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Raho said:

Yeah. That's it. Lookin forward to seeing lots of pics. Will be like a family reunion, siblings ;-)


My female was the F2 BX and oBoy was the F2. The potency, smell, vigor, structure . . . everything was better in the F2.
He said it in his post, amazing smells and a potency greater than either of the parents was found often.
For those of you who haven't read the threads. GTRFB had found a freak of a haze female in a run of Seedsman oHaze. It finished completely in 10 weeks with huge yeilds of fat bud when everything else from the run took 14, 16 weeks? Somone compared it to a plant that Verdant Green had found I think. Anyway, the guy crossed an assortment of males with it, grew them out and sent in a few packs to share.

The F2 was so good he did a BX trying to capture his original.
Odds are good for others to find something good there.
Seems to be the story of Haze from the beginning.
I have some F3's I guess you'd call it between the 2, not planning to run them any time soon as again, the offspring have clearly exceeded the best gust of their parents. ;-)
Listen bro, no secrets here. I'm tellin you the F2s are breeding fuel, and congratulations There's a great haze run just in that pack, no shit. The NL just seemed to pass on better structure, faster flowering, and added a smooth hashy base to the sharper incense taste.
I haven't hit the BX jar in months. Soon ;-)

Really enjoying this thread. Good luck man.


Kanga!
I love those words
In my mind, very little of value has been added to our experiential vocabulary in the last 10 years. When talking about old strains, old words carry the old meaning better than anything. Authenticity Hombre!



I love the way you described how the bud is both physically dense in flower and produces that dense rich smoke that just completely fills the lungs.

That dense rich bud combined with a more open flowering, sweet Oax shortens the flower cycle and changes the structure to something a lot more condusive to indoor growing.

The combining your selection of male(s) from that with a Sumatran.
Well, you will have to give us some details on that girl

The eMM is sweeter to me than the earthier mullum, and the sweeter Thai tastes always carry a hint of purple pepper sour grape kind of taste in the background. Do you know what I mean?

Anyway, gotta run. Pics of the Sumatran !
Check back in soon.

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King said:

raho said:

The eMM is sweeter to me than the earthier mullum, and the sweeter Thai tastes always carry a hint of purple pepper sour grape kind of taste in the background. Do you know what I mean?

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That comes from the clone that I was given from a old friend that lived in Mullum and had, had that strain for many years.
This years Emm are a perfect combo of sweet earthy, sometimes it is hard to pick the smell until you chop it up then the smell fills the air.
It has pretty much got to where I want it now and I cant wait to use the males on the Nev#21 as that cross was the best of all the strains I used to the NH.
I have also used a male that came from the MMb x MM#1 over the NH, I think this should be killer

Ill put up things down in the Wizards re Sumatran/Oax.

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Raho said:

Thanks Kanga, I am thrilled that you validated that taste. I have been trying to describe the Thai flavors that I experienced for a long time, but haven't found anyone around on the web in 3 years that described it how I remembered it, or recognized my description from their experience.
Then, getting the hybrids of your gear and finding the old taste in the background, just like the best Thai I grew so long ago . . . well it's very satisfying

It sounds like you have a very clear vision now of what your genetic tools are, where you want to take it, and are stacking traits to combine into something the whole world would enjoy.
Just great info Kanga, and I can't wait to see how it turns out

Old story:
I also had a thai/pakistani hybrid from some seeds we got from a dude smoking in the parking lot at SFO in '82 that carried the purple pepper sour (citric acid) grape taste and added a camphor element that really "activated" the sour grape/citrus. Very penetrating terpenes. Big yield. Powerful smoke. I have a pic of me sniffing the cola on that plant I need to scan.

I experienced the earthy flavors in the loose thai (83) so I know those as well.
I have to admit I am hopelessly hooked on the sweeter taste, but they are clearly related so it's like fucking 2 sisters More variety is always good . . . hard to go wrong

When I get some jar pics of the 21 emm up, you will see it's a beautiful plant. The calyx to leaf ratio is nuts.
I grow for myself, so trimming to me is different than people trimming for bag appeal. I don't like to handle the flowers any more than necessary, so I leave more leaf than most people.
The 21eMM is practically all calyxes, but in a spear shape flower. That has to come from the eMM.
The big Mullum (MMb?) S5 also has high calyx ratio, but with more ping pong flower structure, and rock-like density. Most people would appreciate a grinder or scissors to deal with it.

Glad to hear you have found the Nev21 crosses to be worth keeping in the stable.
It must be a huge job to test all those offspring as I know you to have very high selection standards.
Sounds like you have had a VERY productive year

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Highlighter said:

Thought you might have posted the same shots you did in Slip's thread, (bet you're doing it now) but was delighted to see those archival shots!

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Slip Kid said:

Here's a close up of the inside of the top above^^. She's been on plain water for close to 2 weeks and still drinks at least a gallon/day. I could probably push the sisters to 95 days because they show no signs of letting up.

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She's been on plain water for close to 2 weeks and still drinks at least a gallon/day. I could probably push the sisters to 95 days because they show no signs of letting up.View Image

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