K guys for my coffee/joint ramblings of today are about risk.... Well reward too, but for f's sake RISK..... Connecting all the fricken dot... Before hand... So your not left standing with no cash, no smoke, a big lawyer bill, a gun in your mouth, or worse....
Partners can be an asset but are definitely a risk, workers can be an asset but also more definitely a risk, grow stores, big hydro bills, driving with anything, ect ect it all is a balance of what you need/want to get done, and the risk you put yourself under doing it.
The funniest shit I've ever seen has been in these last couple years of pseudo legality.... I was in my buddies store, and there was a guy we know, shameless really got a lot of licences going to cancer meetings picking up clients, greasy... Anyways dude slangs other stuff and has probably 20+ lic. And hundreds bulbs telling us he has his home show wired to the pigs, sorry police... My buddy just rips him a strip, but he'd honestly never thought of it. If your put rippers in jail, then get caught selling grey area legal weed in a non legal fashion guess who gets to join their friend in jail after he's settled in nice made some friends ect....
Same with any out of the house activity if you grow/smoke at home, write a list, was up, clothes right out of dryer with scent sheet, choose good hours, get it all done fast efficient, or wear real work clothes ect. For big bills do multiple deposits to atm then pay online, or pay through money mart to avoid trail, better yet create business accounts and cooperate holdings...
Huge thing I heard from some crusty old bikers is just don't fuckin be goin out after 6 pm... I can hear it now.... The only fuckin people driving around past dark is the three C's...... Oh yeah who's that I ask..... Cops, cabbies and criminals..... It's true, not because it is but because if it comes down to it the can make it true.... Legal yeah ok but but when you get yanked all pie eyed white your midnight frosty, driving the blinged out whip you got with your last good pull, and they ask if they might take a look ..... Did you remember all the hose clamps and grow store receipts... Is your whip insured to your grow, does your name raise flags..... Even if none of that your name, your face, your ride all real fresh in mind....
Next up is does anyone ever bother to read the local laws, laws are stupid and barely addequet with easy shit like walking around or driving or owning property..... Drug laws are absolutely bizarre... Here you could have 10000 plants and it's less jail time than 20kg dry I think around.there are also many guidelines as to mandatory minimums and non incarcerable offences.... All plant number based for the most part. That is why in the day all the guys that did big stuff did huge trees, because under 20 plants was a no jail time offence.... 200 is mandatory jail time.... If your proven guilty...which brings me to my next point....
K guys this is a big one, and I know for a fact that this in my mind is the worst part about online weed communities is the closet growers. I'm not saying this in its self is bad, I fuckin love closet growers they are the most passionate inventive truly in it for the glory growers I ever saw! And I truly mean that, BUT the shit gets bent when people use that as a divide from common sense and safety of self.
Basically what I mean is people ripping on going bigger, saying its about the money or its lost passion ect, and this can be partly true.... But that closet is the test, it's the measure of whether one can handle the stress of growing and enjoy the companionship of plants..after that I see it as putting your self at undue risk with the reward of pride of achievement and free high quality(hopefully) smoke.....
But we are at a transition here folks, big business is going to take the thing we all love and fuck that shit up for all future like they did tobacco, in my mind if you are suitable for the stress and lifestyle to grow plants for the pride smoke reward at little $ reward, you should take steps to really, no really think about what you would do if it all came down around you.
Also think of steps you could take to make things safer and better for you, your family, your plants. We're all in it together, and the more honest you are with yourself the more you can provide security to those you love.
It really hit home to me a while back on the forum here, there was some poor soul who had a few plants in a small closet style grow, and was upset because he had "never sold any flowers to anyone" and now faced some pretty serious problems with his home situation and his whole future if he doesn't figure out a lot of missing things before trial day....
The whole problem stemmed from IMO just taking the wrong approach, it's easy to do, basically the person though that all other people came from the same place he did in his mind... So from the get go a bad start. He told his room mate because of pride/proximity which then put his fate outside of his own hands, the room mate got in trouble or talked because of cool factor, cops did what they felt was right/got good points from work and it was easy, fell in their lap, they intimidated the OP with no police work or actual evidence to "do the right thing" and let them in with out warrant, then played against compassion/fear to get a guilty admission so the crown prosecutor has an easy time and the whole thing is easy peasy.... Really brought the whole movement forward no.... Yeah that's what I thought too...
Even with licences, if it's dictated by plant # , how are you not doing more for the plant, yourself, your safety and ability to help the planet, and those you love than if you make a conscious choice to constantly improve your position. And I'm not talking buying a blinged out ride and doin lines off fake titties.... I'm talking researching laws, finding responsible brokers, using renewable resources and knowlage to make better product at less risk and a higher return, and using that extra bit for safety and to keep going forward.
Ok so let's say right now your smoking a big joint in your apartment with a few home built LED tents and about 50+ plants, and there's a knock at the door.... Yeah sucks right.didnt think of that part, seen it happen sooooo many times to the nicest most hard working honest people.... And yet that shit coke huffin, Robbin stealing degenerate down the way gets off with every thing.... Well when your in the system you learn it and its weaknesses.... For any criminal or even grey area unlawful if the big C word offends you(j walkers are technically criminals too) the biggest asset you can have is knowledge and acknowlagment of your actions.... All of them, second straight up is $.... OJ proved it, as many have before. But if you are aware of your actions and rights, and acknowledge the repercussions and have the money to play, it's way easier to do the right thing.... For you, the plants, the planet and the ones you love.... Not do all the work for the pork chop cop knocking on your door with no warrant and his crown prosecutor buddy..... If you say anything other than please leave my property unless you have a warrant, and recording of name and badge # to let him know your not a victim.....your lawyer will be adding a hefty $ to every other word you say and calling you an idiot....
The only other thing I'm going to suggest if this is a passion of yours is to asses your stereo type and learn how to use it. Some say it's bad or tragic, but through the thousands of years of evolution or best asset that we all have to some degree instinctually is our ability to profile and judge.... I know sounds bad in our "progressive" world, we'd come so far,lol... But if you walk down a dark street alone with 50k in your pocket trust me you'll be living judgment,lol
Anyways point being we all have this, you, me your niegbors, the police, the guy down the road with no job watching some crime hero TV marathon..... Ya see where I'm going here....
On a bad day to the wrong person I am the scariest long haired slovenly metal skid white trash piece of shit they ever saw,lol but as a plus side if I chuck on some campy outdoor stuff I look like every other straight edge granola eating yuppie white bread plain as Sunday TV person walking around, so I drive VW and wear Teva shoes and try to wear colour,lol I can still crank slayer as I drive around lookin like a geek little fuck during daytime hrs doing my personal shit. Drive right past a cop doin 10 over the speed limit smokin a joint and they don't even turn their head, where as if I dressed metal and drove a blacked out mustang or a 70's van with murals of dragons and shit I might be getting some different attention....
Anyways this rants is getting long and preachey, I actually don't care what you all wanna do, but if you lay it all out I think you'll make better choices and at least hopefully save yourself those realling dizzying moments of utter despair when it goes sideways...maybe do 10% profit... 45% back to grow and safety and 45% to expenses and a fricken Lawyer fund!
Partners can be an asset but are definitely a risk, workers can be an asset but also more definitely a risk, grow stores, big hydro bills, driving with anything, ect ect it all is a balance of what you need/want to get done, and the risk you put yourself under doing it.
The funniest shit I've ever seen has been in these last couple years of pseudo legality.... I was in my buddies store, and there was a guy we know, shameless really got a lot of licences going to cancer meetings picking up clients, greasy... Anyways dude slangs other stuff and has probably 20+ lic. And hundreds bulbs telling us he has his home show wired to the pigs, sorry police... My buddy just rips him a strip, but he'd honestly never thought of it. If your put rippers in jail, then get caught selling grey area legal weed in a non legal fashion guess who gets to join their friend in jail after he's settled in nice made some friends ect....
Same with any out of the house activity if you grow/smoke at home, write a list, was up, clothes right out of dryer with scent sheet, choose good hours, get it all done fast efficient, or wear real work clothes ect. For big bills do multiple deposits to atm then pay online, or pay through money mart to avoid trail, better yet create business accounts and cooperate holdings...
Huge thing I heard from some crusty old bikers is just don't fuckin be goin out after 6 pm... I can hear it now.... The only fuckin people driving around past dark is the three C's...... Oh yeah who's that I ask..... Cops, cabbies and criminals..... It's true, not because it is but because if it comes down to it the can make it true.... Legal yeah ok but but when you get yanked all pie eyed white your midnight frosty, driving the blinged out whip you got with your last good pull, and they ask if they might take a look ..... Did you remember all the hose clamps and grow store receipts... Is your whip insured to your grow, does your name raise flags..... Even if none of that your name, your face, your ride all real fresh in mind....
Next up is does anyone ever bother to read the local laws, laws are stupid and barely addequet with easy shit like walking around or driving or owning property..... Drug laws are absolutely bizarre... Here you could have 10000 plants and it's less jail time than 20kg dry I think around.there are also many guidelines as to mandatory minimums and non incarcerable offences.... All plant number based for the most part. That is why in the day all the guys that did big stuff did huge trees, because under 20 plants was a no jail time offence.... 200 is mandatory jail time.... If your proven guilty...which brings me to my next point....
K guys this is a big one, and I know for a fact that this in my mind is the worst part about online weed communities is the closet growers. I'm not saying this in its self is bad, I fuckin love closet growers they are the most passionate inventive truly in it for the glory growers I ever saw! And I truly mean that, BUT the shit gets bent when people use that as a divide from common sense and safety of self.
Basically what I mean is people ripping on going bigger, saying its about the money or its lost passion ect, and this can be partly true.... But that closet is the test, it's the measure of whether one can handle the stress of growing and enjoy the companionship of plants..after that I see it as putting your self at undue risk with the reward of pride of achievement and free high quality(hopefully) smoke.....
But we are at a transition here folks, big business is going to take the thing we all love and fuck that shit up for all future like they did tobacco, in my mind if you are suitable for the stress and lifestyle to grow plants for the pride smoke reward at little $ reward, you should take steps to really, no really think about what you would do if it all came down around you.
Also think of steps you could take to make things safer and better for you, your family, your plants. We're all in it together, and the more honest you are with yourself the more you can provide security to those you love.
It really hit home to me a while back on the forum here, there was some poor soul who had a few plants in a small closet style grow, and was upset because he had "never sold any flowers to anyone" and now faced some pretty serious problems with his home situation and his whole future if he doesn't figure out a lot of missing things before trial day....
The whole problem stemmed from IMO just taking the wrong approach, it's easy to do, basically the person though that all other people came from the same place he did in his mind... So from the get go a bad start. He told his room mate because of pride/proximity which then put his fate outside of his own hands, the room mate got in trouble or talked because of cool factor, cops did what they felt was right/got good points from work and it was easy, fell in their lap, they intimidated the OP with no police work or actual evidence to "do the right thing" and let them in with out warrant, then played against compassion/fear to get a guilty admission so the crown prosecutor has an easy time and the whole thing is easy peasy.... Really brought the whole movement forward no.... Yeah that's what I thought too...
Even with licences, if it's dictated by plant # , how are you not doing more for the plant, yourself, your safety and ability to help the planet, and those you love than if you make a conscious choice to constantly improve your position. And I'm not talking buying a blinged out ride and doin lines off fake titties.... I'm talking researching laws, finding responsible brokers, using renewable resources and knowlage to make better product at less risk and a higher return, and using that extra bit for safety and to keep going forward.
Ok so let's say right now your smoking a big joint in your apartment with a few home built LED tents and about 50+ plants, and there's a knock at the door.... Yeah sucks right.didnt think of that part, seen it happen sooooo many times to the nicest most hard working honest people.... And yet that shit coke huffin, Robbin stealing degenerate down the way gets off with every thing.... Well when your in the system you learn it and its weaknesses.... For any criminal or even grey area unlawful if the big C word offends you(j walkers are technically criminals too) the biggest asset you can have is knowledge and acknowlagment of your actions.... All of them, second straight up is $.... OJ proved it, as many have before. But if you are aware of your actions and rights, and acknowledge the repercussions and have the money to play, it's way easier to do the right thing.... For you, the plants, the planet and the ones you love.... Not do all the work for the pork chop cop knocking on your door with no warrant and his crown prosecutor buddy..... If you say anything other than please leave my property unless you have a warrant, and recording of name and badge # to let him know your not a victim.....your lawyer will be adding a hefty $ to every other word you say and calling you an idiot....
The only other thing I'm going to suggest if this is a passion of yours is to asses your stereo type and learn how to use it. Some say it's bad or tragic, but through the thousands of years of evolution or best asset that we all have to some degree instinctually is our ability to profile and judge.... I know sounds bad in our "progressive" world, we'd come so far,lol... But if you walk down a dark street alone with 50k in your pocket trust me you'll be living judgment,lol
Anyways point being we all have this, you, me your niegbors, the police, the guy down the road with no job watching some crime hero TV marathon..... Ya see where I'm going here....
On a bad day to the wrong person I am the scariest long haired slovenly metal skid white trash piece of shit they ever saw,lol but as a plus side if I chuck on some campy outdoor stuff I look like every other straight edge granola eating yuppie white bread plain as Sunday TV person walking around, so I drive VW and wear Teva shoes and try to wear colour,lol I can still crank slayer as I drive around lookin like a geek little fuck during daytime hrs doing my personal shit. Drive right past a cop doin 10 over the speed limit smokin a joint and they don't even turn their head, where as if I dressed metal and drove a blacked out mustang or a 70's van with murals of dragons and shit I might be getting some different attention....
Anyways this rants is getting long and preachey, I actually don't care what you all wanna do, but if you lay it all out I think you'll make better choices and at least hopefully save yourself those realling dizzying moments of utter despair when it goes sideways...maybe do 10% profit... 45% back to grow and safety and 45% to expenses and a fricken Lawyer fund!