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Old 01-17-2018, 06:45 PM #3701
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Native peat mixed with native topsoil (CEC 9), CEC 26-28 total. 8% OM.

In a bed with 36 square feet @ 1' depth ~ 270 gallons of soil, I get about 1.5 gallons runoff daily.

Spectrum.

Calphos, Fish Hyd and P acid for pH down in solution. Bone meal, crab and Calphos in the soil at initial remix.

I have been running this indoor bed just for fun...I finally ran my numbers and this is what I got...not what I was expecting.
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Native peat mixed with native topsoil (CEC 9), CEC 26-28 total. 8% OM.

In a bed with 36 square feet @ 1' depth ~ 270 gallons of soil, I get about 1.5 gallons runoff daily.

Spectrum.

Calphos, Fish Hyd and P acid for pH down in solution. Bone meal, crab and Calphos in the soil at initial remix.

I have been running this indoor bed just for fun...I finally ran my numbers and this is what I got...not what I was expecting.
Is that calphos the feed grade stuff? It goes into solution?

So all those numbers where you are adding P. That P is from the Calphos in solution? Or are you summing the bone meal, etc? Is there any P at all in the Fish?

Where did you take the ending sample from? What depth?

P acid dosis would be very low, no?
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Regular old powdered Calphos. A 100 micron filter is used on the final solution after coming out of the vortex brewer.

I used BM, crab and calphos to build soil P initially. No more topdressing after that. The feed solution has fish hyd. 2-3-1, calphos 0-3-0 and P acid 85%. I use so little P acid I forgot to even factor it in.

Samples taken at 5"-8". At the end of each cycle i take a new sample,same depth, same method. 1 plug sample/sqft and then mix and pull sample quantity needed.

You don't run calphos or BM that has been pre-digested through your irrigation?

I will get the lab #'s.
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Regular old powdered Calphos. A 100 micron filter is used on the final solution after coming out of the vortex brewer.

I used BM, crab and calphos to build soil P initially. No more topdressing after that. The feed solution has fish hyd. 2-3-1, calphos 0-3-0 and P acid 85%. I use so little P acid I forgot to even factor it in.

Samples taken at 5"-8". At the end of each cycle i take a new sample,same depth, same method. 1 plug sample/sqft and then mix and pull sample quantity needed.

You don't run calphos or BM that has been pre-digested through your irrigation?

I will get the lab #'s.
I use chicken manure compost and apply it by spreader in the field. All my irrigation is micro sprinkler, but I don't make teas for application via irrigation. I do make teas for foliar application though! Horsetail and other biodynamic type stuff. I don't have a good filter system at the farm, huge expense to upgrade it currently so can't do it this season either.
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I use chicken manure compost and apply it by spreader in the field. All my irrigation is micro sprinkler, but I don't make teas for application via irrigation. I do make teas for foliar application though! Horsetail and other biodynamic type stuff. I don't have a good filter system at the farm, huge expense to upgrade it currently so can't do it this season either.

Do you think that the gold content of the horse tail has any appreciable affects on cannabis?
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I use chicken manure compost and apply it by spreader in the field. All my irrigation is micro sprinkler, but I don't make teas for application via irrigation. I do make teas for foliar application though! Horsetail and other biodynamic type stuff. I don't have a good filter system at the farm, huge expense to upgrade it currently so can't do it this season either.
Same here... outside everything is broadcast that is heavy or sent through a wobbler if it is something like calphos in solution.

Indoors it is micro sprinklers for h2o and open .250 tubes for feeding, two systems.

Don't you have a pond for irrigation? With some digging and shaping, a little pipe...it could be the worlds biggest vortex brewer...lol

In all seriousness, I am trying that with an 18' diameter swimming pool/liner this spring...in ground 7,500 gallon brewer...
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Do you think that the gold content of the horse tail has any appreciable affects on cannabis?
There is half a ppm of gold in horsetail from some of the data out there. As well, some of it is loaded with manganese, zinc, iron and titanium, depending on where the plant was. However, consistently it has a huge quantity of silicon and calcium.
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There is half a ppm of gold in horsetail from some of the data out there. As well, some of it is loaded with manganese, zinc, iron and titanium, depending on where the plant was. However, consistently it has a huge quantity of silicon and calcium.
Yea, I know. I think the argument goes even though it's low ppm, it's large ionic radius makes it a significant player some how. I've heard that from biodynamic people. I like it for the silica content
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[quote=paradoxlost;8171630 Each 100 gallon nutrient mix was like 300 hundred dollars or something.[/QUOTE]

$300. for 100 gallons mixed res running GH ?
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$300. for 100 gallons mixed res running GH ?
Don't quote me on that price. It may have been closer to 150. I can't remember specifically. All I know is when they did tell me how much it was I was shocked and when the one dude there overflowed the res wit nutrients in it and wasted half the mix he was chastised beyond belief and the master grower had a serious conversation with me and the owner about firing him cause they couldn't afford doing that again.

I mean the whole grow had problems but each mix seemed excessively expensive
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