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Old 03-16-2019, 12:03 AM #11
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Kelps known to bind with heavy metals making less available ( or something along those lines). There's plenty of research showing its effects on heavy metals, radioactivity, etc...
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Because of the level of nutrients we put in our soil mixes (similar to anyone making "super soils") we were technically required to register as a fertilizer which made us subject to heavy metal testing, which is published as public record in each state we are registered. Now not all soil makers have gone this route. If a product is registered as a fertilizer though it will have been required to submit heavy metal testing to make sure it meets the standards set by the state. Hope that's helpful. You could get your own testing done but it's going to run you a couple hundred dollars per test.
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Old 03-16-2019, 05:57 AM #14
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Ibechillin. This would not include those growing naturally and there is not a synthetic phosphorus fertilizer around which does not contain polonium 210.....well I think there is one which is super expensive.
Just because some fertilizer is called organic does not make it so in my book.

I'm not defending the post you quoted by any stretch.
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Old 03-16-2019, 06:03 AM #15
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Playing around outdoors again (current grow 2019 starts on post #75):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=352271

Science Of Lighting & Plant Reactions (Sticky Thread):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358147

Drying and Cure Process Explained In Depth (Sticky Thread):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358186

Pot Size, Root system and maximizing growth thread:

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Silicon, The Misunderstood Element:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=352413

Humic and Fulvic acid information:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=352265


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i would be more worried about your water source containing heavy metals. i was having problems for years with cloning basically getting zero strikes. i had tropical fish and they kept dying. i thought i was doing a poor job. i got a water test of our well water using the cold tap so the hot water heater didn't interfere with the results. it showed rates higher that EPA suggestions of copper and aluminum as well as nutrients I'm assuming is from septics in our area as well as 17 ppm of silica. So i got artesian well water for the clones and am now getting 100% strikes. I use RO water now for the plants in soil. All the plants are looking better also. my guess is that if you had metals effecting your plants, you'd know because there would be symptoms.
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Funny your in Washington too thailer, lots of well water (and massivley varying quality). My main grow spot over the years ran 400ppm well water through recirculating hydroponics/rockwool and the plants absolutely loved it haha best results ive ever had.
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https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358186

Pot Size, Root system and maximizing growth thread:

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Silicon, The Misunderstood Element:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=352413

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haha It's the Water.

yeah, i'm not too far from you too. our area has high basalt so the water has high levels of silica naturally and is quite soft. i only have 100 ppm total with 10 ppm carbonates. the artesian well is soft also but has more carbonates to buffer so it takes a LOT more acid to lower than my water just a few miles away.
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If you know where Clover Creek is at in Spanaway I lived right on it thats where the 400ppm was at. Im not sure exactly whats in the ground mineral wise in the area and I never had the water tested, never even checked or adjusted the ph one time in over a year lol it just worked. It was awhile later that I got an RO system and blue lab ph/ppm meter that i learned.
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https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358147

Drying and Cure Process Explained In Depth (Sticky Thread):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=358186

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Silicon, The Misunderstood Element:

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Am I the only one who finds it hilarious when "organic" people say synthetic nutrients are dirty when those same people typically add sea based and rock based inputs full of heavy metals (and minute amounts of radiation) into their soil and plants?

I cant imagine a cleaner product than one grown in a sealed environment with tested clean synthetic nutrients tbh (and tissue testing), hell add in silicon, aminos, humic/fulvic acid, vitamins B1 and B2, ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and some beneficial bacterias/fungi its damn near the same (to me at least).
Ha just "some" beneficial bacteria?.. thats where organic wins.. my soil is super alive.

You can add all that stuff and tell yourself that plant is absorbing it etc but you dont know..

Even my worst soil mixes when i was learning organics did not go that badly compared to several times using a different bottled nute and getting horrible tasting weird plants..

The trillions of extra microbes in an organic mix is where it wins out because they mediate and mitigate any toxic excesses..

Plus plants have grown with this level of mutualistic relationship in soil since day 1 and not in soiless mixes being drip fed nutrients decided by its master..

When you go organic you'll understand when you see plants happier and healthier than anything you have seen.. you cant force greatness..

Only imo but i did use bottled nutes for 15 years before going organic 5 ago and i do wish id gone organic 20 years ago now.
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