40degsouth
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I think you're drawing a long bow hoping the exudates produced from the purslane will genetically alter the chemistry to induce the roots to update?? Or have l taken that the wrong way??
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40degsouth
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40degsouth
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Haliphites are cool, salt loving plants and they need it. Purslane is one!! I thought you were touching on it, sneakily droping the microphone.
My thoughts are that in a "perfect" system you can recycle all outputs but it's a bit like perpetual motion, it's got to slow down at some point.
I used to recycle all my materials but last year l intoduced a pathogen into my r&d with a green manure crop so now l can't. I learnt a lot about bio security after that.
You indoor guys are like crazy wizards mixing up potions and concoctions, making the sun go up and down..
Those aphids were probably worshiping you as their god bringing in more and more followers and sacrificing cannibis plants to their daity??
Cheers 40
My thoughts are that in a "perfect" system you can recycle all outputs but it's a bit like perpetual motion, it's got to slow down at some point.
I used to recycle all my materials but last year l intoduced a pathogen into my r&d with a green manure crop so now l can't. I learnt a lot about bio security after that.
You indoor guys are like crazy wizards mixing up potions and concoctions, making the sun go up and down..
Those aphids were probably worshiping you as their god bringing in more and more followers and sacrificing cannibis plants to their daity??
Cheers 40
40degsouth
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Im pretty sure boron can become very toxic very quickly. From memory, worms won't live in a soil with elevated levels. I think it probably irritates their skin or guts.
YukonKronic
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Bromes biggest benefit was that it’s convenient 
There was a bag of seed kicking around so I used some.
Truthfully it’s purpose is the deep roots and ability to host beneficial mycorrhizal fungi.
I noticed my cannabis plants were creating roots that only penetrate about 10 inches down. Upon researching I found that clones do not form deep reaching tap roots instead focusing on laterally growing root systems.
This meant the lower reaches of my soil were not much utilized creating a need for something else to “mine” those soils and cycle their nutrients up to the more active layers.
Brome. It’s there. You know your lazy.. juuust doooo iiiit.
There was a bag of seed kicking around so I used some.
Truthfully it’s purpose is the deep roots and ability to host beneficial mycorrhizal fungi.
I noticed my cannabis plants were creating roots that only penetrate about 10 inches down. Upon researching I found that clones do not form deep reaching tap roots instead focusing on laterally growing root systems.
This meant the lower reaches of my soil were not much utilized creating a need for something else to “mine” those soils and cycle their nutrients up to the more active layers.
Brome. It’s there. You know your lazy.. juuust doooo iiiit.
YukonKronic
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mwaahahahaaa!!! Don’t encourage me.No I didn’t realize that about Purslane that makes me want to get more of it going as there is some salt in the volcanic ash I occasionally apply..
I use the canna mulch at early or mid stretch so there’s a ready supply of cannabis balanced nutrients coming into budset.
I don’t think the exudates are altering anything but soil I just think weed will steal some if they’re there and I’m cool with my plants begging borrowing OR stealing to get ahead. Mycorrhizae could also facilitate transfer among host plants... there is amazing shit being proven out in the forests of the world and I’m optimistic that cannabis has some abilities to “trade” nutrition through mycorrhizal networks.
I’m aware of B toxicity and am using it in very small amounts on large soil volume with intense biological activity and over an extended period of peak demand... The cover crops and biota are good indicators of any toxic conditions building up and I run at 26C with 30% or lower humidity so there’s lots of water moving through the soil to flush it through as soon as I stop application.. I was really worried about it too before even buying Borax because I don’t want to kill my organic thing with chems and because it’s easy to fuck these things up... I’m hoping my plan will continue working but as I said earlier I do need to get real soil numbers sometime.
I doubt I’ll have confidence to keep adding B more than a couple cycles in a row before leaving it out for a few. So far I’m halfway through second cycle like this and it’s looking pretty good... next run will need considering..
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40degsouth
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Preaching to the converted mate!!
What's heavier, an acher of hemp or an acher of forest!!
Haliphites can be eaten but you need to cook them first. They're not good for gout but hold all the nutrients......a bit like kelp.... wink, wink.
What's heavier, an acher of hemp or an acher of forest!!
Haliphites can be eaten but you need to cook them first. They're not good for gout but hold all the nutrients......a bit like kelp.... wink, wink.
40degsouth
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I've trialed straight sea water as a fertiliser and fungicide this year, good results.
Companion planting, just got to work out which plants.
Companion planting, just got to work out which plants.
40degsouth
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I parked my broom in the corner. It's a noxious weed here.
I would've thought your plants would use the whole container?? How big is it??
The benefits you've gained with fungal development might not be worth it with the competition??
I would've thought your plants would use the whole container?? How big is it??
The benefits you've gained with fungal development might not be worth it with the competition??
YukonKronic
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It’s about a square meter but also 15 or 16 inches deep... if I veg long enough to get giant rootballs then I outgrow my vertical space so I go for higher plant numbers with less roots and scrog them... empty space in my soil should be full of roots IMO... the cannabis competes pretty well I just chop the brome and let it be mulch.
My plants go from solo cups into the flower box most times and then get a couple or three weeks to get established and fill the canopy before flipping.. that’s why I want to plug them into a productive soil full of roots and fungi that they can hijack from as much as possible...
My plants go from solo cups into the flower box most times and then get a couple or three weeks to get established and fill the canopy before flipping.. that’s why I want to plug them into a productive soil full of roots and fungi that they can hijack from as much as possible...
Hey Yukon! Your discussion of using Purslane as a cover crop has me intrigued. Years ago, I grew Golden Purslane as a salad crop, and I recall it having a pleasant flavor that was a nice addition to a "Mesclun" style salad made from arugula, baby lettuces and baby greens. I just ordered some seed.
Are you using wild purslane, or a cultivar?
Are you using wild purslane, or a cultivar?
SolarLogos
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I'm in
Yukon, very interesting and I'm always up to learn something new. Second, you were trippin on Zam when you wrote those first 4 posts in 9 minutes, that is speed typing and a pretty speedy mind, I love it! Plus very in depth. Must be good stuff
Peace, God bless my friend.
Yukon, very interesting and I'm always up to learn something new. Second, you were trippin on Zam when you wrote those first 4 posts in 9 minutes, that is speed typing and a pretty speedy mind, I love it! Plus very in depth. Must be good stuff
Peace, God bless my friend.
YukonKronic
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Your close!
It was GT.
I was on my phone too. Lol near genius verbal cognition has a few benefits I guess...
It was GT.
I was on my phone too. Lol near genius verbal cognition has a few benefits I guess...
YukonKronic
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Hey Cowboy good to see you dropping by! I just used seeds bought at Canadian tire.... lol I actually was eating it too. I liked the idea more than its results in practice bore out. It’s slowly dying out in my box... too much shade I think.
YukonKronic
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Random thought that I bet some of you would like: Use Auto Zamaldelica to create an Auto flowering Purple Satellite.I’m pretty interested in making this a project but it would take so much time and space I kinda hope *someone* else does it first. Even if it took less than four years it’s faster and probably better selections than I could manage.
Lol what a poorly worded plea..... PLEASE Dubi. Please.
Pretty please?
Nahhhhh it’s kewl.. I know your busy. I was just... you know.. dreaming
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SolarLogos
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Yukon, I like the idea of using what is available in our own region. Here is something I stumbled upon by accident. I purchased some bags of compost last year as I needed some filler for one of my garden beds. I purchased it from (of all places) Ace Hardware. It is really topsoil with lots of sawdust mixed in. I let it winter over and this is what I found:
Whatever mushrooms in our area popped up all over the bed and there is now living mycelium, solid from corner to corner and about an inch thick, very solid. I'm thinking if I want to put one in the ground next year and grow another tree, I can prepare the ground and my soil, toss more Ace Hardware compost over it and in spring, plant my seeds.
Here is something you might be interested in, or already know, but: Comfrey (taken from wikipedia)
There are various ways in which comfrey can be used as a fertilizer. These include:
Great thread Yukon, hope we can keep it going.
Peace, God bless
Whatever mushrooms in our area popped up all over the bed and there is now living mycelium, solid from corner to corner and about an inch thick, very solid. I'm thinking if I want to put one in the ground next year and grow another tree, I can prepare the ground and my soil, toss more Ace Hardware compost over it and in spring, plant my seeds.
Here is something you might be interested in, or already know, but: Comfrey (taken from wikipedia)
There are various ways in which comfrey can be used as a fertilizer. These include:
- Comfrey as a compost activator – include comfrey in the compost heap to add nitrogen and help to heat the heap. Comfrey should not be added in quantity as it will quickly break down into a dark sludgy liquid that needs to be balanced with more fibrous, carbon-rich material.
- Comfrey as a mulch or side dressing – a two-inch layer of comfrey leaves placed around a crop will slowly break down and release plant nutrients; it is especially useful for crops that need extra potassium, such as fruit bearers but also reported to do well for potatoes. Comfrey can be slightly wilted before application optionally but either way, avoid using flowering stems as these can root.
- Comfrey as a companion plant for trees and other perennials – soil tests confirm that soil nutrients increase in the presence of comfrey even when it is not used as mulch, side dressing, or liquid fertilizer, but just allowed to grow.
- Comfrey potting mixture – originally devised to utilize peat, now environmental awareness has led to a leaf mold-based alternative being adopted instead; two-year-old, well decayed leaf mold should be used, this will absorb the nutrient-rich liquid released by the decaying comfrey. In a black plastic sack alternate 7–10 cm (2.8–3.9 in) layers of leaf mold and chopped comfrey leaves. Add a little dolomitic limestone to slightly raise pH. Leave for between 2–5 months depending on the season, checking that it does not dry out or become too wet. The mixture is ready when the comfrey leaves have rotted and are no longer visible. Use as a general potting compost, although it is too strong for seedlings.
Great thread Yukon, hope we can keep it going.
Peace, God bless
YukonKronic
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Hey Sol cool find! Mushroom compost and mycelium are really good soil conditioners... I ordered comfrey seeds but didn’t get the sterile kind so I’ve been afraid to plant them lest they become invasive.
The Yukon is experiencing climate change faster than anywhere else in the world with our average winter temperatures increasing something like 5 degrees C since 1948 so I’m really worried about causing further damage than the changes I’m already seeing.
Now that you mention it I should order some bocking 14 and try the non invasive one out. I do have a strong interest in helping some loved ones in conditioning soils at their farm...
The Yukon is experiencing climate change faster than anywhere else in the world with our average winter temperatures increasing something like 5 degrees C since 1948 so I’m really worried about causing further damage than the changes I’m already seeing.
Now that you mention it I should order some bocking 14 and try the non invasive one out. I do have a strong interest in helping some loved ones in conditioning soils at their farm...
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YukonKronic
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Needs more pics.
Here’s Bud porn of TripNorth F3 pollenated by both the ZamBx TN and the F3 male selected from among his sisters...
Here’s that flower box about a week before flip.. there’s also BKxPCK Night Nurse (non ACE... shhhh) and ZamxPurps in there..
And because I remembered it was there here’s a pic of mother of F3 TripNorth
Here’s Bud porn of TripNorth F3 pollenated by both the ZamBx TN and the F3 male selected from among his sisters...
Here’s that flower box about a week before flip.. there’s also BKxPCK Night Nurse (non ACE... shhhh) and ZamxPurps in there..
And because I remembered it was there here’s a pic of mother of F3 TripNorth
YukonKronic
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Bubba Kush x Pakistan Chitral Kush... some shots week before flower and just before 5 weeks
YukonKronic
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This about 6 weeks from flip.
Here’s Night Nurse at same time... might cross this to pinky and see if I get something even better for relaxation and sleep.
Here’s Night Nurse at same time... might cross this to pinky and see if I get something even better for relaxation and sleep.
