present consumption method & ritual somehow!



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...get away from combustion...
Be careful what you wish for, doing so causes ex-smokers to abstain from taking benefit from the addition of "Potentializing" factors to their "Release/Transport Agent", briefly put lets not under-estimate the benefits of extra-hot exhaust gases, though not as clean as those from burning butane and not even vaporized e-liquid substrates... Hence that's one good reminder to insist making a clear distinction between vaporizers and vapes or e-Cigs.

At that point it should seem somewhat more obvious why those 3 consumption methods classify on my VILIFICATION scale in this precise order, with worse on top:
  • SMOKED cigarette/"joint"
  • e-Cig/e-Liquid
  • Selected vaporizer
In comparison popular "Hot Dry Air Ovenizers" with a characteristic specific heat capacity of unity just lack a "Potentializing" agent, while steam is twice dry air, meaning if we consider the minute amounts involved then the overall average rise in Vaporizers or e-Cigs may range inbetween those 2 limits, more like around a 20 ~ 30 % boost perhaps. All i know positively is that it IS a boost IMO, and i'd say THAT is one major feature present in SMOKING as well: e.g. "Potentialization" of the "Release/Transport Agent" exactly.

One other similitude that feels more compatible for substitution purposes would be related to "1-Hitter" consumption modes and rituals. Cigarettes/"joints" get consumed in pulses, essentially... While the venerable Volcano/Arizer and siblings condemn their paying victims to suck long and hard for minutes, or the "baking" which takes place between each inhalation shall cause even more Self-Vilification where none is welcome. M'well, unless the user may be willing to exchange eventual purist principles for a "CHEAT" boost effect fueled by vegetal substrate substances instead of sacred trichome glands alone (ideally...): all of it in days when the economic environment appears to demand conservative rationality, paradoxically...

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I still submit that the best vaping solution is to squish the flower into rosin and do low-temp dabs. Best flavor, best high, and most discreet.

For portability, I like the MIG Brain Fogger atomizer (under $40) running at about 10W. A pea-sized rosin dab can give you a bunch of very flavorful hits and it's really easy to control (and maintain) the perfect level of "high"
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I bought vapo, and im not using it, i preffer bong with ice and water than vaporizer even if its not that healthy...
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new study on Storz & Bickel Volcano - about 1/3rd more efficient at getting cannabinoids into your bloodstream than smoking:

https://academic.oup.com/jat/advance...bky104/5274655

>>Vaporization appears to be a more efficient method of delivery compared with smoking.
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Image could be better. Flowermate V5.0S, silicone tubing, glass water pipe and masking tape.


The trick is to inhale slowly over 15-20 seconds for thick vapor minimizing hot air volume.
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Oh, please!...

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For the vaporized cannabis sessions, the Volcano Medic® (Storz and Bickel, Oakland, CA) was used to heat and aerosolize cannabis at a temperature of 204°C (400°F).

And now this, the portable version i guess...
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Volcano hasn't come down from $400-500 price point in over ten years?!?


0.2-0.3 grams at a time is ok, what is a reasonable herb "thc" dosage, 1 gram vaporized once or twice per day? I think 0.5 gram or 5+ grams per day is ok (perhaps assisted with capsules tinctures etc) it just depends on the person. Measuring the harmful amount isn't really a moral experiment, rather people granted freedom to use at their own discretion can be observed.


Dabbing a gram or more of bho in one hit from a hot nail might be harmful, but nowhere near in the same way or severity as crack cocaine. The potential harm from the former is comparatively skating without elbow pads compared to being run over by a bus with the latter.


Citing a dose is reasonably weird with cannabis, I have a fair understanding of it myself I believe in terms of vaping or blood concentration, however the way a joint runs and continues to burn in between hits combined with technique can contribute to varying transfer efficiency thc in flower -> user ratio to thc in flower -> atmosphere or possible reduction in efficiency from combustion.

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