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Trump implies that he might legalize cannabis.

Gypsy Nirvana

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Yeah, maybe we are getting our hopes up waaaay too soon on this.

Trump does seem to back-pedal on so many of the things he has said in the past.
 

Easy7

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Talk about a deceptive headline. Trump is doing nothing to actively legalize cannabis. Allowing states that passed laws, is a far cry from federal legal cannabis.

Feds can still prosecute cannabis. Cannabis that crosses state lines is still a federal offense. If the feds find cannabis and they are investigating something else, they could bring charges. Not saying they will go out of their way just for cannabis. It's just not totally safe.
 

Medfinder

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When I hit that Washington Post link in your first post Easygoing I get this: HTTP Status 404
Cache Status [ACTIVE] Active

/polit...=.b97ece557eb2

MÈthode Portal Server / 2.2.7

Hmm... Wonder if this was an news story revise...

WHAT WE DO KNOW...

Medical and recreational cannabis sales will hit $11.7 billion this year, predicts cannabis analytics firm New Frontier Data. For comparison, wine sales in the United States were worth $60 billion last year, according to the Beverage Information and Insights Group.

that means? like the 70's ? 10 bucks for an 4 finger lid?
 

Easy7

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Markets have a mind of their own. If cannabis was federally legal, it would be a commodity. That means stock value. Foreign investors. Highly regulated stuff.

Just cause we drill more oil, does gas go down? Of course not.
 

pumpkinpie eyes

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nope...wont happen any time soon. forked tongue prez and atty gen sessions dazed and confused. it remains illegal under federal law, creating a clash between federal and state law.
 

dddaver

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We all know Trump lies or changes his mind totally depending on the day. I have absolutely zero confidence he will do anything, only whatever is best for him politically or would line his pockets.

If and when we see him,or someone in his family invest in a cannabis company, only then will we see him do something. And then only pass it all states.

And then I am confident Florida would only screw the pooch and wipe up the rear of any changes to come anyway.
 

Slim Pickens

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We all know Trump lies or changes his mind totally depending on the day. I have absolutely zero confidence he will do anything, only whatever is best for him politically or would line his pockets.

If and when we see him,or someone in his family invest in a cannabis company, only then will we see him do something. And then only pass it all states.

And then I am confident Florida would only screw the pooch and wipe up the rear of any changes to come anyway.

Yes on this post.

Given what I have seen,and on what he has done in the past,I would NEVER trust anything he said.The only thing he is interested in is self promotion and money...and his own daughter evidently.
 

aridbud

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Yes on this post.

Given what I have seen,and on what he has done in the past,I would NEVER trust anything he said.The only thing he is interested in is self promotion and money...and his own daughter evidently.

So true, Slim!
 

Stoner4Life

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"Trump is actively trying to legalize cannabis"

that's a VERY misleading thread title, and this is 2 week old news.

if tRUMP were actively trying to legalize cannabis I would have read somewhere in any one of those 3 articles that he was having 'cannabis' moved from a Schedule 1 narcotic down to a Schedule 4 where cannabis actually belongs; THAT is what I was hoping to see when I opened this thread, and that kind of news might have ended Gypsy's 'discomfort' about world travel etc. All of us would have taken a sigh of relief upon that news.

IMO, and perhaps the opinion of millions of other stoners here & worldwide, the POTUS that steps up to re-Schedule cannabis, THAT potus will be known as the 'Pot President' not the guy who's gonna promise to leave well enough alone, because that's all the news quoted above tells me.......

if tRUMP follows through on his word it still leaves me in Minnesota, unable to grow my own medicine (yes I'm in the mmj program here), still illegal to smoke any bud/flower/dabs/concentrates, etc unless I buy the vape pen & cartridges from the state monitored dispensaries, ummm, no edibles either, go figure.


That doesn't whiff cleanly of any kind of upcoming 'legalization', it's good in keeping hopes alive in keeping all the current state programs running, but what I read is a far far cry from legalization.

I wanna see what that POS does after those DOJ appointees are approved, we've got the world's biggest liar at the helm for the moment. I've been reading about the Dumpster since the '70s when I commuted in n' out of Manhattan 5/6 days a week, and right on into the '80s as well. My family business so I managed our warehouse employees & consumed 3 or 4 newspapers daily, and although I didn't usually go work on Sundays I still read the NY Times & the Daily News that day.

Scandals, bankruptcies, wife cheating, divorce, business cheating, lawsuits, Chump was in there daily, no lie, daily, ALL the good poop, it was like NY'ers all had a wicked uncle Donny; every once in awhile he'd get a casino or building opened, what a distasteful road to get there.





 
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igrowone

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not much of a believer in most Trump pronouncements
however, just the act of him whispering 'legal' is sending some big messages
couple it with the decrim activity that Schumer has been talking up
and it seems like it's going to be hard to stop
god knows what it will look like though
 

Easy7

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Both the war on drugs and drugs have been hard to stop. Bout all they did was make the drugs more dangerous.

It's a war on culture, always has been. Some people think everyone should be a certain way. Usually the wasps think so.
 

ambertrichome

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Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) introduced the Marijuana Justice Act in August 2017. That legislation would eliminate marijuana's status as a Schedule 1 drug under the Controlled Substance Act and require federal courts to expunge the records of Americans who have prior marijuana convictions related to use or possession.
Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) have all expressed support for the Marijuana Justice Act. A matching bill in the House also has more than 20 cosponsors.

On 4/20, Sen. Schumer introduces bill to decriminalize marijuana


On 4/20, a day unofficially celebrated as a marijuana holiday, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced his intent to introduce a bill decriminalizing the cannabis plant.
"It's time we allow states, once and for all, to have the power to decide what works best for them," the senator said in a tweet.

Although many states and D.C. have already opted to legalize or decriminalize the cannabis plant, on the federal level, it is currently categorized as a Schedule I drug. This means that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) defines marijuana as a drug "with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse." With this, marijuana is prosecuted as seriously as other Schedule I drugs like heroin, LSD, and ecstasy among others.
This categorization has been subject to criticism give that methamphetamine and cocaine, for example, are listed as less dangerous Schedule II drugs, according to the DEA.
Schumer's move marks the first time leadership in either party has called on Congress to decriminalize the plant.
The legislation wouldn't remove marijuana from its current DEA classification, but would instead give states the option to make it available commercially. It also aims to "invest critical resources into the THC research" for both youth and road safety, according to Schumer.
"I have long believed that states should function as their own laboratories of democracy," Schumer said. "My bill is a step in the right direction aimed at removing the barriers to state legalization efforts."
According to a CBS News poll released Friday, six in 10 Americans believe pot should be legal, but most (61 percent) feel that this should happen on the state level.
 

igrowone

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The legislation wouldn't remove marijuana from its current DEA classification, but would instead give states the option to make it available commercially. ...

much thanks for posting this, it helps to have some idea of what is being proposed
except i don't have a f'ing idea what that would mean in law
same DEA classification and states can make it available?
obviously there's a lot of detail to be fleshed out
 

herbgreen

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In a phone call late Wednesday, Trump told Gardner that despite the DOJ memo, the marijuana industry in Colorado will not be targeted, the senator said in a statement Friday. Satisfied, the first-term senator is now backing down from his nominee blockade.



Check it out this guy's name is " Gardener "


:plant grow:
 

mean mr.mustard

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No he isn't.

This thread title needs changed.

Maybe something like...

Say great things about our supreme leader because he's pretending to be concerned about injustice but really just dialed Sessions' ego back returning us to Obama era Cole memo status thusly doing fuck all and expecting admiration

Or maybe something a little shorter...
 

EasyGoing

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No he isn't.

This thread title needs changed.

Maybe something like...

Say great things about our supreme leader because he's pretending to be concerned about injustice but really just dialed Sessions' ego back returning us to Obama era Cole memo status thusly doing fuck all and expecting admiration

Or maybe something a little shorter...

I believe in order for cannabis to have moved forward, the cole memo had to be revoked. Thus putting the issue front in center in front of congress. Which will soon write a law, that Trump will sign.

Your title was horrible btw...... So blinded by your own partisanship that you can't even see cannabis becoming legal in front of your own eyes. When it does become legal, you will be bitter, and say things like Trump did it for fame, or fortune....... And you would still be wrong. State rights are very important to many people. That is the way I have made the most headway in my very conservative town trying to open up my own businesses.

Crazy how Trump can be the biggest supporting president of the LGBT community, and get zero credit.

Now this with cannabis....... Crazy how divided people have become.
 
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EasyGoing

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Talk about a deceptive headline. Trump is doing nothing to actively legalize cannabis. Allowing states that passed laws, is a far cry from federal legal cannabis.

Feds can still prosecute cannabis. Cannabis that crosses state lines is still a federal offense. If the feds find cannabis and they are investigating something else, they could bring charges. Not saying they will go out of their way just for cannabis. It's just not totally safe.

So allowing states to have federal backing wouldn't be "actively trying legalizing cannabis"?

Right now, I am having to borrow money at a higher rate than other industries. I can't insure my business, my products, my crops. I can't build a business and put it on the stock market. All that changes if Trump pushes for this one change........ That is huge progress........

I seem to remember everybody celebrating states becoming med or rec states....... Federal recognition of those rights isn't a big deal for you?

I think you have missed the point all together......... :comfort:
 

EasyGoing

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It's only a matter of time. There is no victim so there is no crime. Millions of Americans have used cannabis with absolutely no ill effects. With legal recreational use this will be proven with no doubt going forward. The Emperor Wears No Clothes.
Burn1

Amen!
 
My humble blue collar opinion is this. Without cannabis being removed from the drug classification tables by the FDA and DEA, millions of Americans can't touch it. Any job that requires federally enforced drug testing is off limits. Even if federal declassification and legalization happens, right to work states can still enforce drug testing and include cannabis. Don't get me wrong, we are making wonderful progress! I just think this is still a ways off before all working class people can fire one up after a long day and unwind. I do think corporate greed and politicians hunting for votes will be the driving factors in seeing all the pieces fall into place.
 

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