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Old 04-12-2018, 03:15 AM #21
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I would be surprised if the op was not sincere. Everybody IS different and their metabolism is different. I've read many similar stories coming from people on sites that help people with withdrawal symtoms. There are many such stories and many people do have a difficult time when they stop using marijuana. This is not at all an unusual story.
I've never used nearly as much a day as you so I can't relate to that. I've always tried to be a moderate user .5 a gram to a gram a day with several days a week where I don't use at all so I don't build up a tolerance. I've had to stop using for a few weeks due to work requirements and I had some sleep and mood problems for a couple of weeks. I also miss it very much because I love it.
Best wishes to the OP and I hope you can get back to a point of moderate use and are able to enjoy it once again. Good luck.
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I have been using cannabis on and off...I really can't believe this is cannabis withdrawal.
What you are experiencing is very real and actually pretty common.
Crazy how people will try to minimize your reality based on their anecdotal experiences.
Not sure why they have to jump to extremes and compare to opiates.
Pretty pointless.

Common withdrawal symptoms:
Problems Sleeping
Anxiety
Weakness
Sweating
Restlessness
Dysphoria, a feeling of general unease or dissatisfaction
Craving for resumed cannabis use
Nausea
Stomach pain

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414724/

Sometimes can take a couple months to feel "normal" again.
Hang on, drink and eat well. Work up a sweat daily.
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What you are experiencing is very real and actually pretty common.
Crazy how people will try to minimize your reality based on their anecdotal experiences.
Not sure why they have to jump to extremes and compare to opiates.
Pretty pointless.

Common withdrawal symptoms:
Problems Sleeping
Anxiety
Weakness
Sweating
Restlessness
Dysphoria, a feeling of general unease or dissatisfaction
Craving for resumed cannabis use
Nausea
Stomach pain

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414724/

Sometimes can take a couple months to feel "normal" again.
Hang on, drink and eat well. Work up a sweat daily.
i have got to say i had a school friend that was exactly the same as OP described...he wouldn't need much...just a couple of days toking then when he stopped he copped it...if he kept smoking he was fine
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:45 PM #24
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414724/

Sometimes can take a couple months to feel "normal" again.
Well your article says "return to normal functioning within 4 weeks of abstinence", so are you or your source incorrect? A couple weeks and a couple months are very different time frames and there is no other substance that has that kind of variability in the duration of withdrawal symptoms.
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There's some pretty harsh words in here for someone sharing their personal experiences.

Glad you're out and doing OK, 'hawk.

I had a former friend in the Yukon Territory 40 years ago who couldn't smoke pot/hash, as when he did, he had what he described as anxiety, and "1,000 racing thoughts in the time it took (him) to take a single step walking down the side-walk." Sounded like living Hell to me.

He was sincere, though his experience reminded me of much heavier drug experiences I'd had, and nothing matching my lengthy cannabis and hash history. None the less, I respected his issues, and stopped offering him a puff.

The 1999 Golden Anniversary Merck Manual cited a (approximately) 10% addiction rate in cannabis users, per their research/review of studies, though, admittedly, long gone are the days of differentiating between physical addiction and psychological addiction; there's BIG money in drug treatment and 'recovery,' much of which (though not all) I regard as snake oil and placebo outcomes related to 'mind over matter' results. Psychologically out-sourcing our own power and ability for our successes.

I'll add that the Merck Manual, in its time, when we were faced repeatedly with Government and others' hype and bullshit in our legalization efforts, was one of the more kind and fair-minded sources among the mainstream publications for us.

That outa' the way, it's been my understanding that for some/many chronic users of psycho-active canna products, sleep disruption (often lasting about 2 weeks or so) and some amount of irritability, can be outcomes during abstaining after an extended time using.

I suffer routine dyssomnia, so I wouldn't know. I'm up several times each night no matter what. Probably for the last 40-50 years or more.

OP, I hope your discomforts wane in the coming time ahead.

Some people die from peanut butter, nuts, and milk, too. But those items haven't typically been politicized and used to destroy persons' families and lives the way the Drug War has used cannabis, so when someone types, "Peanut butter nearly killed me," they don't get jumped all over and accused of dishonesty.

A little diplomacy, understanding and patience might save our species and planet..... Or not.
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I've been on opiates for 8 years medical cannabis only thing that works 😊😊
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Only thing I have ever possibly experienced from quitting cannabis many times for jobs is not getting sleep. I've done it many times after heavy smoking for years on end daily. Weird post. Sounds like 'symptoms' no big deal though.
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I have been using cannabis on and off most of my adult life but have had decade long breaks. I got back into it around August last year and it started with weekly vapes and got to the stage where I was smoking 2-3 times daily up until last week.

That's the most I have ever had in my life. Months of 3-4 days daily vaping. I've had very mild irritability and cravings when I stopped for the one or two days that I was for work reasons.

I decided to stop because I was finding that I was having to vape ever larger amounts to get the effects I was after. Last week I had whole buds on 3 occasions in one day.

Anyway today is day 4 of withdrawal and my symptoms were at a peak this morning. They start mainly yesterday with headache of a tension type that migrated round the head and was mainly above and around the eyes. I have had 2 nights of insomnia and last night barely slept 3 hours.

I woke with the ongoing headache in temples and forehead and a feeling of numbness and tingling in feet to the point I was fearing I had some other sort of disease but I am medically very well.

The headache feels like a hangover and doesn't respond to caffeine or tylenol really. I'm not sensitive to light.

I really can't believe this is cannabis withdrawal. I'm loathe at this point to have a bowl because I really want to clear it out of my system but I know that would definitely help work out whether it's withdrawal.

I'm drinking water and consuming calories and feel things are clearing now but the last 2 days have been terrible. Slight nauseous feelings at food and complete lack on any enjoyment of life and ordinary things.

I'm probably going to take this through another 2-3 days and from there on go back to microdosing like I was when I started in August last year. I'm surprised at the physical withdrawal I appear to be having. I thought maybe it's a viral pre-syndrome but it's pretty static and aside from the headache and mood being down there's not much more.

i can confirm what you are going through. had the same stuff only worse and went on for a long time. i couldn't sleep for about two weeks. had about 15 hours of sleep in those two weeks and it took many months till i could sleep more than 1,5 hours at a time.
it was hell. anxiety attacks, weight loss, pain etc.
strangely i never had the problem before, smoked for years and quit without problems, then one day...bammmm !!!

stopped for a few years after that and now smoke again, don't have any problems anymore can stop and nothing much happens besides irritability and a few days of depressed mood.

i can only give you the advise that you should not stop at once but taper off slowly if possible like with medication like anti depressants. slowly decrease amount
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and what also is important is to change the drugs you are using to minimize the risk of getting addicted to one substance.
if you have to increase the amount of a substance to get the same effect it is time to stop that substance for a while.
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