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O Tellado das Sativas (43N outdoor grow)
- Thread starter vcasqui
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As you can see, they are really short. I kept them for too long in the 5l pots.
The LST is not perfect by any means, but at least is better than last year. I think the best LST'ed plant is QM3.
I think the green is too dark, so maybe a little bit too much N? I've been watering with only water the last 2 waterings. They are also having some heat troubles.
I hope they will do good during the flowering stage.
And here a little comparison of the leafs: OE, QM#2 and QM#3.
The LST is not perfect by any means, but at least is better than last year. I think the best LST'ed plant is QM3.
I think the green is too dark, so maybe a little bit too much N? I've been watering with only water the last 2 waterings. They are also having some heat troubles.
I hope they will do good during the flowering stage.
And here a little comparison of the leafs: OE, QM#2 and QM#3.
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Hi vcasqui,
Thanks for your updates, i see that the QMs had a bit of nutrient deficiencies in her first stage of life, but now all the new growth in your plants look perfectly healthy, i think you found the right feeding for them.
I would recommend you to adjust the thermal amplitude, so your plants don't have such lower temps at night: they would grow faster.
Thanks for your updates, i see that the QMs had a bit of nutrient deficiencies in her first stage of life, but now all the new growth in your plants look perfectly healthy, i think you found the right feeding for them.
I would recommend you to adjust the thermal amplitude, so your plants don't have such lower temps at night: they would grow faster.
Hey dubi, thanks a lot. Your post came in a perfect time actually, as I'm struggling with the feeding of the plants.
I was thinking a little and, in the end, I identified the burned leafs as P/K defficiency, or PH fluctuations. But I was a little afraid because I was not sure about the N, but you saying that they had defficiencies is a big help.
I will also try to find a better place for them to sleep. In the last nights I kept them inside a room, and they sure seem to be happier in the morning. The taller branches have also got a little bit bigger.
Take care
I was thinking a little and, in the end, I identified the burned leafs as P/K defficiency, or PH fluctuations. But I was a little afraid because I was not sure about the N, but you saying that they had defficiencies is a big help.
I will also try to find a better place for them to sleep. In the last nights I kept them inside a room, and they sure seem to be happier in the morning. The taller branches have also got a little bit bigger.
Take care
https://imgur.com/a/NnsIz
Not perfect, but not tooooo bad.
You can see the deficiencies clearly in the pics. The older leafs are pretty damaged, and the plants dropped more leafs than I woud like. I would say that they have a "pretty high" food deficiency, but at least the new growth don't look so bad. Also, probably, some PH fluctuations and a fuckton of excessive heat.
The good news: the taller branches of QM#2 and QM#3 increased it's high by ~10-13cm (now they are around 35-37cm tall) in the last 7 days. The smaller branches not quite that, but they also became taller. Overall size of the OE have also incremented.
I have to say, though, that I observed a bigger internodal distance in the top quarter of the QM#2.
You may also remember that I have 2 more plants: QM#4 in a 7l pot and an ACE MIX in a 3l pot. I'm not showing pics of those because I'm ashamed of their conditions. Maintaining root-bounded plants in such small pots is a nightmare for me. Days like today, where the temps reached 43+ºC, the plants went from recently watered to "almost dead" in just 16 hours. Even the bigger pots were almost dry, and I did water them this morning... The 44Km/h dry winds didn't help too much either.
That's all for now. I'm making mistakes and probably my conclusions are wrong, but the practise makes the master they say.
Not perfect, but not tooooo bad.
You can see the deficiencies clearly in the pics. The older leafs are pretty damaged, and the plants dropped more leafs than I woud like. I would say that they have a "pretty high" food deficiency, but at least the new growth don't look so bad. Also, probably, some PH fluctuations and a fuckton of excessive heat.
The good news: the taller branches of QM#2 and QM#3 increased it's high by ~10-13cm (now they are around 35-37cm tall) in the last 7 days. The smaller branches not quite that, but they also became taller. Overall size of the OE have also incremented.
I have to say, though, that I observed a bigger internodal distance in the top quarter of the QM#2.
You may also remember that I have 2 more plants: QM#4 in a 7l pot and an ACE MIX in a 3l pot. I'm not showing pics of those because I'm ashamed of their conditions. Maintaining root-bounded plants in such small pots is a nightmare for me. Days like today, where the temps reached 43+ºC, the plants went from recently watered to "almost dead" in just 16 hours. Even the bigger pots were almost dry, and I did water them this morning... The 44Km/h dry winds didn't help too much either.
That's all for now. I'm making mistakes and probably my conclusions are wrong, but the practise makes the master they say.
Criollo
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Hi, good luck with your work.
I dont do this but may be a little coverage over the soil can help you with the deshidratation of the plants. I know its difficult because 2 day are with hot sun and then 2 weeks with rains, and so much water with soil coverage in the plants probably damage them.
I dont do this but may be a little coverage over the soil can help you with the deshidratation of the plants. I know its difficult because 2 day are with hot sun and then 2 weeks with rains, and so much water with soil coverage in the plants probably damage them.
maybe next season you can add charcoal
it acts as a reservoir for water and nutrients
this season i added some to the soil and the plants seem to love it
otherwise i couldnt grow them in fabric pots because the wind would dry them out too fast
thanks for the pictures and im looking forward to your smoke reports
it acts as a reservoir for water and nutrients
this season i added some to the soil and the plants seem to love it
otherwise i couldnt grow them in fabric pots because the wind would dry them out too fast
thanks for the pictures and im looking forward to your smoke reports
I think I can do that from July until mid August probably, and then remove the coverage from then onwards.
maybe next season you can add charcoal
it acts as a reservoir for water and nutrients
this season i added some to the soil and the plants seem to love it
otherwise i couldnt grow them in fabric pots because the wind would dry them out too fast
thanks for the pictures and im looking forward to your smoke reports
The charcoal is actually a good idea also, but maybe that requires more knowledge than I have right now. I think the main problem I'm having this year with the nutrition of the plants is my new flowering fertilizer; It is too weak compared with the one I used the last year.
Looking beautiful and healthy at this stage vcasqui
With very well developed branching that has the potential to produce a very nice final yield.
Thanks for the updates and best wishes for the flowering stage!
Hey dubi, thanks for your kind words of encouragement. But honestly they could look a lot better. Luckly for me, thanks to the work that the ACE team does, the genetics are top notch, so they behave better than they should for the attendance I'm giving them.
Thanks all for stopping by and for the tips. I'll update today or tomorrow with some more pics.
Take care.
Hey folks, sry for my lack of updates. I found a temporal job and I'm also studying programming. So the plants are now always outside and I don't feel comfortable taking pics of them there.
I'll harvest the Orient express in a week or two, because she is starting to develop some rot and my production this year is already pretty limited. But she smells super good. Still have some white pistils.
The QM#2 will be harvested around 1 / 2 weeks from now I guess. No rot at all, and no white pistils, but I feel like she can go longer. SHe smells like bubblegum or something like that.
QM#3 still have some time to go, still getting fatter and a lot of white pistils. This one doesn't smell as good as the other two for the moment. I guess she will be ready at the end of this month.
All in all, as I stated before, I'm dissapointed with myself because I didn't take proper care of my plants. The nutrition was wrong, the watering was wrong and other things went wrong also, but they survived all my shit.
I'll try to update in the future. See you guys.
I'll harvest the Orient express in a week or two, because she is starting to develop some rot and my production this year is already pretty limited. But she smells super good. Still have some white pistils.
The QM#2 will be harvested around 1 / 2 weeks from now I guess. No rot at all, and no white pistils, but I feel like she can go longer. SHe smells like bubblegum or something like that.
QM#3 still have some time to go, still getting fatter and a lot of white pistils. This one doesn't smell as good as the other two for the moment. I guess she will be ready at the end of this month.
All in all, as I stated before, I'm dissapointed with myself because I didn't take proper care of my plants. The nutrition was wrong, the watering was wrong and other things went wrong also, but they survived all my shit.
I'll try to update in the future. See you guys.
So, I finished the harvest today. From now on the rain will be continuous it looks like, which is actually a blessing, because the fucking people is making the woods burn... so much of where I live is burnt, it's depressing...
But well... about the plants;
In the end, noone of my plants had rot. The little amount the OE was developing, after I removed the parts affected, didn't continue. I did not find any plagues, just some little spiders here and there, but they seemed to be friendly; and some ¿aphids?, but very few. So, thanks to the mother earth, even though I fucked it up pretty hard, I was able to harvest around 90% succesfully.
But anyways, the QM's #3 and #4 were very damaged. They dropped a crazy amount of leaves due to the shitty treatment I gave them, losing a ton of production. Luckly for me, the QM#2 and the OE had an acceptable amount of bud for their size, even though they where not in perfect conditions at all.
And for the good part... I was able to made a good cigarette of "charas" (I mean the hash from the scissors when manicuring the QM's), that I'm smoking right now, and man... it is good. I have to say that I didn't smoke in two weeks, so maybe my tolerance is lower, but I feel super good; I was feeling active (I even gave a bath to my sister's dog) and then I started to smile for no reason for 10 or 15 mins. Now I'm in a quite deep state listening to music with the dog sleeping in my lap. It makes me really hungry. I started to smoke 3 hours ago, and I'm not finished.
Also, the OE gave me a surprise, she was pregnant. She was the only one, and noone of my plants was hermie, so maybe a neightbour had a male (I hope it's a male and not an hermie); but she was the only one and only in specific zones, usually in the lower part, the bigger buds were pretty clean... maybe bugs? I'm guessing bees, because I saw some and the OE was the one with the stronger smell.
I took a couple of pics of the plants, so you can see the terrible conditions they were in. Also some pics of the harvest. I will upload them soon.
All in all I would say that the terrible work I did made the production a lot smaller than what it could've been, but judging by the cigarette I smoked, they still have quality.
They are drying now. Temps from 17'5ºC to 20ºC, with 57% to 65% humidity. A lot better than last year.
Well, sry for the big text, but I had to made up for the lack of updates. Soon pics.
But well... about the plants;
In the end, noone of my plants had rot. The little amount the OE was developing, after I removed the parts affected, didn't continue. I did not find any plagues, just some little spiders here and there, but they seemed to be friendly; and some ¿aphids?, but very few. So, thanks to the mother earth, even though I fucked it up pretty hard, I was able to harvest around 90% succesfully.
But anyways, the QM's #3 and #4 were very damaged. They dropped a crazy amount of leaves due to the shitty treatment I gave them, losing a ton of production. Luckly for me, the QM#2 and the OE had an acceptable amount of bud for their size, even though they where not in perfect conditions at all.
And for the good part... I was able to made a good cigarette of "charas" (I mean the hash from the scissors when manicuring the QM's), that I'm smoking right now, and man... it is good. I have to say that I didn't smoke in two weeks, so maybe my tolerance is lower, but I feel super good; I was feeling active (I even gave a bath to my sister's dog) and then I started to smile for no reason for 10 or 15 mins. Now I'm in a quite deep state listening to music with the dog sleeping in my lap. It makes me really hungry. I started to smoke 3 hours ago, and I'm not finished.
Also, the OE gave me a surprise, she was pregnant. She was the only one, and noone of my plants was hermie, so maybe a neightbour had a male (I hope it's a male and not an hermie); but she was the only one and only in specific zones, usually in the lower part, the bigger buds were pretty clean... maybe bugs? I'm guessing bees, because I saw some and the OE was the one with the stronger smell.
I took a couple of pics of the plants, so you can see the terrible conditions they were in. Also some pics of the harvest. I will upload them soon.
All in all I would say that the terrible work I did made the production a lot smaller than what it could've been, but judging by the cigarette I smoked, they still have quality.
They are drying now. Temps from 17'5ºC to 20ºC, with 57% to 65% humidity. A lot better than last year.
Well, sry for the big text, but I had to made up for the lack of updates. Soon pics.
Looking forward to the pics. Thanks for the updates.
bigger pics:
QM#4: https://imgur.com/a/UnvMh
QM#3: https://imgur.com/a/tMFm3
QM#2: https://imgur.com/a/VKs5R
OE: https://imgur.com/a/LZdPa
Seeds and a couple of harvest pics: https://imgur.com/a/ekSc8
QM#4: https://imgur.com/a/UnvMh
QM#3: https://imgur.com/a/tMFm3
QM#2: https://imgur.com/a/VKs5R
OE: https://imgur.com/a/LZdPa
Seeds and a couple of harvest pics: https://imgur.com/a/ekSc8
Hi vcasqui,
I'm glad to hear your harvest has been a success this season!
And that the loss due to plagues was minimal.
We all learn every season, i'm sure you will be able to feed much better your plants next year and you will be able to increase the yield growing in pots.
To control the PH and EC is very important, especially when the plants are already bigger than the pots without much space for the roots.
Wish you enjoy your well deserved harvest
Thanks for sharing your experience. Best wishes!
I'm glad to hear your harvest has been a success this season!
And that the loss due to plagues was minimal.
We all learn every season, i'm sure you will be able to feed much better your plants next year and you will be able to increase the yield growing in pots.
To control the PH and EC is very important, especially when the plants are already bigger than the pots without much space for the roots.
Wish you enjoy your well deserved harvest
Thanks for sharing your experience. Best wishes!
