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Faultedground

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So Iv had this issue from about week 3 of all seeds started, they are after thought auto azure rocket, I have grown many autoflowers these included, but this run won't clean up..
I'm feeding with "beer wort" from spent grains for first 2 weeks from seed, ph to 6.5 I than feed with Alaska fish feet, and fox farms tiger bloom. I am in a closet for myself under 2 qb 120.
There are males in the room for purpose of breeding more seeds
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Faultedground

New member
So Iv had this issue from about week 3 of all seeds started, they are after thought auto azure rocket, I have grown many autoflowers these included, but this run won't clean up..
I'm feeding with "beer wort" from spent grains for first 2 weeks from seed, ph to 6.5 I than feed with Alaska fish feet, and fox farms tiger bloom. I am in a closet for myself under 2 qb 120.
There are males in the room for purpose of breeding more seeds
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=78430&pictureid=1893347
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=78430&pictureid=1893340
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=78430&pictureid=1893342
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=78430&pictureid=1893346

Ps it starts around week 2/3 as rust colored spots along the leave veins
 

aridbud

automeister
ICMag Donor
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Not sure if beer wort is any good.

Much too much of what you are feeding....beer wort (unfermented beer) Yikes! All the things you are throwing at it, yes, it's CPR time. Far too much nutrients/additives. If organic soil, use a good mix, but not overly loaded with extra additives to get you to bloom stage.

According to Farmer's Almanac:
Rust disease is caused by a fungal parasite that needs living plants to survive. Rust diseases occur most often in mild, moist conditions. Rust is spread by spores that are transferred from infected plants to healthy plants. ... Wet surfaces are also needed to cause infections.The pathogen is Puccinia rust fungus.

Treating rust fungus:
Be sure to dispose of these leaves. Do not compost them. Then treat your plant with a fungicide, such as neem oil. Continue to remove leaves and treat the plant until all signs of the plant rust are gone.

Sounds like it's exacerbated. Not sure if you can save them.

When growing autos, simple and uncomplicated is the best measure especially in seedling stage 2-4 weeks. In bloom stage use 1/2 of what is recommended every 2-3rd watering allowing to dry a bit in between. Rust as said is from over watering.

Azure Rocket is a very hardy plant when not exposed to possible toxins and fungus, optimal grow conditions.

Your explanation, clearly you over dosed the plants. Gulp! Hoping you can resolve, yet sounds serious. In all my years of photoperiod indoor grows (35+ yrs) and 12 -13 years of growing autos indoors, less is better, avoiding problems such as rust, PM, botrytis, etc.
 
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Faultedground

New member
I seems to miss interpreted. They are parent grains, after I make a batch for fermentation I make a light tea. I find it really helps with rooting, even on clones.
As far as rust disease my grow box is a metal locker. Used for 2 years is now deleloping actual iron rust, are they related?
I was thinking about slapping on a coat of paint.
 

Lester Beans

Frequent Flyer
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The pH of beer wort is very low. Runoff doesn't tell a whole lot but I would be interested to see where yours is at after using the beer wort.
 

Faultedground

New member
I seems to miss interpreted. They are parent grains, after I make a batch for fermentation I make a light tea. I find it really helps with rooting, even on clones.
As far as rust disease my grow box is a metal locker. Used for 2 years is now deleloping actual iron rust, are they related?
I was thinking about slapping on a coat of paint.

The pH of beer wort is very low. Runoff doesn't tell a whole lot but I would be interested to see where yours is at after using the beer wort.

You are right it comes in around 5.5 -5.8 but, I am thinking the enzymes from it are beneficial
 

Lost in a SOG

GrassSnakeGenetics
Well first id stop with the beer wort, which seems like a really stupid idea to me, as plants can hardly absorb ca at that pH can they. It will be in part a potassium/general salt toxicity if youve bound up all you Ca in the medium by pouring 5.5 beer wort through it.. thats my opinion anyway :2cents:
 
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aridbud

automeister
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Well first id stop with the beer wort, which seems like a really stupid idea to me, as plants can hardly absorb ca at that pH can they. It will be in part a potassium/general salt toxicity if youve bound up all you Ca in the medium by pouring 5.5 beer wort through it.. thats my opinion anyway :2cents:

Yep, too much as far as teas and other additives.
 

Faultedground

New member
Much too much of what you are feeding....beer wort (unfermented beer) Yikes! All the things you are throwing at it, yes, it's CPR time. Far too much nutrients/additives. If organic soil, use a good mix, but not overly loaded with extra additives to get you to bloom stage.

According to Farmer's Almanac:
Rust disease is caused by a fungal parasite that needs living plants to survive. Rust diseases occur most often in mild, moist conditions. Rust is spread by spores that are transferred from infected plants to healthy plants. ... Wet surfaces are also needed to cause infections.The pathogen is Puccinia rust fungus.

Treating rust fungus:
Be sure to dispose of these leaves. Do not compost them. Then treat your plant with a fungicide, such as neem oil. Continue to remove leaves and treat the plant until all signs of the plant rust are gone.

Sounds like it's exacerbated. Not sure if you can save them.

When growing autos, simple and uncomplicated is the best measure especially in seedling stage 2-4 weeks. In bloom stage use 1/2 of what is recommended every 2-3rd watering allowing to dry a bit in between. Rust as said is from over watering.

Azure Rocket is a very hardy plant when not exposed to possible toxins and fungus, optimal grow conditions.

Your explanation, clearly you over dosed the plants. Gulp! Hoping you can resolve, yet sounds serious. In all my years of photoperiod indoor grows (35+ yrs) and 12 -13 years of growing autos indoors, less is better, avoiding problems such as rust, PM, botrytis, etc.

Also this is affecting only the top of the main colas, the side branching seems unaffected, especial the fan leaves from side shoots
 

Faultedground

New member
Well first id stop with the beer wort, which seems like a really stupid idea to me, as plants can hardly absorb ca at that pH can they. It will be in part a potassium/general salt toxicity if youve bound up all you Ca in the medium by pouring 5.5 beer wort through it.. thats my opinion anyway :2cents:

I will be stop giving them the tea, but in my defense it's only 3 ml roughly at the time I drop seeds into ground per pot. I dought it made this issue.
 

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