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Old 03-13-2019, 03:21 PM #1
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Thumbs up UN is coming around! WOW!

the United Nations Chief Executive Board (UNCEB) of 31 leading UN organizations (including the UN Office on Drugs and Crime), has endorsed a plan forward RE science based/health oriented drug policies- in essence, decriminalization. since so many countries "claim" that "we would LOVE to decrim/consider legalization, but our hands are tied by the UN treaties we signed", maybe now they have no political cover for their ignorance. (this was posted yesterday on "Marijuana Moment" by Kyle Jaeger.) many here say they want decrim instead of legalization; if drug testing for jobs was banned, i could see supporting that position. i'm not hard to get along with, i don't CARE what my wife says...
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:52 PM #2
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It's not the UN that's been the problem, it's that UN policy has been driven by the USA, UK, and other aggressively anti-drug governments and agencies. It's put countries that had a tolerant policy, Thailand, India, Columbia, Turkey, Lebanon, Morocco, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, the list is long, turn 180 because they're all poor developing countries that needed aid. Their governments were bribed by the DEA.

Let's take a moment to say a prayer for the king of Morocco, and the other authoritarian oligarchs that run the country, at least they had the balls to stand up to the UN. All the countries that had long cultural connections with cannabis that gave in and took the dirty money have payed a terrible price. Massive increase in crime and violence, prisons filled with sufferers, huge government and police corruption, in the worst cases decades of civil wars destroying their environment and society.

If the Moroccan government had given in can you imagine the mess it would be in right now? Civil war in the Rif Mountains from the 1960s on, a broken economy, cities filling with homeless hungry people. Hundreds of thousands of people displaced and slaughtered. In hindsight we see who made the right choice telling the UN and it's drug money to go to hell.
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It's not the UN that's been the problem, it's that UN policy has been driven by the USA, UK, and other aggressively anti-drug governments and agencies. It's put countries that had a tolerant policy, Thailand, India, Columbia, Turkey, Lebanon, Morocco, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, the list is long, turn 180 because they're all poor developing countries that needed aid. Their governments were bribed by the DEA.

Let's take a moment to say a prayer for the king of Morocco, and the other authoritarian oligarchs that run the country, at least they had the balls to stand up to the UN. All the countries that had long cultural connections with cannabis that gave in and took the dirty money have payed a terrible price. Massive increase in crime and violence, prisons filled with sufferers, huge government and police corruption, in the worst cases decades of civil wars destroying their environment and society.

If the Moroccan government had given in can you imagine the mess it would be in right now? Civil war in the Rif Mountains from the 1960s on, a broken economy, cities filling with homeless hungry people. Hundreds of thousands of people displaced and slaughtered. In hindsight we see who made the right choice telling the UN and it's drug money to go to hell.
... that right there sums it up! Further exacerbated that their interference is not solely based on this subject.
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many here say they want decrim instead of legalization

Blacks law dictionary says decrim and legalization are one and the same.
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Except that decriminalization is typically a policy change, not a change in the laws: as such, it can be reversed on a dime with enforcement roaring back.

Decriminalization is only the same as legalization if existing laws are removed from the books, rather than just being ignored.
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Except that decriminalization is typically a policy change, not a change in the laws: as such, it can be reversed on a dime with enforcement roaring back.

Decriminalization is only the same as legalization if existing laws are removed from the books, rather than just being ignored.
Exactly!! Nail on the head! Different interpretation w/ Black Law = generic statutes/laws.
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Blacks law dictionary says decrim and legalization are one and the same.
Nope. Same argument you presented in state legalization. It's not "one in the same".

Black Law refers to the basic standard elements or principles of law, which are generally known and free from doubt or dispute.

However, states, countries, the world has and will continue to challenge the old norms/statutes.
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Except that decriminalization is typically a policy change, not a change in the laws: as such, it can be reversed on a dime with enforcement roaring back.

Decriminalization is only the same as legalization if existing laws are removed from the books, rather than just being ignored.
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Exactly!! Nail on the head! Different interpretation w/ Black Law = generic statutes/laws.
Bingo!
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