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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

Gypsy Nirvana

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Ahhh,...Getting back to the MAIN TITLE and TOPIC of the thread.....'Have you looked at the North Pole lately?....well, ehh, the answer is no, and I don't know of anyone who has been to look at the North Pole lately either - do you?
 

igrowone

Well-known member
Veteran
Ahhh,...Getting back to the MAIN TITLE and TOPIC of the thread.....'Have you looked at the North Pole lately?....well, ehh, the answer is no, and I don't know of anyone who has been to look at the North Pole lately either - do you?

generally the only way to look at the north pole is from the air or satellite
which was my original intent
and since this thread was started, it's shrunk, and looks like it will keep shrinking
the ice that is, not the north pole itself
now the northwest passage didn't open this year
but the northern passage, which hugs the russian coastline did
another win for Putin
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
climate denier to oil company executives "well, i did what i could. i guess they are not as gullible as we thought. whatever happened to the idea that if you repeat a lie often enough & loud enough that people will begin to believe it?" oil co. execs to denier on payroll "well, that fucking moron Trump disproved the hell out of that theory. bastard..." :biggrin:
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
[B]Arctic lakes that don't freeze.[/B]

Arctic lakes that don't freeze.

This hissing, bubbling Alaska lake is frightening scientists.
https://www.adn.com/arctic/2018/09/24/across-the-arctic-lakes-are-leaking-dangerous-greenhouse-gases/#1330
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"When the scientists examined samples of the gases, they found the chemical signature of a "geologic" origin. In other words, the methane venting from the lake seemed to be emerging not from the direct thawing of frozen Arctic soil, or permafrost, but rather from a reservoir of far older fossil fuels."



In other words, natural......... Not man made.......:tiphat:
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
....Trump to climate catastrophists: 'your fucking scam is finished, we are no longer signatories to the Paris accord and will not surrender our sovereignty to a group of unelected bureaucratic functionaries to pay for our own demise, so fuck off already!'
 

Yamaha FG-840

Active member
There is no such thing as man made warming. In fact right now there's no such thing as climate change.

The climate is currently in what's called a Warm Optimum.

Climate optimums can ONLY occur when it's warm. In fact the

definition
of

climatic o p t i m u m s

is that it has to be

warm,

and there has to be little ice.

If there is too much ice - no optimums. Ice interrupts the global oceanic currents and set up glaciation periods as warm water from the tropics is unable to make it around the globe and provide

optimum diversity of life through

optimum conditions for life.
================

The French first calculated the current base climatic values of

Temperature,

Pressure,

Humidity,

General Composition, etc,

and published them that same year in 1864.

These base climate values were checked on through the rest of the 19th Century,

through WWI and WWII, all the way into the early 1950s when the

International Standard Atmosphere was adopted globally.

Space travel by many nations verified the International Standard Atmosphere's base climate values hadn't changed since 1864,

all through the 20th Century remaining rock solid and absolutely steady,

with global average temperature oscillating roughly .5 above, and .5 below, calculated average temperature with hardly ever a noted difference of a couple of tenths of a degree.

The .5 above/.5 below standard anomaly is often referred to as the

prototypical 30 year half and full anomaly cycle.

How anyone couldn't know all this is nearly inconceivable.

This is the basis upon which nearly all of humanity's legal, regulatory and calibration Standards are derived from.

I've personally told you this nearly 40 times in the past few months alone. It's so clearly true it's not even necessary to link someone to it, it's the history of science in the 20th and now 21st century.

They taught you about this in grammar school when they told you about dinosaurs and told you what climate optimums are in middle school as one of the main reasons dinosaurs could live so many places back then.

Yew thawt thum'duN dyed frum clymit change? Many did.

IT

COOLED

OFF.


Funny it didn't surface until the warming (man made).

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By the 1970s global flight and particularly computerized flight through the atmosphere and into orbit prompted the Americans to publish the ''American Standard Atmosphere

in 1976.

The American Standard Atmosphere is a re-affirmation of computerized-instrument verification of the values the French first published in 1864, and which the GLOBE adopted in 1952 or so as the

International Standard Atmosphere, with further values published extending the

unchanged base climate values of that

International Standard Atmosphere,

upward another couple of hundred thousand feet.

These published values against which all mankind's instruments are, back there somewhere, calibrated, his Aerospace and global Aviation systems foremost among them,

remain the same today,

as they were when the French first calculated those unchanging values,

in 1 8 6 4.

It's almost inconceivable anyone could claim they don't know this, it's the foundations of

middle school and even grammar school,

climate studies, and if it weren't all true, you'd have published the truth instead of the shameless transparent fraud you do publish, designed to blight science and lie to your fellow members and, your fellow man.

Your open, transparent, willful fraud in the hope of blighting understanding of science, is ultimately based in what's called ''Green House Gas Theory,'' the story that the

cold,

light-blocking Nitrogen bath

stopping about 29% of the Sun's energy from reaching the planet,

as the

VERY

first

STEP in resolving the temperature of the planet - in real science

and in your KooK's ChurcH - the one the government started similar to the global chemistry scam called

''Pot's Like Heroin'' medical scam: the global medical and chemistry science scam that has you signing in here encrypted,

so global government chemistry/medical scammers can't come to your house and potentially murder, assault, or arrest you for

''denying the signts yaW.''

That Pot ain't like Heroin.

The party that made pot illegal in the United States insisted the rest of the world ''stay on track'' and not ''deny the science'' of pot being like heroin by bribing the entire planet to ''help in the war on drugs and the devilish grassiness what makes min goe mad and so we awl gotta git on thim opioids cawse the devil wead cood make some people get off opioids and onto the devil's lettuce, and then directly back to thim devilish, devilish opioids. So we awl gotta git on opioids, yaw.''

That's a quote directly from the Church of Authority Dong Gobblers International's

''critical scientific peer review'' from ''world renowned pharmacological and biochemistry research universities'' and is so respected,

for a half century and t.h.i.s. m.i.n.u.t.e. they DARE you to ''deny the science of that''

in court, over MOST of the world.

Don't deny you know such scams exist.

Your church's new doctrine - that cold light blocking nitrogen baths are magically a heater if a

magical gaissness makes the energy not go in,

turning cooling to heating,

easily verified for yourself by going to any of your favorite ''a magical gaissiness dun made uh coald bathuh HeeDur yaW!'' websites or perusing their printed material,

and finding where they tell you ''the green house gases warm the Earth 33 degrees warmer than if there were no Atmosphere.''

They also tell you openly,

knowing you can be lied to since they did it to your grandpa in schools over ''pot's like heroin''

in the same literature, that the

very

first

step in calculation of the temperature of the planet is to COOL calculations, 29%,

mainly due to the cooling GHGs which are those shown to you in all charts globally of

''Sunlight, Top of Atmosphere vs @ the Surface'' so easily found, that like the other information I've published for you here, it doesn't even require links. They're everywhere and clearly show the

cooling green house gases vastly predominating in the 29% cooling, which is the

very first step

of calculating the planet's temperature.

Ozone does a very little of the 29% cooling, that's the very first step in calculation of the temperature of the planet,

Oxygen does a very tiny amount of the 29% cooling, dust and Nitrogen do some.

Your handlers couldn't get to and defraud those charts because they are published by so many undeniably reliable scientific fields.

Real scientific fields, not the government frauds who tell you pot is like heroin,

and that 29% less light into a rock,

makes more than 100% of available light energy come out of it,

if ''thuh magical gaissiness what dun made uh cold bath uh HeeDuR yaW!''

never lets the 29% go into it.
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
Isn't the northwest passage now a cruise ship destination?
it has been, only this year the Canadian coastguard warned they would not be able to rescue them when they got trapped in polar ice...


try to keep up!



Canada: Northwest Passage Claims Yacht

By Arctic Northwest Passage Blogspot — last modified Sep 10, 2018 10:08 AM The opinions expressed in this article are the author's own and do not reflect the view of noonsite.com or the World Cruising Club.

The Canadian Coast Guard has issued a warning of ice risk in the NW passage due to heavier than normal ice conditions. French flagged Sailing vessel "Anahita" has sunk in Ballot Straight.

Published: 2018-09-05 00:00:00
Topics: Weather
Countries: Canada


This information reported by: http://arcticnorthwestpassage.blogspot.com/2018/08/canadian-coast-guard-takes-11-hours-to.html

On the evening of the 28 August the French-flagged yacht "Anahita", an aluminum Ovni 345, sank in Ballot Strait of the Northwest Passage. The disaster occurred in Depot Bay, just east of Bellot Strait. According to initial information, the ship was trapped by drifting sea ice from which it could not escape.
The course of "Anahita" from Nuuk on the coast of Greenland went via Baffin Bay to Pond Inlet and on to the entrance of Bellot Strait. There the skipper allowed the yacht to get into floating sea ice and sink.

Under the pressure of the ice and current of Bellot Strait, the "Anahita" then ruptured and began leaking resulting in sinking. The crew, two Argentines, had to flee to the drifting sea ice floes. However, they still managed to drop an emergency call and activate the epirb of the boat. It sent just long enough for the Canadian SAR in Trenton Ontario station to start a rescue operation.

Both men have since been taken in by other nearby yachts who responded to the "Mayday". And this despite the fact that all the crews presently in the region with their yachts have had a great need to bring themselves and their ships to safety in the last hours in front of rising drifts of sea ice floes.

Also a tug and an icebreaker had been ordered to the scene. The icebreaker is likely to need more than 11 hours to reach the scene of the accident.
The "Anahita", an aluminum Ovni 345, had recently been specially converted for the journey into the ice – details not available at publish time.

The Anahita, like about a dozen other yachts, was on its way east-west through the Northwest Passage. This summer, however, the ice in the Arctic is persistent. Unlike in previous years, so far there has not been a clear path. So the crews had no choice but to practice patience. Or turn around. That’s exactly what the Canadian authorities have urged all crews in recent days. It is not foreseeable that the passage would open at all this year. On the contrary, the current ice situation for yachts is dangerous. The crews should either move their ships back south or look for a safe hibernation port in Baffin Bay or Greenland,
The skipper of the "Anahita", Pablo David Saad, had deliberately ignored the official warning and instead oriented himself to the skipper of another yacht, who has traveled the passage several times and who had been hoping in the last few days still for a withdrawal of the ice. Saad has been long-distance sailing for several years with changing crews. He as well as his current companion come from San Martín de los Andes, a city in southwestern Argentina near the border with Chile.
Four days before the incident...
The Canadian Coast Guard service published the following warning:
Good morning, Due to heavier than normal ice concentrations in the Canadian arctic waters north of 70 degrees, the Canadian Coast Guard, recommends that pleasure craft do not navigate in the Beaufort Sea, Barrow, Peel Sound, Franklin Strait and Prince Regent. CCG icebreakers cannot safely escort pleasure craft. Operators of pleasure craft considering a northwest passage should also consider the risk of having to winter in a safe haven in the Arctic, or in the case of an emergency, be evacuated from beset vessels. Safety of mariners is our primary concern.
REGARDS, NORDREG CANADA 181256UTC\LR


"Northwest Passage is ice clogged and closed, Canadian Coast Guard WARNING do not attempt the passage or be prepared to overwinter in the Arctic. Maersk plans to run the Arctic with shipping vessels, but blacked by ice a well as 22 other pleasure craft. Above normal ice in NW Passage and 4th most ice on record since 2014. I don't think the corporate media is giving us all of the information".




Message received from Canadian Coastguard :
From: “NordReg1 Iqaluit” <iqanordreg@innav.gc.ca>
Subject: 9H9573 – INFO – 08-18-1256 – LR – HEAVIER ICE CONDITIONS
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:06:44 +0000
NORDREG IQALUIT 181256UTC AUG 2018

Good morning,
Due to heavier than normal ice concentrations in the Canadian arctic
waters north of 70 degrees, the Canadian Coast Guard, recommends that
pleasure craft do not navigate in the Beaufort Sea, Barrow, Peel Sound,
Franklin Strait and Prince Regent. CCG icebreakers cannot safely escort
pleasure craft. Operators of pleasure craft considering a northwest
passage should also consider the risk of having to winter in a safe
haven in the Arctic, or in the case of an emergency, be evacuated from
beset vessels. Safety of mariners is our primary concern.
REGARDS,
NORDREG CANADA
181256UTC\LR

 

Yamaha FG-840

Active member
Those are the climate facts.

That's why you're reduced to not even having the courage to type anything.

You know how ridiculous you'll sound telling people you actually believe

29% less light into a rock, makes more than 100% come out if a special, magical gassiness

makes the 29% not go into it.
 

Yamaha FG-840

Active member
He knew it, he was hoping the site members he tried to deceive wouldn't check.

it has been, only this year the Canadian coastguard warned they would not be able to rescue them when they got trapped in polar ice...


try to keep up!



Canada: Northwest Passage Claims Yacht

By Arctic Northwest Passage Blogspot — last modified Sep 10, 2018 10:08 AM
The Canadian Coast Guard has issued a warning of ice risk in the NW passage due to heavier than normal ice conditions.
 

Yamaha FG-840

Active member
That's why none of these people willfully deceiving the other site members about all this, don't dare actually try to debate their fraud, they've already seen what happens when they go almost anywhere on the planet and try to defend their story, that

29% cooling by the atmophere -

the very first step

in Atmospheric temperature calculation,

is making more than 1 0 0 % of available energy come out of the planet -

because a 'Magical Gaissiness, what dun tern't uh coald bath in two uh HeeDuR YaW!''

made the 29% not go into it.
 

Yamaha FG-840

Active member
We've all established clearly,

you're the one who's too retarded to even attempt defend your claims.

You sound a bit retarded, you know that? Still trolling, amazing.

Definitionally 'retarded' describes the motion in your hands

when you try to make them move and defend the indefensible.

They stop moving and you screech ''I hatechew I hatechew!'

Go ahead, tell us all the following, I dare ya LoL

''I believe, there is a gassiness,

that makes more than 100% of available energy come out of a rock,
every time it makes less go in, if the gassiness is magic enough.''

Type that and let's debate more than 100% of available energy coming out of a rock, by making 29% less go into it.

:laughing:

You're reduced to ridiculous name calling like a child. Because when you try to move your hands and try to defend the indefensible,

their motion retards till you can't even bear to repeat it yourself.

I told you, this is easily proven, type the words in front of these people,

''I believe something making 29% less energy to into a rock

can make more than 100% of available energy come out of it,

by making the 29% never go in, if that something is magical enough.''

We'll all wait.

You get that long personal testimony of the magicalness of the gassiness in print, and turn the tide on people not thinking

29% less energy makes more than 100% come back out,
if a magical gassiness makes the 29% never go in.

Wow us all with your un-retarded testimony of that, purfessur.
 

kickarse

Active member
Well the climate went and changed here, the last 3 days have been 21c, 11c, 18c
hope all these $$$$ we are throwing at the problem can keep the temps stable, wouldn't mind 21c everyday this time of year
 
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