What is the best, most practical extraction method for the home grower?

redlaser · Oct 26, 2019

White Beard said:
I’ve seen charts that use a different timeline, that show THCa conversion ~85% complete after 30 min. - which is to say, about the time it takes the heater to reach temperature...taking it much farther percentage-wise takes much more time, and results in more CBN.

It would be good to track the conversion process through those first 30 min to see if there’s an optimum point, beyond which we just burn electricity for no further gain. Medicinal value in THCa, so it seems like a happy medium to be relaxed about it.

The chart I use is the one romanoweed posted on post 58, jump117 posted it in his thread also a few years back.

Looks like I should have been going for 250/30 mins. instead of 220/30 mins, not sure if that was a typing error, or attempt to preserve more terpenes at lower temps.

I use an second thermo meter in the oven while decarbing, for more accurate temps. Usually preheat the pan in oven, add pot, set timer a minute or two longer than target time to get pot up to temp

romanoweed · Oct 26, 2019

However pure it is, after 20 Miutes it looked the best!

I read Sam Skunkman likes to smoke Skuff, he told it in the Drysiftthread. He also told it doesent Need to be pressed, it is better unpressed , only then has full Taste, and can be smoket in the bong dabb thingy, but you Need an unusual thin Mesh in Bong..

And the method for finding out perfect time of decarboxilation you described Wolf is only for Honey Oil, Ethanolextraction, and CO2 Extractions.. Of wich honey and co2 arent really a Thema here, they are a bit to complicated. The bubble-Link doesent work.

romanoweed · Oct 27, 2019

I just dont get why These are so unknown.. Didnt know it myselve.. i read one of These has 220 Meshsize, wich is quiet big.

Pollen Tumbler Thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=365155

I think that is definitely most easy Method to get Skuff/Hash. If you want hash just press it between Fingers, and if like heat it Abit with Lighter, but i would try Skuff alone for undesired Taste

romanoweed · Nov 21, 2019

I found another Method. Its a Combiantion of Sift and Alcohol-extraction. It is simple in therms of you dont Need to think so much, but amount of work is average.

1st: Sift your Plantmaterial rudimentairly. No Problem if there is abit to much green Matter coming trough, just make a average Degree Hash/skuff.

2nd: place Hash/Skuff into alcohol. After a Week, sift this trough Coffefilter. What Comes trough the Coffefilter is evaporated by low heat in a Pan sitting in Waterbath, stir Abit until no much Bubbles.

So: no Need for EXACT sifttime-adjustment. This garantys that there is not much green Matter left while Alcohol-extraction, since the biggest Problem in Alcohol-Extraction is the harsh Taste that Comes from Green Matter.
Some People question if Smoking Alcohol-residues is bad, but no knowledge, only speculation.

Thats the Simplest, most convincing Method in my Oppo. Just buy a pair of Stockings, (haha) and high Percentage clear Alcohol in Store, the purer, the more Effective. 100 percent alcohol caled Ethanol is also chaep to get in something like Hobby/Construction-Stores. Attention, there are 2 Sorts of it, if i recall right. Google alc.ectract. Cannabis. or just buy Whisky, its ok too.

look:
https://youtu.be/ipYPLTArkcU?t=26m40s

Fred Sanford · Nov 21, 2019

romanoweed said:
I just dont get why These are so unknown.. Didnt know it myselve.. i read one of These has 220 Meshsize, wich is quiet big.

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Pollen Tumbler Thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=365155

I think that is definitely most easy Method to get Skuff/Hash. If you want hash just press it between Fingers, and if like heat it Abit with Lighter, but i would try Skuff alone for undesired Taste

I bought one of those. It's very small, like you can tumble a 1/2 oz. Also, it's so small that as the weed tumbles it can't really fall against the mesh like it needs to, so almost nothing comes off of it. The motor spins it too fast too, so the weed can't sift like it needs to. Total waste of money. I cant wait for something reasonably priced that is large enough. It looks cool if you don't know the size. :dunno:

romanoweed · Nov 21, 2019

i heard you can place Marbles or whaterver inside. I heard from that Kind of Problems..

. I just know my SELVEKONSTRUCTED motorized Vibration Siftmesh worked well. I didnt wrongly declare it as functioning. There are also different Sellers....

ESTERCHASER · Nov 21, 2019

what i hate is some of my fave flowers cant be made into concentrates because the volatile terps or esters "flare off" during processing im told.......looking for potent edibles in northern vermont from TRUSTED folks is impossible as of now, yes were legal but the clowns in legislature gave folks no access short of growing their own/making their own.........it is what it is i guess.

UFOpilot · Nov 21, 2019

Citric acid extraction.
As described here:

https://cannapedia.me/Citric+Acid+Extraction

Seems like an easy method to me.
I think I'm gonna give it a try someday.

Gry · Nov 22, 2019

UFOpilot said:
Citric acid extraction.
As described here:

https://cannapedia.me/Citric+Acid+Extraction

Seems like an easy method to me.
I think I'm gonna give it a try someday.

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Tinksworth · Nov 22, 2019

Can I use 95% everclear for QWISO or similar methods?

hush · Nov 22, 2019

Tinksworth said:
Can I use 95% everclear for QWISO or similar methods?

Yes you can. Except, you're making QWEt at that point instead of QWIso.

Tinksworth · Nov 22, 2019

hush said:
Yes you can. Except, you're making QWEt at that point instead of QWIso.

haha ok ok, I just feel more comfortable extracting with something that was made for human consumption. I have a pound of hemp coming shortly and i'm thinking this is my best bet to extract it for tinctures etc.

hush · Nov 22, 2019

Tinksworth said:
haha ok ok, I just feel more comfortable extracting with something that was made for human consumption. I have a pound of hemp coming shortly and i'm thinking this is my best bet to extract it for tinctures etc.

Fair enough. Yes, there is a peace of mind about not having to worry about whether you've purged all of the solvent, and since you're making tinctures instead of wax or shatter for smoking/vaping, I do in fact recommend you go with ethanol instead. That's how I do my tinctures. Isopropyl is only really recommended for extractions where the entire amount of solvent will be evaporated away.

romanoweed · Nov 22, 2019

The Problem with Ethanol is: Ethanol is not only extracting Resin, no it extracts many many other Substances, such as Chlorophyll, and other unwanted Substances out of the Plant. Thats the reason for the harsh Taste. (even i dont get why actually it becomes that harsh, since originally the say : complete Flower wasnt that harsh

How did your Extractions turn out Hush?? Not so pleasant right? still ok?

hush · Nov 22, 2019

romanoweed said:
The Problem with Ethanol is: Ethanol is not only extracting Resin, no it extracts many many other Substances, such as Chlorophyll, and other unwanted Substances out of the Plant. Thats the reason for the harsh Taste. (even i dont get why actually it becomes that harsh, since originally the say : complete Flower wasnt that harsh

How did your Extractions turn out Hush?? Not so pleasant right? still ok?

It's palatable. I always add it to something, instead of taking it straight (that shit burns!). I barely notice it when I add it to some IPA, or even when I add it to milk. But I have to say, the reason why I'm tasting it is that I didn't do a quick wash. I did a long, several-week wash. I can all but guarantee that the taste would be barely noticeable if I did it quick wash style.

It's just that, since I'm taking it in tincture form, it doesn't matter to me that the chlorophyll and fats and stuff are in there. I only care about that when I'm making shatter.

romanoweed · Nov 22, 2019

Ah, ok, then it might be allright. But the Thread was ment also for smokable Products, acording youtr Title.
So, for Smoking (dabbing) , you would know what i mean.. short wash may help, but i doubt it would be perfect

hush · Nov 22, 2019

romanoweed said:
Ah, ok, then it might be allright. But the Thread was ment also for smokable Products, acording youtr Title.
So, for Smoking (dabbing) , you would know what i mean.. short wash may help, but i doubt it would be perfect

Where did you get that this is a thread about smokable products? I even just went back and re-read the first post and I don't see it. I mean, I did say that the only experience I had (at the time of starting this thread) was with QWISO and QWET, but I never specified that I wanted to talk only about smokables. Nonetheless, I never intended that, so please everyone feel free to talk about *any* kind of concentrated cannabis product in here.

:tiphat:

romanoweed · Nov 22, 2019

I think me using the Word "but" was Abit confusing . Sorry if it was . i ment it like : but aswell, as justification for me presenting my methods. ttill later

OkThen · Nov 23, 2019

UFOpilot said:
Citric acid extraction.
As described here:

https://cannapedia.me/Citric+Acid+Extraction

Seems like an easy method to me.
I think I'm gonna give it a try someday.

I'v done this a couple of times, and have been pleased with the results. I was never sure if I was getting a full decarb in the oven or passing the point. I also like the idea of eating the full product to get most med benefits. In my experience it takes about a week or more to get a full decarb, I can pop a single canna cap using bud with pleasing results, two will put me at a decent altitude. My tolerance is fairly low.

Gray Wolf · Nov 23, 2019

romanoweed said:
The Problem with Ethanol is: Ethanol is not only extracting Resin, no it extracts many many other Substances, such as Chlorophyll, and other unwanted Substances out of the Plant. Thats the reason for the harsh Taste. (even i dont get why actually it becomes that harsh, since originally the say : complete Flower wasnt that harsh

How did your Extractions turn out Hush?? Not so pleasant right? still ok?

Technique makes a difference. QWET performed at subzero temperatures doesn't pickup the chlorophyll or other water solubles, so isn't harsh.

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