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Old 04-26-2019, 09:51 PM #2381
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I have told the truth, I have zero to gain by altering the truth, I am retired for several years now. I have had a great life, few complaints, I would like to put out a dependable pure OHaze seed line or two for my self and others, even if I do not sell them but let others do so. Selling is work, I do not need the $ and I will only do what I love today. Breeding OHaze is not work for me it is fun, and I think I can do it better then anyone else just because of my experience and history.

FYI I have all but given up on Phylos, they have other goals then my interest in Cannabis Evolution and Relationships, but FYI I only sent them extracted DNA no living materials they could steal, I also sent them many of my varieties DNA, focused on Landraces to help explore my interest in Evolution and Relationships. I am glad I tried, nothing ventured nothing gained.....

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That is great news Sam! I would love a chance to grow some of those Haze seeds one day I have a few each of the haze5 x Hunk and HazeMexi x Hunk,along with Ohaze f3's,Thunk and Kerala Haze getting ready for the summer along with a bunch of other hazey hybrid's so its gonna be a Hazey Season for me
Thanks for the info too,I would love to read a book or article about your life and breeding experiences,it would be fascinating for me and I suspect many others too....Are You close to any Top-notch writers that can help with it
Re: Phylos....Its a shame as it could/would have been an amazing tool. You can only try though!
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:46 PM #2382
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hello,
well i'm little confused now after these new insights ...
now the story becomes more hazy as it already is...
well @ the end i love the haze and it's for me the end of the road...
the plant for the holy grail...

@SamS
is there a way to spot early good plants?
like with the tom hill haze you can see after week 6 resin on stem on the best once... same with o-haze?
Also is there a special smell when rub the stem to look for ?

and finally: the seeds you gave seedsman... was it the same batch you still have the kilo from... a decade ago... would fit the time frame when Seedsman start to sold...

and for you all information:
The Flying Dutchman O-Haze is a hybrid with huge WLD influence ...
i've bought 3 pack's over the last 5 years @ the source in Amsterdam...
also there rest haze hybrids like Titans Haze are old seeds and germination is like zero... so be warned...

TFD O-Haze... a joke... bad joke!


Seedsman O-Haze


O-Haze from 90' repro


get hazed' but not with TFD O-Haze
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:58 PM #2383
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:00 PM #2384
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hello,
well i'm little confused now after these new insights ...
now the story becomes more hazy as it already is...
well @ the end i love the haze and it's for me the end of the road...
the plant for the holy grail...

@SamS
is there a way to spot early good plants?
like with the tom hill haze you can see after week 6 resin on stem on the best once... same with o-haze?
Also is there a special smell when rub the stem to look for ?

and finally: the seeds you gave seedsman... was it the same batch you still have the kilo from... a decade ago... would fit the time frame when Seedsman start to sold...

and for you all information:
The Flying Dutchman O-Haze is a hybrid with huge WLD influence ...
i've bought 3 pack's over the last 5 years @ the source in Amsterdam...
also there rest haze hybrids like Titans Haze are old seeds and germination is like zero... so be warned...

TFD O-Haze... a joke... bad joke!
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Seedsman O-Haze
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O-Haze from 90' repro
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get hazed' but not with TFD O-Haze
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Mad Mac, dont get you down, maybe those plants can give great results, just remember they are hybrids..
The same thing happened with HFS haze, shamelessly hybrid, but big in crosses with zamaldelica ...
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:09 PM #2385
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Mad Mac, dont get you down, maybe those plants can give great results, just remember they are hybrids..
The same thing happened with HFS haze, shamelessly hybrid, but big in crosses with zamaldelica ...
thx
but i have enough great haze hybrids made on my own with the resin male from tom hill... so i'm fine... and i'm sure much better as this WLD hybrid... prefer the pure sativa buzz ;-)
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:03 AM #2387
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:51 AM #2388
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Thanks for posting Sam.. Look forward to seeing the haze project come to fruition. Maybe you can do something with the skunk too & share it with some folks on here who will work it separate ways & we can have a multi national project.. I've had a few upsets this year with old seeds not working but all the mango & super silver haze are growing well & the Afghans. I tried to germinate 50+ skunk haze but they didn't work. I hope to get some from you some day. Please keep in touch & keep us updated on what your doing. All the best
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Old 04-27-2019, 04:05 AM #2389
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Nevil himself stated that he got the NL clone as well as the seeds from America.
Whether or not this is the infamous trip when he smuggled cuttings disguised as fish tank plants is beyond me.
He also stated that none of the seedlings he received/purchased were as good as the clone.
All of this can be read via posts by the legend himself on MNS forums.
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I think a cpl of stories are mashed together there .

NL Greg said he smuggled his NL#5 with its leaves trimmed into Holland in a terrarium .

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Some recent convo on the Topic of the lineage of NYC Haze

There are several NYC Haze cuts , IMO all related

If you know the history of the seedbanks and release dates The Uptown Haze is something before 92 it seems NL5HzC is most likely , but IMO A5 is closer from my research. Neville’s Haze was released in 97 if I recall . No NH No Jack No SSH . I believe it’s possibly a 70’s Haze bag seed. Heavy Haze came thru NYC remember the 3 brothers were from New Jersey they brought a bunch back east . It could also be any Other Haze offerings before 92 Posi TFD Etc

IME Nevil’s Haze hybrids - Jack SSH Nevils Haze compared to NYC Haze have a brighter Note that Piney /Lime /sweetness can be present- that is not present in NYC Haze , Nevils Haze is the closest but That brighter pine note / sandlewood is not existent in NYC Haze it’s a darker Incense/ Frankincense

The leather /floral / dead flower /vase water / musky /basement/ ammonia/ Incense/ spice is all darker notes nothing bright or Sweet about NYC Haze

Current common NYC Haze is a shadow of Frank or the Golden’s but what’s in my jar is special and not a dense hybrid. Phylos shows piff aka NYC Haze relations to A5 and HAshplantHaze but doest say if it’s HpHzC or HpHzA


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The 1st Haze hybrid grows would have been late 80s .
The clones were held for several years before Nevil returned and collected them .
So the grow crew had seeds and clones of the initial trials of Haze / Indica hybrids .

Now Nevil went to PNW what year ?
The hybrids were made with NL , G13 , Hash Plant after Nevil went to the PNW with Jorge . And returned with clones .

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