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Did I toast my seed sprouts?

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RenaissanceBrah

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I put my seeds directly into the wet paper towel method (in total-darkness), and put them on a low-heater.

For a few hours though I think I turned it up too high, and half of my seeds still haven't sprouted (after 5 days).

They're regular, more landrace-type seeds (Congo reg and Nepal Annapurna reg from Ace Seeds). Doesn't look like they've cracked at all.

Should I take them out of the wet paper towel, and put them in water, to see if they sink? Forgot to do that step first... *facepalm*
 
big315smooth

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i cooked a batch on accident once remember the seeds being squishy soggy almost. id throw em in soil n see what happens
 
Switcher56

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RenaissanceBrah said:
I put my seeds directly into the wet paper towel method (in total-darkness), and put them on a low-heater.

For a few hours though I think I turned it up too high, and half of my seeds still haven't sprouted (after 5 days).

They're regular, more landrace-type seeds (Congo reg and Nepal Annapurna reg from Ace Seeds). Doesn't look like they've cracked at all.

Should I take them out of the wet paper towel, and put them in water, to see if they sink? Forgot to do that step first... *facepalm*
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IME/O they're toast.

I soak for 18/24 hrs (mostly 18) sinking is not always a "good" indication wrt viability. After they have soaked, I place them in a moist PT in an unsealed baggy, in a cool (room temp) dark place. They germinate within 2 days. My latest bunch, none sank and all sprouted within 2 days.

That being said, I have had beans that didn't do diddly (even after scarification), and that is the beans fault, not how I go about it.
 
VerdantGreen

VerdantGreen

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If half of the seeds DID sprout, and they were all together on the heater.. then unlikely that you cooked them because, if so, none would have sprouted. (unless some got hotter than others which seems less likely)
Pure sativa seeds can take at least a week to germ.. so don't give up just yet.
Sinking or not sinking doesn't really tell you a lot either.


My method is to plant the seeds in soil and keep them moist and warm until germed. I may soak them for a few hours first.. i never pre-germinate them. Last batch i got 32 out of 32 germed and above soil.


VG
 
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RenaissanceBrah

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Switcher56 said:
IME/O they're toast.

I soak for 18/24 hrs (mostly 18) sinking is not always a "good" indication wrt viability. After they have soaked, I place them in a moist PT in an unsealed baggy, in a cool (room temp) dark place. They germinate within 2 days. My latest bunch, none sank and all sprouted within 2 days.

That being said, I have had beans that didn't do diddly (even after scarification), and that is the beans fault, not how I go about it.
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Thanks Switcher

Do you always scarify the beans?

At this point, after 6 days, should I just let them keep trying to germinate in the paper towel? Or transfer them all to 1 solo cup and see if anything pops out?

Don't want to give up hope yet on my babies
 
Switcher56

Switcher56

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RenaissanceBrah said:
Thanks Switcher

Do you always scarify the beans?

At this point, after 6 days, should I just let them keep trying to germinate in the paper towel? Or transfer them all to 1 solo cup and see if anything pops out?

Don't want to give up hope yet on my babies
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It depends on the seeds, some seeds are tiny compared to others and difficult to scarify. These days, I don't, unless I have had some seeds that didn't sprout. Then I will scarify (if possible) the next seed I try and germinate.

Wrt should I place them in dirt? At this point you have nothing to loose. Give it a whirl and best of luck.

FWIW, I have had beans that grew tails during the soak :) I once had a bean grow a 3/8" tail. That is abnormal AFAIC but goes to show the vibrancy of that particular lineage. However, most (when this happens) only have a tiny tail peeking out.
 
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RenaissanceBrah

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Switcher56 said:
It depends on the seeds, some seeds are tiny compared to others and difficult to scarify. These days, I don't, unless I have had some seeds that didn't sprout. Then I will scarify (if possible) the next seed I try and germinate.

Wrt should I place them in dirt? At this point you have nothing to loose. Give it a whirl and best of luck.

FWIW, I have had beans that grew tails during the soak :) I once had a bean grow a 3/8" tail. That is abnormal AFAIC but goes to show the vibrancy of that particular lineage. However, most (when this happens) only have a tiny tail peeking out.
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Thanks!

I took them out and plopped them into some soil... not expecting anything but if something pops out, great.

Tried your 18-24 hr soak method, then direct to soil with a Thai Chi from Ace Seeds... got 1 Nepal Annapurna from them left, going to try to germinate that one as well. Hoping this crop will be my first run at making seeds :)
 
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Double_Gulp420

I left mine on accident on a tv receiver with a pair of sweatpants and when I checkedthem with a infrared thermometer it said 110 i thought I was screwed but all of my beans popped now Im just waiting for 4 of the 6 to pop soil now! Let us know how yours turn out!
 
Switcher56

Switcher56

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Double_Gulp420 said:
I left mine on accident on a tv receiver with a pair of sweatpants and when I checkedthem with a infrared thermometer it said 110 i thought I was screwed but all of my beans popped now Im just waiting for 4 of the 6 to pop soil now! Let us know how yours turn out!
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Bet you won't be doing that again any time soon :)
 
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RenaissanceBrah

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Double_Gulp420 said:
I left mine on accident on a tv receiver with a pair of sweatpants and when I checkedthem with a infrared thermometer it said 110 i thought I was screwed but all of my beans popped now Im just waiting for 4 of the 6 to pop soil now! Let us know how yours turn out!
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Glad to hear they survived!

My Nepal seeds seem to have been duds from the get go... I started over with new ones, and they're still not sprouting, even though I did everything to a T and tried various methods.

The congo seeds I'm trying to save... doesn't look good, the idea of planting them in 50/50 worm castings and perlite was a bad idea... I transplanted to 1/1/1 compost / peat / pumice, hopefully they'll survive
 
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