Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

Porky82 said:

Because they are fucking ignorant poorly educated idiots that's why. Fuck half of em can't even string a coherent sentence together let alone understand that human activity is destroying the entire planet!

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I don't think the planet gives two fucks what we "humans" do, it will still be here long after the last "human" croaks it.

Wind towers, solar panels, electric vehicle's and plant based fuels will cause far more damage to the environment than anything else "humans" do.

Finepointcanon said:

Record-breaking events do not happen so often in a stable system.

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Bang on post fella

I can remember when these record events first started happening, reported on the news.

I was amazed at the frequency of these record weather events , hurricanes and cyclones. Went from yearly, to twice annually, virtually every month to weekly, then daily.

Finepointcanon said:

more to the point, why on Earth can't we, on a website devoted to the love of a plant that our fragile species plucked out of the wild green nature, just agree that yeah, we should preserve nature in as close to it's natural form as we can

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Totally agree. It disgusts me to see the amount of waste my own family produces and we care about the planet and nature.

Seems the govt and big corps don't really give a fock, same as younguns who want bubble focking teas and kfcs

I actually studied environemtal sciences. While I had only passing grades on all other subjects. I had A’s in environmental sciences and marine sciences and I excelled in the studies. Not one day did my professor talk about carbon emissions being the end of the world.

Instead we focused on things that actually affect the health of ecosystems. Disruptions to the water cycle such as storm water run off. Contamination. Habitat destruction and ways to restore habitats. We grew and planted a ton of marsh grass where construction destroyed the coast line. That place we planted plugs is actually thriving now it’s coastal marsh grass instead of just some dumb man made beach destroyed by bridge construction.

Was just a ton of sand down by the water line 30 years ago.damaged by bridge construction.



It’s not about being young or dumb. It’s about being smart enough to know that there’s really nothing we can do if we focus on the problems that are beyond the horizon, nation away or untouchable.

The biological scientists… they’re not going to be talking about climate change.

If I could stop careless cunts from moving to the coast I would, but I don’t have any money to buy up every fucking coastal property in Florida to restore it.

Then we call these fucking hurricanes and tsunamis natural disasters, when in fact it’s a bunch of our shit littered all over the place. Only reason shit looks like a disaster areas is because there ain’t nothing but a bunch of fuckin building materials where there used to be fuckin plants and animals.

You can’t blame CO2 emissions for hurricanes or any other natural phenomenon unless you’ve successfully been hypnotized by the bullshit!

If you’re still that worried about it, breathe less.

I Care said:

I actually studied environemtal sciences. While I had only passing grades on all other subjects. I had A’s in environmental sciences and marine sciences and I excelled in the studies. Not one day did my professor talk about carbon emissions being the end of the world.

Instead we focused on things that actually affect the health of ecosystems. Disruptions to the water cycle such as storm water run off. Contamination. Habitat destruction and ways to restore habitats. We grew and planted a ton of marsh grass where construction destroyed the coast line. That place we planted plugs is actually thriving now it’s coastal marsh grass instead of just some dumb man made beach destroyed by bridge construction.

Was just a ton of sand down by the water line 30 years ago.damaged by bridge construction.

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It’s not about being young or dumb. It’s about being smart enough to know that there’s really nothing we can do if we focus on the problems that are beyond the horizon, nation away or untouchable.

The biological scientists… they’re not going to be talking about climate change.

If I could stop careless cunts from moving to the coast I would, but I don’t have any money to buy up every fucking coastal property in Florida to restore it.

Then we call these fucking hurricanes and tsunamis natural disasters, when in fact it’s a bunch of our shit littered all over the place. Only reason shit looks like a disaster areas is because there ain’t nothing but a bunch of fuckin building materials where there used to be fuckin plants and animals.

You can’t blame CO2 emissions for hurricanes or any other natural phenomenon unless you’ve successfully been hypnotized by the bullshit!

If you’re still that worried about it, breathe less.

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Hey that's awesome! We need more like you and your professor, working on practical solutions to realistic-scale problems.

I'm not sure about your last point though. Yeah, CO2 itself will not cause a hurricane, but nobody is saying that. CO2 affects the temperature of the planet, unevenly, through the greenhouse effect. Are you saying that temperature fluctuations and pressure gradients have nothing to do with developing weather phenomena? And that unnatural fluctuations in temperature caused by an excess of CO2, CH4 etc cannot affect weather systems?

I only have a cursory knowledge of weather, but I thought that hurricanes were caused by air and water temperature fluctuations?

As far as being hypnotized by BS, don't you think that the oil companies are pouring fortunes into making sure that a lot of people do not believe that their product causes damage to our home? What would the point be in a 'preserve the health of earth' propaganda campaign? What would the end-game be?

To me, changing technologies is a part of being human. If we need to stop burning oil (I mean...) who cares? As long as we develop a technology that serves the same general purpose while being less-damaging to the environment. I don't need a truck that goes vroom, it can go hummmm for all I care. It is a tool. I can live without mangoes from Costa-Rica and dates from Algeria in my grocery store in Michigan. I say this as someone who used to collect muscle-cars. Some things are more important.

If you, for some reason, do not believe that gas buildup in a closed system causes changes to weather and climate in that system, as someone who has studied environmental science and done great work in preserving coastlines you must be aware of the environmental disaster that is oil and gas extraction? This issue blends with the work that you've done, considering the general scientific consensus about what will happen to the Florida coastline in our lifetimes. I would link to the studies but there is a disappointing mistrust of science nowadays and I don't want to hear about how it's made up or fake just because someone doesn't like the results of the study. If you google it the info is all there.

arsekick said:

I don't think the planet gives two fucks what we "humans" do, it will still be here long after the last "human" croaks it.

Wind towers, solar panels, electric vehicle's and plant based fuels will cause far more damage to the environment than anything else "humans" do.

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This planet is not that big. You can circle it in 24 hours.

Well it depends, there is an idea that once we reach a certain point, permafrost will melt and carbon/methane which has been locked into the earth for eons will be released, causing a runaway heating event which has no end. Meaning that all life on the planet is actually at risk, not just humans.

Can you explain your second point, about how solar panels, wind turbines and plant-based fuels cause more damage than anything else that humans do? I'm not trying to argue with you, but if you can show us examples of what you mean when you said that, we can have a discussion where we both learn something.

Hmmm...this could be fun..