1969 Mekong Delta strain

tazz11 said:

I agree the strain dose look more like a indicia . but there is no mistaking the smoke is a pure sativa ,I was thinking some kind of jungle indicia . but its sativa super trippy weed when you smoke it .. that's why I keep saying its both types in one plant ,a indicia would be out of veg in 35 -40 days tops . this strain is going to take 4-5 months ...rule of thumb is veg is 1/3 of the way ..
even at 4 months if I force it ..that's around 16 weeks in veg ..that's not indicia ,that's some kind of crazy sativa ...
your talking 25-28 weeks in flowering even if you force it ...

it has to be some kind of a jungle sativa ..and its traits say the nam black is directly related to it somehow . again rule of thumb says the stronger of the two weeds is the father strain ...this strain could answer a lot of questions about how cannabis is constructed ...

yes , at the same time I out right agree with you it dose look like some kind of jungle indicia

.it took 2 and 1/2 weeks to show even the littlest signs of gender ... indicia would have showed sex in 3-5 days .....

I would think some pro's would say the growing habits define what a strain is ,no matter what it looks like ..if that's the case this is a sativa ...

what it is ,is the oddest damn cannabis I ever saw ...lol

thank you for your insight and opinion ...

correct me if I am wrong ...but . is it true a land race strain is self pollenating and that makes it a IBL by way of nature . if that's the case then this strain has been around a very very long time ..if it was a few years old the strain would be easy to manipulate ,this strain is hard core rock solid sativa ..that looks lie some kind of Indicia ...lol

I think this strain need shock therapy...

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tazz11 said:

I am sorry I just don't have that much time to baby set this strain ....as I see it I came here to ask about strains from the Mekong Delta area ...

as far as what the strain is or is not ,

when they wrote the book telling all of us what sativa and indicia are . this strain never got that memo ....

we have all seen the sativa vs indicia chart that has 16 different choices ,8 for each type . we had 5 people smoking this strain and ended up with all 16 check marked . how to hell did that prove anything ...lol


this strain has taken over my med grow ,and at some point I will have to get back to what I was doing ...and no this strain has not been flowered out yet , we have not been able to get past veg yet ,...that's the problem at this point ...it should have been in the flowering room 1 1/2 months ago ...... I can not risk other breeding stock for one strain that takes close to a year to flower out ..,,things are getting backed up and its getting crazy trying to time normal grow cycles around this strain ..

so no I am not falling for that sh** again I was ask for pics I posted some . I don't have to do anything other then live and die ...the strain is not being made public ....if this is where my work on this strain stops . so be it ....

I agree ....I will be back after harvest time .....

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yesum said:

This thread has me thinking of Colonel Kurtz somehow.

' I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor . . . and surviving'.

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tazz11 said:

are research has found some info that is interesting ..most of the strains for the Mekong Delta area and the river and Lao and Cambodia areas range from 10 - 16 weeks flowering time ,.

this confirms one of the facts told to me about the strain base , it was a isolated patch of 20-25 plants growing wild in the jungle ,they had not seen any like them in the 4 years he had been there ,he never saw any more the rest of the time he was there ,he said they found a few patches of normal sativa here and there but destroyed them as the found them ...

the reason this is interesting . is the Original haze has had to have a unknown strain with a high THC and long flowering time very much like the Abducted strain base , but as far as we can tell at this point the strain is totally unique & unknown ...

if this holds true then Abducted is mostly likely the father of Vietnamese Black , how ? they were down wind from the strain Abducted , and Abducted is the stronger of the two strain bases ...

and this confirms the Delta zonker detail in part . because where he said they came from is down wind from the area Abducted was found , so Abducted male pollen would cover to the south east of the lower delta area ...in fact in the case of a typhoon winds blowing the opposite direction it the Abducted strain base could be the isolated rare father of most of the strains with in say 60 -125 miles of its location ..

how far can male cannabis pollen travel in the winds ...???

I found the answer to that question :

I asked Canada-based international hemp agriculture consultant Anndrea Hermann for more information. “According to pedigree hemp production regulation in Canada, a range up to 5,000 meters (3 miles) are required for isolation between different pedigree and different cultivars,” Hermann said.
Hemp is pollinated primarily by wind. Hermann said most pollen travels about 100 yards. But depending on the weight and size of pollen and other natural conditions, wind-borne pollen can travel for miles, up to 2,000 miles away from the source. Hermann states, if the wind blow towards the marijuana plants, the hemp pollen will find the plants because the male pollen wants to pollinate the females. This is Cannabis Sex 101..

that's crazy this could tell us why the old strains were so strong and then vanished ... the father strain base was destroyed and taken to a new area where there were no other cannabis plants ...the U.S.A............ lol

it could have pollenated in both directions north west and south east for as much as 2000 miles , the typhoon weather patterns cut across the Philippines and drive inland 400-600 miles in that same area . you could be looking at the father strain of cannabis , see it pollenates every strain for 2000 miles in both direction and they move along the trade routes to the birth place of all cannabis..., India and the meddle east ..

its off spring & seeds could have been traded along the spices trade routes ...

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Elmer Bud said:

G`day Tazz

Cpl of factors to consider ...
Moisture kills pollen .
The topography of the countryside the Kancha grows in . Flat land or over water I can believe the 2000 miles . But Over forested mountains and valleys I think the potential range is much smaller .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

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Snook said:

Pollen may become not viable over time but sorry elmer moisture doe not kill pollen, where would the plants be if it rained (moisture) before pollen was exchanged to females?

After reading this article, https://www.opengrow.com/topic/3764...tiples-strains/page__hl__bopms__fromsearch__1

I have stored pollen in water and used it to successfully pollenate a girl couple weeks later.

EDIT: don't know about the topography factors..

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