keep your eyes on this guy....
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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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Frylock
You know Elon Musk is not in denial about the effects us little humans are having on climate?
Maybe you can talk some sense into him?
St. Phatty
Active member
Sounds like coal is better for industrial operations - as long as they take the trouble to control the dust (for workers) and filter the emissions.
I think Brazil has a good solution - run your cars on Alcohol. Made from Sugar Cane.
I've been reading up on villages in Mongolia etc. They tend to rely on wood, and the villages are so smokey it's not healthy for kids to play outside.
I think that's an example of where "socialism" is good. I mean the townspeople in a village of 2000 people for example. Simply pooling their resources to move their energy source from their individual fire-places, to a facility 1 or 2 miles away.
part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53DhhSCKSE
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ThunderboltsProject
Published on May 17, 2019
In recent years, one of the great shocks in space science has been the discovery of just how incredible the electromagnetic energies are at the gas giant Jupiter. Astronomers had long known that Jupiter possesses an extensive and powerful magnetic field, as well as tremendous x-ray aurorae, super-fast winds, and a mysterious, enduring anticyclonic storm in the region called the Great Red Spot. However, NASA’s Juno mission has shattered all conventional ideas about the mechanisms behind these phenomena. Today, in part two of his ten-part series Eye of the Storm, author Andrew Hall explores the question, what can the electrical Jovian environment tell us about the atmospheric and weather phenomena throughout the solar system, including on Earth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53DhhSCKSE
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ThunderboltsProject Published on May 17, 2019
In recent years, one of the great shocks in space science has been the discovery of just how incredible the electromagnetic energies are at the gas giant Jupiter. Astronomers had long known that Jupiter possesses an extensive and powerful magnetic field, as well as tremendous x-ray aurorae, super-fast winds, and a mysterious, enduring anticyclonic storm in the region called the Great Red Spot. However, NASA’s Juno mission has shattered all conventional ideas about the mechanisms behind these phenomena. Today, in part two of his ten-part series Eye of the Storm, author Andrew Hall explores the question, what can the electrical Jovian environment tell us about the atmospheric and weather phenomena throughout the solar system, including on Earth?
i wish i could. you do know musk is just the face?...and if he is blaming the CO2, he is in denial. are you aware that his electric vehicles have a similar carbon footprint than combustion engines aka gasoline?
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/electric-cars-co2-emissions-global-warming/
"The report — authored by Michael Sivak and Brandon Schoettle — notes that an electric car recharged by a coal-fired plant produces as much CO2 as a gasoline-powered car that gets 29 miles per gallon. (For context, the average mpg of all the cars, SUVs, vans and light trucks sold in the U.S. over the past year is 25.2 mpg.) A plug-in recharged by a natural gas-powered plant is like driving a car that gets 58 miles per gallon."
https://www.umich.edu/~umtriswt/PDF/SWT-2017-18_Abstract_English.pdf
i don't deny that humans are soiling their habitat....what i am denying is that CO2 is the culprit in temperature increase, oh, and by the way, what warming? any warming must be offset by cooling somewhere else.
sneer and scoff away, it seems that is all you have. you haven't disproved my contention, you're just repeating the FrockedLie...
i'll bite...why does something heating up mean that there is cooling elsewhere? when my oven heats up, my kitchen does NOT get cooler. nor does anywhere else in the house. nor my yard. where is it cooling? sneering & scoffing is fun. some targets are easier than others. it's not my job to disprove anything, and merely because you don't believe something does not make it any sort of lie. (the reverse, obviously, is also true.
) now, back to scoffing...
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Frylock
...and if he is blaming the CO2, he is in denial. are you aware that his electric vehicles have a similar carbon footprint than combustion engines aka gasoline?
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/electric-cars-co2-emissions-global-warming/
"The report — authored by Michael Sivak and Brandon Schoettle — notes that an electric car recharged by a coal-fired plant produces as much CO2 as a gasoline-powered car that gets 29 miles per gallon. (For context, the average mpg of all the cars, SUVs, vans and light trucks sold in the U.S. over the past year is 25.2 mpg.) A plug-in recharged by a natural gas-powered plant is like driving a car that gets 58 miles per gallon."
https://www.umich.edu/~umtriswt/PDF/SWT-2017-18_Abstract_English.pdf
i don't deny that humans are soiling their habitat....what i am denying is that CO2 is the culprit in temperature increase, oh, and by the way, what warming? any warming must be offset by cooling somewhere else.
sneer and scoff away, it seems that is all you have. you haven't disproved my contention, you're just repeating the FrockedLie...
You want to feel important.... i get it....
thermodynamics.i'll bite...why does something heating up mean that there is cooling elsewhere? when my oven heats up, my kitchen does NOT get cooler. nor does anywhere else in the house. nor my yard. where is it cooling? sneering & scoffing is fun. some targets are easier than others. it's not my job to disprove anything, and merely because you don't believe something does not make it any sort of lie. (the reverse, obviously, is also true.) now, back to scoffing...
Let there be Motion
There is motion. Our climate is an expression of that motion, all of which is caused by the planet's energy steady state. Actually, the motion is due to both vertical and horizontal energy gradients in the atmosphere and oceans. The Earth traps most of its energy at the land-ocean surface, so that the atmosphere is heated from below, and the oceans are warmed from above. Besides that, the surface heating is uneven. Much more heat is absorbed at low than at high latitudes. This is because the Earth's surface gradually tilts away from the sun (the sun is lower on the horizon) as you move away from the equator. That tilting spreads the solar energy supply over progressively larger areas of ground or ocean surface, so that each square meter gets less and less heat as you head poleward. At low latitudes the Earth's surface actually absorbs more energy that its upper atmosphere emits to space (an energy surplus) while at high latitudes the reverse is true (an energy deficit). This is because the latitudinal temperature gradient in the upper troposphere is less than the temperature gradient at the surface.
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Earth's temperature doesn't infinitely rise because the surface and the atmosphere are simultaneously radiating heat to space. This net flow of energy into and out of the Earth system is Earth's energy budget. The energy that Earth receives from sunlight is balanced by an equal amount of energy radiating into space.
...and you just want to look foolish.
you don't get it, and i get that.
it isn't easy to visualize even with cliff notes...
hey! trichrider insulted me, doesn't he know who i am?
pfffft
none of this is making me any more important. i accept i am not important. not liking me doesn't change the information i provide. get over yourself.
you went to the trouble of typing all of that, and did not say why/where this "cooling" is happening. yeah, i saw that you typed "thermodynamics". if it is colder than usual anyplace, i would sure like to know where... otherwise, i'm sticking with "it is getting hotter earlier, lasting longer, and reading your graphs/charts etc does not mean diddly-squat." this is known as obfuscation, muddying the water in an attempt to confuse. "baffle them with bullshit" is another term that appears to fit the situation... i'm going to go along with Bill Nye the science guy on youtube -" the fucking world is on fire, people!"
St. Phatty
Active member
"thermodynamics".
a decent word ~
"The branch of physical science that deals with the relations between heat and other forms of energy (such as mechanical, electrical, or chemical energy), and, by extension, of the relationships between all forms of energy."
lets do a little talking about current weather
you know, the nasty ass shit they've been getting in the midwest
tornadoes, flooding and so on
there has been some cooler air coming in there from the arctic
the flip side? warmer air hitting the arctic and leaving its mark
not new, just getting more extreme
alaska been looking pretty nice these days, of course warmer up there feeds the bugs they have
maybe not a win win deal
anyhow, check out the arctic with real data and real imagery
northwest passage looks like it will open this year, kind of looking like a record northwest passage kind of year
we're not at record lows at the moment, but very close, it's melting and melting and ...
you know, the nasty ass shit they've been getting in the midwest
tornadoes, flooding and so on
there has been some cooler air coming in there from the arctic
the flip side? warmer air hitting the arctic and leaving its mark
not new, just getting more extreme
alaska been looking pretty nice these days, of course warmer up there feeds the bugs they have
maybe not a win win deal
anyhow, check out the arctic with real data and real imagery
northwest passage looks like it will open this year, kind of looking like a record northwest passage kind of year
we're not at record lows at the moment, but very close, it's melting and melting and ...
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St. Phatty
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When I talk with people about the weather, they sometimes say, "I hear Alaska is getting pretty nice. It's like Oregon used to be."
I am hearing about Alaska, how they always used the frozen fresh water rivers as roads, in the winter.
But now ... not so much.
I would not want to be in a position to drive a Jeep into 10 feet of icey slush. Even if it is warmer icey slush.
How will they get around in Alaska when the winter roads go ? Snowmobiles ? Sled dogs.
M
moose eater
I'll bite.... I've finished putting my dry rub on 4 full racks of some decent baby back ribs and a pork shoulder butt roast, to toss in the smoker tomorrow.. Yes, I know... Increasing my carbon foot-print for clearly selfish reasons.. 
Ice roads aren't as common up here as some might think. There are ice roads, but they pale in contrasting numbers to highways, dirt trails, snowmobile trails that cross larger and smaller areas, etc.
Folks I know already motate much of the winter on snow-gos for those of us who head into or live in the bush, and won't or can't afford to charter aircraft on a steady basis. Though some get tired of crossing large areas over tussocks, ruts, berms, etc., and the rock-n-roll stress placed on the shoulders, neck arms, etc.,., eventually making fewer trips and flying more often each year. A trade-off as the body ages.
Yes, 'over-flow' (the water flowing or pooling atop the ice, for a variety of reasons, mixing with the lower or mid-layers of snow, and becoming the pain in the ass that it is) is (in my opinion) on the increase. Nothing screams "Son of a BITCGH!!" like seeing your skid full of hardening slush, knowing it now has an extra 200 lbs. (+/-) of what will soon seize up your machine altogether if left over-night... short of a very warm wind coming in.
I believe the transition from using the term 'global warming,' to using the term 'climate change,' has to do with multiple directions in our weather changes, depending on season, region, and so forth.
While Alaska is indeed warming overall, and our winters are warmer, the summers where I am are cooler and more damp..
Yesterday, while not a total anomaly, for the first time I can recall (though I didn't always have a television) the Local Powers that Be interrupted what ever brain-dead programming was airing at that time, to inform viewers that we were going to have a 1/2-hour formal Thunderstorm Warning, from a specific time period to a specific ending time, and to go to the lowest level in our homes.. HUH????!! (Thinking to myself, "this is new.")
They were warning of hail the size of quarters (.25 cent pieces). I got a slew of hail the size of .177 pellets, but that was it.
On my son's way home he encountered a fellow on a motorcycle, who'd left the road and was hunkered down under a spruce tree, avoiding the onslaught of what must've felt like a kazillion BBs hitting him; I've ridden motorcycles through similar in NW Alberta years ago).
But we got rain and plenty of wind yesterday. Rain like the proverbial cow pissing on a flat rock. My shower would've been less wet, at full pressure. And it all lasted almost precisely as long in duration as NOAA and their lackeys had said it would. Wow... accurate weather reports!!!
We're supposedly an Arctic Dessert by classification in places in the Interior, and the last bunch of years the Interior (Alaska has about 9 sub-climates) has been wetter and cooler for the bulk of the summer, with our late-summer monsoons coming earlier and earlier now, though a couple years in a row, we reached 80 degrees f. in late April!!
This year, as posted earlier, my friend at 1,500 ft. in the Alaska Range phoned on March 30 and had butterflies and bumble bees in his yard. NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
We're colder than Eastern Oregon here in the interior, over all, and our South Central Coast, and Southwest Coast are colder than Portland or Eugene areas, but we're warmer than we once were, too.
Our ice, here, and in Canada's Yukon Territory, depending on region, often comes later in the Fall, leaves a bit earlier in the Spring, and is gradually slightly thinner in later winter than it once was.
As far as moving here, thanks to legislative corruption, oil company corruption, Citizens United, and other factors, Alaska is in a financial nose-dive, and has been living off of Her savings for a number of years now.
So come if you want, but the days of the streets being lined with gold nuggets and diamonds are way in the rear-view. From here on out, it'll gradually consist of military folks, other government folks, contract labor from Outside for the Oil Patches, and folks who -really- want to be here for the sake of being here.
We're into a period of negative population growth, and the last time this occurred in current fashion was in 1986, when we had FAR more oil to bounce back on. It was in 1986 that a comedic-minded person spray-painted on the back of the Glenallen Community sign, "Would the last person out please turn the lights off."
Ice roads aren't as common up here as some might think. There are ice roads, but they pale in contrasting numbers to highways, dirt trails, snowmobile trails that cross larger and smaller areas, etc.
Folks I know already motate much of the winter on snow-gos for those of us who head into or live in the bush, and won't or can't afford to charter aircraft on a steady basis. Though some get tired of crossing large areas over tussocks, ruts, berms, etc., and the rock-n-roll stress placed on the shoulders, neck arms, etc.,., eventually making fewer trips and flying more often each year. A trade-off as the body ages.
Yes, 'over-flow' (the water flowing or pooling atop the ice, for a variety of reasons, mixing with the lower or mid-layers of snow, and becoming the pain in the ass that it is) is (in my opinion) on the increase. Nothing screams "Son of a BITCGH!!" like seeing your skid full of hardening slush, knowing it now has an extra 200 lbs. (+/-) of what will soon seize up your machine altogether if left over-night... short of a very warm wind coming in.
I believe the transition from using the term 'global warming,' to using the term 'climate change,' has to do with multiple directions in our weather changes, depending on season, region, and so forth.
While Alaska is indeed warming overall, and our winters are warmer, the summers where I am are cooler and more damp..
Yesterday, while not a total anomaly, for the first time I can recall (though I didn't always have a television) the Local Powers that Be interrupted what ever brain-dead programming was airing at that time, to inform viewers that we were going to have a 1/2-hour formal Thunderstorm Warning, from a specific time period to a specific ending time, and to go to the lowest level in our homes.. HUH????!! (Thinking to myself, "this is new.")
They were warning of hail the size of quarters (.25 cent pieces). I got a slew of hail the size of .177 pellets, but that was it.
On my son's way home he encountered a fellow on a motorcycle, who'd left the road and was hunkered down under a spruce tree, avoiding the onslaught of what must've felt like a kazillion BBs hitting him; I've ridden motorcycles through similar in NW Alberta years ago).
But we got rain and plenty of wind yesterday. Rain like the proverbial cow pissing on a flat rock. My shower would've been less wet, at full pressure. And it all lasted almost precisely as long in duration as NOAA and their lackeys had said it would. Wow... accurate weather reports!!!
We're supposedly an Arctic Dessert by classification in places in the Interior, and the last bunch of years the Interior (Alaska has about 9 sub-climates) has been wetter and cooler for the bulk of the summer, with our late-summer monsoons coming earlier and earlier now, though a couple years in a row, we reached 80 degrees f. in late April!!
This year, as posted earlier, my friend at 1,500 ft. in the Alaska Range phoned on March 30 and had butterflies and bumble bees in his yard. NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
We're colder than Eastern Oregon here in the interior, over all, and our South Central Coast, and Southwest Coast are colder than Portland or Eugene areas, but we're warmer than we once were, too.
Our ice, here, and in Canada's Yukon Territory, depending on region, often comes later in the Fall, leaves a bit earlier in the Spring, and is gradually slightly thinner in later winter than it once was.
As far as moving here, thanks to legislative corruption, oil company corruption, Citizens United, and other factors, Alaska is in a financial nose-dive, and has been living off of Her savings for a number of years now.
So come if you want, but the days of the streets being lined with gold nuggets and diamonds are way in the rear-view. From here on out, it'll gradually consist of military folks, other government folks, contract labor from Outside for the Oil Patches, and folks who -really- want to be here for the sake of being here.
We're into a period of negative population growth, and the last time this occurred in current fashion was in 1986, when we had FAR more oil to bounce back on. It was in 1986 that a comedic-minded person spray-painted on the back of the Glenallen Community sign, "Would the last person out please turn the lights off."
St. Phatty
Active member
I'll bite.... I've finished putting my dry rub on 4 full racks of some decent baby back ribs and a pork shoulder butt roast, to toss in the smoker tomorrow.. Yes, I know... Increasing my carbon foot-print for clearly selfish reasons..
We're into a period of negative population growth, and the last time this occurred in current fashion was in 1986, when we had FAR more oil to bounce back on. It was in 1986 that a comedic-minded person spray-painted on the back of the Glenallen Community sign, "Would the last person out please turn the lights off."
Well it sounds like you're prepared for the MUNCHIES big time
and it's not like you need pot to get the munchies.
How do people grow pot in Alaska, besides indoors ? Well, maybe it's not hopeless - Anchorage is 60 degrees.
Looks like you might get 3 or 4 months of solid sun. But the day length goes from super long days to shorter.
Can you grow outdoors in AK without using Auto's ? Or a specialized greenhouse with light dep AND extra lights.
M
moose eater
Ruderalis crosses have been around for years, though not everyone's cup of tea, and few got into them. I have an old kodachrome 35 mm film canister with a Sativa-Ruderalis cross from the Copper River Basin that I was gifted years ago, & never had much interest in popping any of, though others tried and by the time they did, they had dismal results (tho' mostly due to their lack of knowledge on process, etc.).
Most folks grew/grow photo-period strains, for decades now.
Many tales I'll spare band-width by not telling in detail, including one that old-timers might remember from the Wasilla area in the later 70s, and a fellow more commonly referred to as 'Crazy Mike,' who also spent time up near Tok Jct. During the hey-day of the 1975 Ravin Decision, he'd had a couple of larger greenhouses in full bloom, right up near the Parks Hwy in Wasilla.... ended in severe law-enforcement comedy, with few serious 'hits, runs, or errors' in the end. But MAJOR comedy.
Yes, you can grow outside in Alaska. The warmer climates are best, but you're correct; there's a relatively short growing season.
Re. Anchorage and similar coastal Alaskan climates, remember the power of large bodies of water where temperature and climate are concerned. The N. Pacific and Bering moderate both winter and summer temps in such places. Notably cooler summers and warmer winters, in contrast to the Interior.
But folks grew outside in greenhouses in Wasilla, which is only slightly inland (and every place else up here), in the later 70s, back when Wasilla had one blinking yellow caution light, and less than 25% of the strip malls, Baptists, & thieves they have today. Sarah Palin country. ;^>) Bull dogs with lip-stick and all of that. ;^>)
In the interior, with warmer summers than the coast (or once upon a time...), sunlight is the big issue; getting 12:12 means 'darking out' the structure, or using hand-trucks or similar (garden carts, wagons, etc.) to move truly outdoor plants in containers, into dark sheds.
If you want production, using either greenhouses, or outdoor growing with other means of providing darkness, then your window, before the weather turns too chilly and much more wet, is to start your plants indoors in early spring time, typically under HID lighting. I know of one person who has had his plants (mostly haze varieties) outside in a greenhouse on 12:12, with no additional lighting but the sun, since May 16, having started them in the later winter, or very early spring.. He should be done long before the weather becomes a serious threat, unless we get yet another outrageous year for weather weirdness.
Others growing outdoors who I know personally, will likely wait another week or 2, but they fight the cooler later summer temps, and the wetness, too. And as is the case with growing cannabis anywhere, more dampness means more risk of molds.
But as stated, control of light is crucial; our summer solstice at my latitude has 21' 50" of sun, and the sky stays lit all night. (Pretty cool up on a dome, such as in Dawson City, Yukon Territory, Canada, or similar, where the sun literally circles you all night, and into morning. Used to get a lot of serious work done in the summer here. ;^>)
And here in the Interior, we used to get up to nearly 100 degrees f. in mid-summer, and down to -60 to -70 f. in extreme cases in the winter.
Again, the extremes we once had are less frequent in the Interior. Or, -those- specific extremes, anyway.
re. the pork ribs and pork roast, I try to fill the smoker when I do meats or fish, and that way I have meals for most of a half-week or so.
with my walk-in smoker, which I use almost exclusively for salmon, I can put up to 105 sockeye fillets in there, but it's a much cooler smoking, and they get wrapped, sealed, and frozen for later use through the year.
Most folks grew/grow photo-period strains, for decades now.
Many tales I'll spare band-width by not telling in detail, including one that old-timers might remember from the Wasilla area in the later 70s, and a fellow more commonly referred to as 'Crazy Mike,' who also spent time up near Tok Jct. During the hey-day of the 1975 Ravin Decision, he'd had a couple of larger greenhouses in full bloom, right up near the Parks Hwy in Wasilla.... ended in severe law-enforcement comedy, with few serious 'hits, runs, or errors' in the end. But MAJOR comedy.
Yes, you can grow outside in Alaska. The warmer climates are best, but you're correct; there's a relatively short growing season.
Re. Anchorage and similar coastal Alaskan climates, remember the power of large bodies of water where temperature and climate are concerned. The N. Pacific and Bering moderate both winter and summer temps in such places. Notably cooler summers and warmer winters, in contrast to the Interior.
But folks grew outside in greenhouses in Wasilla, which is only slightly inland (and every place else up here), in the later 70s, back when Wasilla had one blinking yellow caution light, and less than 25% of the strip malls, Baptists, & thieves they have today. Sarah Palin country. ;^>) Bull dogs with lip-stick and all of that. ;^>)
In the interior, with warmer summers than the coast (or once upon a time...), sunlight is the big issue; getting 12:12 means 'darking out' the structure, or using hand-trucks or similar (garden carts, wagons, etc.) to move truly outdoor plants in containers, into dark sheds.
If you want production, using either greenhouses, or outdoor growing with other means of providing darkness, then your window, before the weather turns too chilly and much more wet, is to start your plants indoors in early spring time, typically under HID lighting. I know of one person who has had his plants (mostly haze varieties) outside in a greenhouse on 12:12, with no additional lighting but the sun, since May 16, having started them in the later winter, or very early spring.. He should be done long before the weather becomes a serious threat, unless we get yet another outrageous year for weather weirdness.
Others growing outdoors who I know personally, will likely wait another week or 2, but they fight the cooler later summer temps, and the wetness, too. And as is the case with growing cannabis anywhere, more dampness means more risk of molds.
But as stated, control of light is crucial; our summer solstice at my latitude has 21' 50" of sun, and the sky stays lit all night. (Pretty cool up on a dome, such as in Dawson City, Yukon Territory, Canada, or similar, where the sun literally circles you all night, and into morning. Used to get a lot of serious work done in the summer here. ;^>)
And here in the Interior, we used to get up to nearly 100 degrees f. in mid-summer, and down to -60 to -70 f. in extreme cases in the winter.
Again, the extremes we once had are less frequent in the Interior. Or, -those- specific extremes, anyway.
re. the pork ribs and pork roast, I try to fill the smoker when I do meats or fish, and that way I have meals for most of a half-week or so.
with my walk-in smoker, which I use almost exclusively for salmon, I can put up to 105 sockeye fillets in there, but it's a much cooler smoking, and they get wrapped, sealed, and frozen for later use through the year.
Check out the giant Alaskan vegetables.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4FL0u1wvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4FL0u1wvg
isn't that funny.you went to the trouble of typing all of that, and did not say why/where this "cooling" is happening. yeah, i saw that you typed "thermodynamics". if it is colder than usual anyplace, i would sure like to know where... otherwise, i'm sticking with "it is getting hotter earlier, lasting longer, and reading your graphs/charts etc does not mean diddly-squat." this is known as obfuscation, muddying the water in an attempt to confuse. "baffle them with bullshit" is another term that appears to fit the situation... i'm going to go along with Bill Nye the science guy on youtube -" the fucking world is on fire, people!"
been the topic of this thread for a hot minnit that the north pole is melting (not exactly the pole, but the whole arctic area) which must be caused by heat/warmth.
with me expressing there is cooler elsewhere because the balance must be maintained by an offset.
Tony Heller
Published on Jun 2, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r13wtwcs76c&t=313s
October 2018 through May 2019 were the coolest and wettest on record in the US. In this video I discuss this, and how climate scientist got everything exactly backwards.
it's obvious to me that you don't even look at the posts. especially
the thunderbolts project ones. maybe you can't understand them?
high pressure and low pressure systems push air mass down and pull air mass up. high pressure is warm air descending and low pressure is rising air mass...they are connected via ring currents.
https://www.weatherworksinc.com/high-low-pressure
while the arctic suffers that egregious heat (thanks for the perspective Moose eater) the continental united states gets record cold and moisture.
not just the US either, Europe has had devastating cold and precipitation this year...all while the arctic melts away.
and you typed all of that without regard to what thermodynamics means? i guess i baffled you with bs...troll.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Oh please stop quoting Tony Heller the shoe salesman (aka Steve Goddard).
Btw... did you notice the record breaking Tornadoes last month (over 500 in 30 days). Do you think they relate to climate change (global heating)? Just asking.
Btw... did you notice the record breaking Tornadoes last month (over 500 in 30 days). Do you think they relate to climate change (global heating)? Just asking.
fair question
definite maybe for an answer
it makes sense, and it aligns well with some predictions
the steering winds up high are driving increased atmosphere exchange with the arctic and temperate
or so it appears at the moment
