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Inside Out Trees, Silo Op, custom RDWC, water cooled
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Ttystikk
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Smells like Super Lemon Haze, sharp and tangy!
Do your roots turn into a 5gal solid mass? Mine didn't, was wondering if any of yours got that big. Mine looked comparable to what I see in the pic....
Nice roots man!
Red eyed reality!
Ttystikk
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Do your roots turn into a 5gal solid mass? Mine didn't, was wondering if any of yours got that big. Mine looked comparable to what I see in the pic....
Nice roots man!
Red eyed reality!
The roots reside in a 27 gallon tuffbox throughout bloom. The orange bit of bucket you see in the pic is just the top spacer part, I use it to give the netpot bucket lid a solid place to sit to keep out dry air and light. The roots float in the nutrient solution the whole time and end up looking like that when they come out. I'm hoping for even more impressive root balls from some bigger plants I have going right now- that particular individual only came out to half an elbow.
Not bad at all!
Ttystikk
Member
Starting from the beginning, I'm giving each of the veg stages more room and more light. This won't solve the lack of headroom in the veg tent, so instead of just making the final prebloom stage bigger, I'll just convert it into a Super Silo stage. This will give the plants up to two weeks on the trellis to fill it in before flip. This will solve the problem of plants not filling in their trellis, methinks.
sahdgrower
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just curious why you wouldn't just keep the same veg and add 1 plant to each silo?
Ttystikk
Member
My aim is to fully cover the 25 ft² trellis with one plant. Therefore, adding plants would add diameter to the silo.
I understand what you're driving at, which is to use more, smaller plants to achieve the same coverage. I'm trying to stay modular with standard size trellis, but of course you can use smaller plants.
At six feet tall, how much narrower does it make sense to be than four feet though?
Ttystikk
Member
I've been chatting with a buddy who is good at process design and automation.
Having bitten at the automation apple, I've realized that it was a bigger bite than I could swallow by myself.
So far, the schedules I've built on an ad hoc basis are serving as a very good foundation for understanding both process and data.
From here, we can develop a monitoring/control/automaton scheme that accurately records the needed data in real time and uses it to maintain preset parameters, according to a program that could even change through time.
Better operational control and a much more complete picture of what's actually happening to my plants daily and over time is just around the corner!
Having bitten at the automation apple, I've realized that it was a bigger bite than I could swallow by myself.
So far, the schedules I've built on an ad hoc basis are serving as a very good foundation for understanding both process and data.
From here, we can develop a monitoring/control/automaton scheme that accurately records the needed data in real time and uses it to maintain preset parameters, according to a program that could even change through time.
Better operational control and a much more complete picture of what's actually happening to my plants daily and over time is just around the corner!
Ttystikk
Member
Having identified the root of the problem as a veg space that's too small, I'm about halfway thru a revamp of my veg space, plus changing things up so they can spend a week or so on the vertical trellis before flip.
The aim is for the plants to more fully fill in their trellis. Then maybe I won't be so damn shy about thinning the back (near) side of the plant to reduce larf!
I bet using these two techniques together will lead to better quality AND yield. We shall see, the girls always get the last word.
The aim is for the plants to more fully fill in their trellis. Then maybe I won't be so damn shy about thinning the back (near) side of the plant to reduce larf!
I bet using these two techniques together will lead to better quality AND yield. We shall see, the girls always get the last word.
Ttystikk
Member
Got pix. Cool is another story...
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Ttystikk
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So the comprehensive veg zone rebuild plan looks like this;
0. Clones, either in rapid rooters or aerocloner.
1. Rooters get potted into 4" square pots, in a 1'x3' ebb n flood table under 2 bulb by 4' t8 shoplight, maybe add another shoplight.
2. Youngsters potted up to 8" netpot bucket lid and placed in a 3'x3' ebb n flood table. I need to build a lid for them to rest in so the bottoms of the netpots aren't sitting on the table-which of course inhibits the roots I'm trying to grow! Lighting will be some combination of t5 and/or a 130W LED. Or maybe 400W HPS.
3. RDWC built from 4 gallon square buckets to fit in tight spaces, plants will be in a space of as yet unspecified size. I'm considering using one HPS thouie, but I need to have even lighting. These will be encouraged to keep growing tall, NO TOPPING.
4. Instead of a final prebloom stage, just put them into the silo two weeks early; gives them a chance to grow in and fill it up before flip.
Thoughts?
0. Clones, either in rapid rooters or aerocloner.
1. Rooters get potted into 4" square pots, in a 1'x3' ebb n flood table under 2 bulb by 4' t8 shoplight, maybe add another shoplight.
2. Youngsters potted up to 8" netpot bucket lid and placed in a 3'x3' ebb n flood table. I need to build a lid for them to rest in so the bottoms of the netpots aren't sitting on the table-which of course inhibits the roots I'm trying to grow! Lighting will be some combination of t5 and/or a 130W LED. Or maybe 400W HPS.
3. RDWC built from 4 gallon square buckets to fit in tight spaces, plants will be in a space of as yet unspecified size. I'm considering using one HPS thouie, but I need to have even lighting. These will be encouraged to keep growing tall, NO TOPPING.
4. Instead of a final prebloom stage, just put them into the silo two weeks early; gives them a chance to grow in and fill it up before flip.
Thoughts?
Ttystikk
Member
Every stage runs two weeks.
