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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
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StickyBandit
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That's gonna be some weapons grade shitOne more cause I couldn't resist cobbing some Killer A5 Haze
Dried for 5 days at 55-60% rh and sweated for 20 hours at 40-43C. I also removed the bigger stalks and most of the leaves, which I did not do with the golden tiger cob.
This one did not sweat that much and I suspect it was the moisture from stems/leaves, they hold a lot.
Nice, I open it up and a fermented floral smell hits me, then I come on here to post and read the above
Before
and after the intial sweat, now drying a little.
So the cobs can sit in their vacuumed state, stored like jars?
Here are a couple more cobs that were also a little too dry to start with. Even without a proper sweat the stickiness and compaction makes something from the shake. I’ll save these for later, lots later.
If the dope is too wet what happens? Is mold a risk?
Ringodoggie, that Nesco dehydrator like for making deer jerky is perfect for this. A whole run could be cobbed on all those racks.
Here are a couple more cobs that were also a little too dry to start with. Even without a proper sweat the stickiness and compaction makes something from the shake. I’ll save these for later, lots later.
If the dope is too wet what happens? Is mold a risk?
Ringodoggie, that Nesco dehydrator like for making deer jerky is perfect for this. A whole run could be cobbed on all those racks.
StickyBandit
Well-known member
Correct me if I'm wrong.....
What I understand is once it's properly dried it can be stored vacuum packed in darkness for many years and just gets better.
If it has moisture in it mold can and does form quite quickly, as I found out.
Once the fermentation process has been started it will continue even once dried completely.
I have 0.5kg of KA5H vacuum packed and stored at the back of a cupboard where the family can't find it
I'll open it every month or so to check progress and dryness
With your collection of bud, @flylowgethigh, you could make a massive cobb stash
If you prefer to smoke it it will grind up and expand like what my family prefers to do. At least it improves in storage instead of deteriorating. You could even bury some to age, like a fine wine
What I understand is once it's properly dried it can be stored vacuum packed in darkness for many years and just gets better.
If it has moisture in it mold can and does form quite quickly, as I found out.
Once the fermentation process has been started it will continue even once dried completely.
I have 0.5kg of KA5H vacuum packed and stored at the back of a cupboard where the family can't find it
I'll open it every month or so to check progress and dryness
With your collection of bud, @flylowgethigh, you could make a massive cobb stash
If you prefer to smoke it it will grind up and expand like what my family prefers to do. At least it improves in storage instead of deteriorating. You could even bury some to age, like a fine wine
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Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
Once the cobs are fully finished they can stay vacuumed up for years. I take off what i need for the next few weeks and revac the rest.
If the weed to too wet then the ferment will cause the cobs to go very dark and it will lose a lot of the terpines; It'll still "Bend you silly" though!
Providing you use a vacuum machine to exclude the oxygen then mold is not an issue.
I think you'll find that even those that you think were too dry will still ferment, albeit at a much slower rate. If you just leave them somewhere warm for several months you'll be very pleasantly surprised.
If you do a search for some of my post's in this thread since November 2022 you'll find several detailed descriptions of the process with lots of photo's. The way I do it is not the only way by any means, but I'm getting consistent results and Mrs DM and myself are "Bent Silly" every day.
Hombre is spot on even if they dont sweat at first they will cure nicely vacuum sealed just take 3 to 6 months.
You can stash them away and come back later to find they have transformed into A grade smooth sweet smoke.
Another brotherhood of the cob member for sure.One more cause I couldn't resist cobbing some Killer A5 Haze
Dried for 5 days at 55-60% rh and sweated for 20 hours at 40-43C. I also removed the bigger stalks and most of the leaves, which I did not do with the golden tiger cob.
This one did not sweat that much and I suspect it was the moisture from stems/leaves, they hold a lot.
Nice, I open it up and a fermented floral smell hits me, then I come on here to post and read the above
Before
and after the intial sweat, now drying a little.
Some lovers of the herb just transition to this curing method as if they have been doing it their whole life.
That is a beautiful result brother you are going to set the bar higher and higher my hats off to you.
StickyBandit
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I vacuum packed some Malawi x PCK too damp for the first ferment and I DID manage to get mold, so it is definitely possible to get mold even if under full vacuum. Maybe I'm special
When dope cures it offgasses something. One would expect the vac sealed cobs to make gas and loosen up the vacuum.
I have heard of people adding terps for various effects, like Lino lol for relaxation. Seems a cob would spreAd the terpene throughout the dope as it sweated.
Squeezing out seeds makes dope feel wetter than i5 is cause of the oils that were smeared all over the dope. I have some more hanging that will get cobbed wetter.
Quart bags fit the Nesco better than gallon bags.
I think the cob cured OHz I am experimenting with is pretty good activity weed after being cobbed. Smokes smooth.
I have heard of people adding terps for various effects, like Lino lol for relaxation. Seems a cob would spreAd the terpene throughout the dope as it sweated.
Squeezing out seeds makes dope feel wetter than i5 is cause of the oils that were smeared all over the dope. I have some more hanging that will get cobbed wetter.
Quart bags fit the Nesco better than gallon bags.
I think the cob cured OHz I am experimenting with is pretty good activity weed after being cobbed. Smokes smooth.
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You can def get mold even vacuum sealed if its too wet.
Hence the need to dry it regularly as it cures.
Your O'Haze cobs are better cured a little on the dry side anyway.
Small delicate flowers need less moisture to sweat and cure and will eventually surprise you when aged 6 months or longer.
Getting the pre cobbing dry right is a major part of the art so dont worry too much, drier is usually better than wetter in most cases.
Theres no doubting your special brother you wouldn't be here if you were not ha ha.I vacuum packed some Malawi x PCK too damp for the first ferment and I DID manage to get mold, so it is definitely possible to get mold even if under full vacuum. Maybe I'm special
If they are too moist you can get mold even years later under full vacuum I recently threw a few of my 12 month old cobs out for that reason.
Lucky I have way more than I will ever need already.
CDNINCA
Well-known member
Thank you kind sir! Exactly the information I needed! Enjoy that GTExactly that.
I tend to break a chunk off that I'm intending to use over the next few weeks and keep it in a little jar. The rest of the cob is resealed for further aging.
I have a drawer with many little jars and alternate between them.
Today it's Golden Tiger
I have a wet sticky blob of dope sweating. This is the answer to wispy haze larf, which is anything under a nice bud.
StickyBandit
Well-known member
Monthly quality control check
This is what a 0.5kg of Killer A5 Haze looks like on a breakfast tray. You can see one was not even rolled, just a 4oz bag of weed straight into the vacuum packer
It varies from 1 to 2 months down with all the stalks intact this time. Not next time.
Some was 34°c for 24 hrs one time and some has been in the incubator twice. Just because
Some of the bags were completely dry and after trying some older KA5H cobs decided to compress them all and warm them up in an attempt to get the ferment started. It seems to work OK even after the weed has been properly dried and already a month or two cured in the jars
All the cobs smell strong of fermentation so the level of dryness doesn't seem critical to get the process started
This is what a 0.5kg of Killer A5 Haze looks like on a breakfast tray. You can see one was not even rolled, just a 4oz bag of weed straight into the vacuum packer
It varies from 1 to 2 months down with all the stalks intact this time. Not next time.
Some was 34°c for 24 hrs one time and some has been in the incubator twice. Just because
Some of the bags were completely dry and after trying some older KA5H cobs decided to compress them all and warm them up in an attempt to get the ferment started. It seems to work OK even after the weed has been properly dried and already a month or two cured in the jars
All the cobs smell strong of fermentation so the level of dryness doesn't seem critical to get the process started
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Some nice variation there brother your going to have some beautifully cured smoke in the coming months.Monthly quality control check
This is what a 0.5kg of Killer A5 Haze looks like on a breakfast tray. You can see one was not even rolled, just a 4oz bag of weed straight into the vacuum packer
It varies from 1 to 2 months down with all the stalks intact this time. Not next time.
Some was 34°c for 24 hrs one time and some has been in the incubator twice. Just because
Some of the bags were completely dry and after trying some older KA5H cobs decided to compress them all and warm them up in an attempt to get the ferment started. It seems to work OK even after the weed has been properly dried and already a month or two cured in the jars
All the cobs smell strong of fermentation so the level of dryness doesn't seem critical to get the process started
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I can almost smell them from here ha ha.
Love your work.
Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
That's a huge breakfast! And I thought I was hitting it hard with a meagre 0.3g!Monthly quality control check
This is what a 0.5kg of Killer A5 Haze looks like on a breakfast tray. You can see one was not even rolled, just a 4oz bag of weed straight into the vacuum packer
It varies from 1 to 2 months down with all the stalks intact this time. Not next time.
Some was 34°c for 24 hrs one time and some has been in the incubator twice. Just because
Some of the bags were completely dry and after trying some older KA5H cobs decided to compress them all and warm them up in an attempt to get the ferment started. It seems to work OK even after the weed has been properly dried and already a month or two cured in the jars
All the cobs smell strong of fermentation so the level of dryness doesn't seem critical to get the process started
View attachment 18805717
Beautiful work though!
CDNINCA
Well-known member
Oh my, those look amazing... Santa Marta Gold?? Spectacular! I've not heard of the other cultivar but I'm sure it's incredible, it looks great, amazing colors, cheers!
I have been heating the vac pak cobs with a vacuum pulled on the bag, and when they seem to have outgassed and lost the tight seal, I cut off the top of the vac bag, re-vac it, and reseal and keep heating. When they stop making gas , and the vac stays tight after heating over night, I store them.
Are they supposed to go right into vacuum when still ‘wet’, or sweat in a bag but no vacuum first for a while?
If these store well, and get better with age, I will cob up some of each run.
Probably all wrong in this technique. The color does change like the one I showed.
Are they supposed to go right into vacuum when still ‘wet’, or sweat in a bag but no vacuum first for a while?
If these store well, and get better with age, I will cob up some of each run.
Probably all wrong in this technique. The color does change like the one I showed.
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