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Not a stinker indoors or out....but certain pheno's have a nice bag/jar smell. I'm slowly falling in love with this hybrid.
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strains that can go from clone directly into flower and still yield HUGE !!!
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Not a stinker indoors or out....but certain pheno's have a nice bag/jar smell. I'm slowly falling in love with this hybrid.
H
headfortrinity
Glad to see so many people think the a k is suited for low veg time.
I've got an a k clone outside that I had vegged indoors for almost two weeks, It should be done in a couple months, and should do pretty good since it's in dwc.
here it is about 2 weeks outside in 12/12.
I've got an a k clone outside that I had vegged indoors for almost two weeks, It should be done in a couple months, and should do pretty good since it's in dwc.
here it is about 2 weeks outside in 12/12.
bostrom155
Active member
Whats the diff between greenhouses ISS and MrNice, i see GH has 5 pack's Fem for 60 bucks
daddy fingaz
Active member
we had a pheno of THseeds Heavy Duty fruity (Kerbdog cut) we nick named EHDF, E standing for EXTRA! this sh*t would through up buds everywhere, i swear it would grow calyx's on its roots if it could !!
we had a pheno of THseeds Heavy Duty fruity (Kerbdog cut) we nick named EHDF, E standing for EXTRA! this sh*t would through up buds everywhere, i swear it would grow calyx's on its roots if it could !!
Had? Did you lose her?
daddy fingaz
Active member
dont have her myself personally anymore, ran her a few times but im a personal grower and although nice and a big producer she was not a keeper for me, i do know sum of the more 'commercial' heads locally still run the cut though!
Ah, I understand. You gotta grow what helps you. I just thought maybe you lost her. I hear sad stories all the time about people losing cuts and regretting it all their growing days.
Dreamscape
Member
Was this from a cutting or san.nies -- seeds ??
Here is a Mandala #1 in a 2 gallon Smartpot, next to a 5 gallon bucket. She's over 2' tall now and was vegged only 1 week, should be a 2-3 ounce plant when she finishes in another 2 weeks or so. I can't imagine if she's vegged two weeks, I'd only be able to fit 4 of them in a 4X4. Even 8 of these in a 4X4 is getting crowded. Long live coco!
There's an expert SOG flood and drain table grower called GrowGreen from the old CW site that is now at the cabana, that ran 1000whps with LUI and managed 2lbs plus per table and light. And that's with the middle yielding pheno. LUI stretches into one giant cola with no veg time(about 6-8 inch clones) and when closely packed with lots of lumens yields huge with quality punch. Forgot to mention that once dialed in, that pheno was done at 45-48 days with a modified Lucas formula. it wouldn't pack any weight past those days, but would become stonier.
Dreamscape
Member
Legends Ultimate Indica is one strain I really haven't done much research on at all but I keep hearing amazing results with it over and over again ...
So , if i'm reading this right , he hit 1gpw !?
awesome
So , if i'm reading this right , he hit 1gpw !?
awesome
That was his record, as far as harvests per year and yield, GrowGreen and his LUI tables were hard to beat. The only problem with these type of SOG setups is plant #'s, off course. But one table is still cool. And that was with the middle yielding pheno, there was a bigger one that packed less punch and a small one that wouldn't strecth at all but was extremely frosty, I would imagine the short cristally one would be the ortega pheno. He tried experimenting with 600w and all kinds of different plant #'s, wattage, area, and Lucas variations.
This is a long copy and paste from his LUI grow on CW, no pics but many valuable tips for achieving over 2lbs in 60 days(from cutting clone) with his methods on a 3x3 table 1000whps , he actually flowered at 3-5 inches. He has a Chemdawd SOG going without veg right now at the cabana so you can check out how efficient this dude is,
Lui Sog
Posted by GrowGreen on February 8th, 2004 10:35 AM:
Up coming SOG.
LUI grown SOG style. 4- 3" clones per sq', Under 1000W HPS
3'x3' ebb/flow table. Pure Blend Pro Bloom.
Posted by GrowGreen on February 26th, 2004 08:11 AM:
GN
It is a combination of small sized plant put into flowering and light penetration.
Picking a clone donor that doesnt branch is a bonus. I have grown S.s/I. Crosses
this way with excellent results.
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 5th, 2004 09:26 PM:
mango
4 plants per sq' isn't far apart in my opinion.
I run 28 plants per table. (Best footprint for my reflector.)
Each plants yields from 36 to 42 grams.
This is done in 60 days total from clone cut to harvest.
They are flowered at 3 to 5 inches so they don't bush out and crowd
for light. The intensity of the light makes the 22' “flower” sticks.
Flowered at 8 inches on my table doesn't yield as much. Nor
does any more plants.
peace
GG
Posted by Mango on March 6th, 2004 04:47 PM:
GrowGreen, that's interesting. I wonder what Breeder Steve had in mind when he said that LUI does better when vegged to 8". Maybe you got an unusual pheno. Your yield is outstanding. That's about 5oz/sq. Ft. You must be getting three grams per watt. How many watts do you have per square foot? That much yield is hard to believe. I know a guy who can get 4oz per square foot from a couple of his 8 week moms (Heavy Duty Fruity and Hog), but he uses 75 watts per square foot and either uses more clones or he keeps them in veg until they reach more like 10-12".
Posted by GrowGreen on March 6th, 2004 08:32 PM:
mango
Breeder Steve for all I know is right. I don't let them grow to 8".
My math.
36 to 42 grams per plant .We will average this to 39 grams per plant
39 x 28(# of plants)= 1092 grams
In 9 sq' = 4.3 oz per sq'(121.3 gpsq')
My light footprint is 3'x3' I use a Cool
Sun Reflector with 1000w HPS Hort.
15" to 18" from canopy.
9 sq' = 111 wpsf. (125 wpsf works great)
So... 1092 grams per 1000W HPS
Posted by GrowGreen on March 7th, 2004 06:05 PM:
Mango
I tried it with 400mh,400hps,600hps, and 400mh/600hps in a dual spectrum reflector.
The 1000HPS wins every time. If I can find a dual spectrum reflector with 6" flanges,
I'll try a dual 600/600.
In my opinion several things together help in the Yields:
Genetics
Low Stress Environment (temps,humidity,food and water)
Light Intensity
TLC
Kiingbee
In my opinion 1 plant per sq' will not yield more than 4 plants per sq' with the same veg time.
Whether you top,scrog,LST,etc... Veg time is space and available light determined.
I used a light meter to map my reflectors best footprint. 3x3 @ 15" to 18" of reflector height
has the least lost of lumens.
From my experience:
9 plants in the 3x3 topped should yield the same as 9 single cola's.(more plants
more yield, 4 per sq') With the same veg time. If you top em, I would veg a little longer. Genetics
for bushy or single cola to consider also.
If you flip em at 3" they will only grow the main cola
In the above pic's the clones are 25" from the reflector. In 5 days I'll drop
it to 15" for the rest of the bloom cycle. This as long as plant leaf temps
remain at least 3 degrees below canopy ambient temps.
The “elevated” Light 100wpsf or greater doesn't leave alot of room for error or
equipment failure.
AN nutrients.
With the “elevated”er light you can get away with “elevated”er PPM of nutes.
There are 4 members here on CW that are soon going to test different Nute
formulas against AN “elevated” Yield Kit.(S--si Bloom A/B, Voodoo Juice, and Big “flower”)
All with different Hydroponics Styles(bubbler,e/f,modified e/f, and aero.) 3 of the tests
will be with the same Clone in different parts of North America.
If they wish to sound off on their grow, I'm sure they will soon.
Posted by GrowGreen on March 8th, 2004 04:53 PM:
kiingbee
Floranova Bloom (FloraLucas) is my preferred nute currently.
Never tried the Synergy, ceteris paribus uses it and he likes it.(is that a pic of Frank Zappa on the bottle?)
I like the GH Floralicious Bloom as a additive. The best product I've used so far. I use it with PBP and FloraLucas
Adds great “flower” aroma and trich production. Have used the Liquid Karma too, it left a film on everything.
I mix the Floranova per bottle instructions. To a ppm of 1330 or so. I don't baby my clones. After 20 days I bump the ppm up to 2000. Then add the Floralicious.
The PBP works as well, just have to add Cal/Mag to it.
Got your Cali-o/LUI beans today. They meet the wet paper towel this weekend. Should have a nice mom by the end of the summer. They look Great. Thanks
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 13th, 2004 06:39 PM:
A2Z
No flush, I tried it, lost yield and could not notice a taste difference. Not needed with the Lucas Formula, PBP, or FloraLucas.
Soil mix- search in soil and organics the dirt growers know all the soil mixes. What works and what doesnt.
I don't stick the 10 day clones into bloom. They get at least 10 days in p--s under 240 watts of Fluorescents to build roots. Then to the bloom room. Usually I get roots on clone cuts in 5 to 7 days, then they veg/root till my rotation time.
I grow mostly 50- 60 day strains. With CO2 and a stress free environment they finish in 40-45 days. Trich's cloudily with some amber.
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 19th, 2004 06:53 PM:
FlowerChild
I can change the harvest date (milky with some amber trichs) by increasing CO2 or cooler temps with a used, diluted res.+/- 5 to 10 days. The decrease in bloom days has a cost of lower yield. Most of the strains I grow normally finish in 50-60 days (per Seed Vender) I use the “elevated” light levels to insure the best light penetration. When you crowd the plants, what few fans you have need all the light available to make the fat “flower”s.
Remember this plant is a "Annual" genetically designed to live for one growing season.
>>Bye the way... What are u using to cover the hydron in the photo?<<<
Nothing covers the Hydroton.
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 19th, 2004 09:42 PM:
F
Yes I am driving them to finish early. They are not stressed. I'm no stranger to stressing them. I can sp-- a banana 25 feet away. Ever take IR temp readings on your plants? In relation to ambient temps?
Mine are fed according to Brix,Sap EC and Sap PH. All their needs are filled on schedule. Their p--ential is not exhausted, it's maximum in a shorter time frame.
I never broke the 2lb mark with the light intensity lower in the time frame I needed. I can lift the light, but it will only change the yield (lower)
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 27th, 2004 02:07 PM:
kb
Early on I trim some lower shoots. Only with the LUI, this strain likes to grow Christmas Tree style.
Top off is with ro water only. I only add nutes when the PH heads north. Usually around the 20 day mark. That's when I hit them with a good dose of Floralicious too.
I have the Cali-o clone, the mom is currently bulking up too donate some clones. Soon to run a SOG with Cali-o and C99 both gifts from a friend.
Posted by GrowGreen on April 10th, 2004 07:32 AM:
Thanks DD
I use the Hydroton clay balls (recycled for 3 years) This run also has Sunleaves new Silica Rock in the bottom of the p--s.
This table I use FloraNova(FloraLucas) Bloom, the other table uses PBP.
The PBP table (40 gal res) Starts with 10 oz of PBP. At the 20 day mark of bloom another 10 oz of PBP is added. Floralicious is also added at this time. 6 oz (1 tsp per gal) Adding it the last 2 weeks would still benefit your “flower”s. Floralicious is the only "snake oil" I have found that really works. I buy it by the gallon.. I have an old Big”flower” clone that never would get that frosty(trichs) Once she met the Floralicious she packed the crystals on.
Peace
GG
The Cal-Mag (per bottle dosage) is probably just a habit. I don't add it to the FloraLucas table.
Posted by GrowGreen on April 23rd, 2004 05:47 AM:
GN Thank you , Hows the new room coming?
DD the FloraLucas Bloom PH is stable after the Mix Settles. I adjust my RO water to 7.5 before adding the nutes. I like to stay around the 6.2 mark, so the bounce back in PH isnt a problem for me. PureBlendPro is a little more stable when first mixed..
Peace
GG
I will loose at least 20% without the CO2. I use CO2 to finish the plants early. So this run could and should have gone another 10 days. The 10 days longer would have made up the 20%.
Air movement and ventilation were the same as a CO2 enriched run. Lots of cool air being moved around. No air from outside.
The nute ppm level also had to be back down some without the CO2. I usually run PBP at 2000ppm and FloraLucas at 1800ppm. They couldnt handle the hot mix. The PBP table was @ 1500ppm and FloraLucas @ 1300ppm.
I use two separate 40 gal neuters tanks.
One is with PBP and one is FloraLucas.
Posted by GrowGreen on June 23rd, 2004 06:16 PM:
>>So GG, if you were to veg those babies under say, 111wpsqft <g>, for just 5 days (instead of the 10 post rooting days under 30wpsqft flo), you would have the beef to go to bloom even sooner.. And yield more! According to this untested math formula <g> <<
When I used 400w lamps on 2x4 tables, I would veg with a 400MH and bloom with 400HPS, but I ran a every two week
perpetual harvest. If I could light tight each of my current table I would try the 111 wpsqft veg. It would cut the veg/root time as you stated.
I think Ceteris could pull this off easier than I. I believe he uses bloom wattage to veg.
Wolf88
Yes I flower my clones at 3-5 inches, but different seeds/clones behave differently.
I invest some time into picking my clone donors. Some of my LUI finish at 18 inches,
another at 28 or 32. The finishing height also can be affected by the grow environment.
Most plants I have grown and flowered at 3 inches rarely grow over 26 inches unless I encourage
them.
36 grams dry is that the weight of just it main cola??????
One plant, dry sm---able product.
This is a long copy and paste from his LUI grow on CW, no pics but many valuable tips for achieving over 2lbs in 60 days(from cutting clone) with his methods on a 3x3 table 1000whps , he actually flowered at 3-5 inches. He has a Chemdawd SOG going without veg right now at the cabana so you can check out how efficient this dude is,
Lui Sog
Posted by GrowGreen on February 8th, 2004 10:35 AM:
Up coming SOG.
LUI grown SOG style. 4- 3" clones per sq', Under 1000W HPS
3'x3' ebb/flow table. Pure Blend Pro Bloom.
Posted by GrowGreen on February 26th, 2004 08:11 AM:
GN
It is a combination of small sized plant put into flowering and light penetration.
Picking a clone donor that doesnt branch is a bonus. I have grown S.s/I. Crosses
this way with excellent results.
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 5th, 2004 09:26 PM:
mango
4 plants per sq' isn't far apart in my opinion.
I run 28 plants per table. (Best footprint for my reflector.)
Each plants yields from 36 to 42 grams.
This is done in 60 days total from clone cut to harvest.
They are flowered at 3 to 5 inches so they don't bush out and crowd
for light. The intensity of the light makes the 22' “flower” sticks.
Flowered at 8 inches on my table doesn't yield as much. Nor
does any more plants.
peace
GG
Posted by Mango on March 6th, 2004 04:47 PM:
GrowGreen, that's interesting. I wonder what Breeder Steve had in mind when he said that LUI does better when vegged to 8". Maybe you got an unusual pheno. Your yield is outstanding. That's about 5oz/sq. Ft. You must be getting three grams per watt. How many watts do you have per square foot? That much yield is hard to believe. I know a guy who can get 4oz per square foot from a couple of his 8 week moms (Heavy Duty Fruity and Hog), but he uses 75 watts per square foot and either uses more clones or he keeps them in veg until they reach more like 10-12".
Posted by GrowGreen on March 6th, 2004 08:32 PM:
mango
Breeder Steve for all I know is right. I don't let them grow to 8".
My math.
36 to 42 grams per plant .We will average this to 39 grams per plant
39 x 28(# of plants)= 1092 grams
In 9 sq' = 4.3 oz per sq'(121.3 gpsq')
My light footprint is 3'x3' I use a Cool
Sun Reflector with 1000w HPS Hort.
15" to 18" from canopy.
9 sq' = 111 wpsf. (125 wpsf works great)
So... 1092 grams per 1000W HPS
Posted by GrowGreen on March 7th, 2004 06:05 PM:
Mango
I tried it with 400mh,400hps,600hps, and 400mh/600hps in a dual spectrum reflector.
The 1000HPS wins every time. If I can find a dual spectrum reflector with 6" flanges,
I'll try a dual 600/600.
In my opinion several things together help in the Yields:
Genetics
Low Stress Environment (temps,humidity,food and water)
Light Intensity
TLC
Kiingbee
In my opinion 1 plant per sq' will not yield more than 4 plants per sq' with the same veg time.
Whether you top,scrog,LST,etc... Veg time is space and available light determined.
I used a light meter to map my reflectors best footprint. 3x3 @ 15" to 18" of reflector height
has the least lost of lumens.
From my experience:
9 plants in the 3x3 topped should yield the same as 9 single cola's.(more plants
more yield, 4 per sq') With the same veg time. If you top em, I would veg a little longer. Genetics
for bushy or single cola to consider also.
If you flip em at 3" they will only grow the main cola
In the above pic's the clones are 25" from the reflector. In 5 days I'll drop
it to 15" for the rest of the bloom cycle. This as long as plant leaf temps
remain at least 3 degrees below canopy ambient temps.
The “elevated” Light 100wpsf or greater doesn't leave alot of room for error or
equipment failure.
AN nutrients.
With the “elevated”er light you can get away with “elevated”er PPM of nutes.
There are 4 members here on CW that are soon going to test different Nute
formulas against AN “elevated” Yield Kit.(S--si Bloom A/B, Voodoo Juice, and Big “flower”)
All with different Hydroponics Styles(bubbler,e/f,modified e/f, and aero.) 3 of the tests
will be with the same Clone in different parts of North America.
If they wish to sound off on their grow, I'm sure they will soon.
Posted by GrowGreen on March 8th, 2004 04:53 PM:
kiingbee
Floranova Bloom (FloraLucas) is my preferred nute currently.
Never tried the Synergy, ceteris paribus uses it and he likes it.(is that a pic of Frank Zappa on the bottle?)
I like the GH Floralicious Bloom as a additive. The best product I've used so far. I use it with PBP and FloraLucas
Adds great “flower” aroma and trich production. Have used the Liquid Karma too, it left a film on everything.
I mix the Floranova per bottle instructions. To a ppm of 1330 or so. I don't baby my clones. After 20 days I bump the ppm up to 2000. Then add the Floralicious.
The PBP works as well, just have to add Cal/Mag to it.
Got your Cali-o/LUI beans today. They meet the wet paper towel this weekend. Should have a nice mom by the end of the summer. They look Great. Thanks
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 13th, 2004 06:39 PM:
A2Z
No flush, I tried it, lost yield and could not notice a taste difference. Not needed with the Lucas Formula, PBP, or FloraLucas.
Soil mix- search in soil and organics the dirt growers know all the soil mixes. What works and what doesnt.
I don't stick the 10 day clones into bloom. They get at least 10 days in p--s under 240 watts of Fluorescents to build roots. Then to the bloom room. Usually I get roots on clone cuts in 5 to 7 days, then they veg/root till my rotation time.
I grow mostly 50- 60 day strains. With CO2 and a stress free environment they finish in 40-45 days. Trich's cloudily with some amber.
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 19th, 2004 06:53 PM:
FlowerChild
I can change the harvest date (milky with some amber trichs) by increasing CO2 or cooler temps with a used, diluted res.+/- 5 to 10 days. The decrease in bloom days has a cost of lower yield. Most of the strains I grow normally finish in 50-60 days (per Seed Vender) I use the “elevated” light levels to insure the best light penetration. When you crowd the plants, what few fans you have need all the light available to make the fat “flower”s.
Remember this plant is a "Annual" genetically designed to live for one growing season.
>>Bye the way... What are u using to cover the hydron in the photo?<<<
Nothing covers the Hydroton.
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 19th, 2004 09:42 PM:
F
Yes I am driving them to finish early. They are not stressed. I'm no stranger to stressing them. I can sp-- a banana 25 feet away. Ever take IR temp readings on your plants? In relation to ambient temps?
Mine are fed according to Brix,Sap EC and Sap PH. All their needs are filled on schedule. Their p--ential is not exhausted, it's maximum in a shorter time frame.
I never broke the 2lb mark with the light intensity lower in the time frame I needed. I can lift the light, but it will only change the yield (lower)
Peace
GG
Posted by GrowGreen on March 27th, 2004 02:07 PM:
kb
Early on I trim some lower shoots. Only with the LUI, this strain likes to grow Christmas Tree style.
Top off is with ro water only. I only add nutes when the PH heads north. Usually around the 20 day mark. That's when I hit them with a good dose of Floralicious too.
I have the Cali-o clone, the mom is currently bulking up too donate some clones. Soon to run a SOG with Cali-o and C99 both gifts from a friend.
Posted by GrowGreen on April 10th, 2004 07:32 AM:
Thanks DD
I use the Hydroton clay balls (recycled for 3 years) This run also has Sunleaves new Silica Rock in the bottom of the p--s.
This table I use FloraNova(FloraLucas) Bloom, the other table uses PBP.
The PBP table (40 gal res) Starts with 10 oz of PBP. At the 20 day mark of bloom another 10 oz of PBP is added. Floralicious is also added at this time. 6 oz (1 tsp per gal) Adding it the last 2 weeks would still benefit your “flower”s. Floralicious is the only "snake oil" I have found that really works. I buy it by the gallon.. I have an old Big”flower” clone that never would get that frosty(trichs) Once she met the Floralicious she packed the crystals on.
Peace
GG
The Cal-Mag (per bottle dosage) is probably just a habit. I don't add it to the FloraLucas table.
Posted by GrowGreen on April 23rd, 2004 05:47 AM:
GN Thank you , Hows the new room coming?
DD the FloraLucas Bloom PH is stable after the Mix Settles. I adjust my RO water to 7.5 before adding the nutes. I like to stay around the 6.2 mark, so the bounce back in PH isnt a problem for me. PureBlendPro is a little more stable when first mixed..
Peace
GG
I will loose at least 20% without the CO2. I use CO2 to finish the plants early. So this run could and should have gone another 10 days. The 10 days longer would have made up the 20%.
Air movement and ventilation were the same as a CO2 enriched run. Lots of cool air being moved around. No air from outside.
The nute ppm level also had to be back down some without the CO2. I usually run PBP at 2000ppm and FloraLucas at 1800ppm. They couldnt handle the hot mix. The PBP table was @ 1500ppm and FloraLucas @ 1300ppm.
I use two separate 40 gal neuters tanks.
One is with PBP and one is FloraLucas.
Posted by GrowGreen on June 23rd, 2004 06:16 PM:
>>So GG, if you were to veg those babies under say, 111wpsqft <g>, for just 5 days (instead of the 10 post rooting days under 30wpsqft flo), you would have the beef to go to bloom even sooner.. And yield more! According to this untested math formula <g> <<
When I used 400w lamps on 2x4 tables, I would veg with a 400MH and bloom with 400HPS, but I ran a every two week
perpetual harvest. If I could light tight each of my current table I would try the 111 wpsqft veg. It would cut the veg/root time as you stated.
I think Ceteris could pull this off easier than I. I believe he uses bloom wattage to veg.
Wolf88
Yes I flower my clones at 3-5 inches, but different seeds/clones behave differently.
I invest some time into picking my clone donors. Some of my LUI finish at 18 inches,
another at 28 or 32. The finishing height also can be affected by the grow environment.
Most plants I have grown and flowered at 3 inches rarely grow over 26 inches unless I encourage
them.
36 grams dry is that the weight of just it main cola??????
One plant, dry sm---able product.
you dont know what your talking about. both are great strains. never found a quick or as heavy yielder as the ak47... 7weeks done, 1in clone to 1-2oz plant.
P.D.S
Member
Im not sure if anyone has mentioned Williams Wonder , I have seen this strain yield about 2oz give or take, no veg time. great strain here's a pic ,strait from clone not sure on the weight but it'll be over an ounce easy I don't have any finished pics as this is my first time documenting the strain this is 40 day into flower still has 20 to go
and a close up to show quality
I have said it before, I will say it again, it is not about funky strains that yield loads more than any other, nor any Hydro/Soil mix/brand/schedule/snake oil........ Getting a plant growing properly, with no environmental setbacks and good vigour is all you need.
AK47 is clearly a great plant with a lot of potential to hit the max, as are many others.
AK47 is clearly a great plant with a lot of potential to hit the max, as are many others.
Biscut Eater
Member
San.nies seed...but then narrowed down to my own mom/cuttings. I've got some LUI in the batters cage, but just too busy sorting through my other projects. If yield is your main concern....K.O. Kush ain't your answer. If you do use Promix with any strain, I would mix 1/3rd perlite to 2/3rds promix. Keep a close eye on over fertilization. Floranova is working well for me, but I pour a new gallon of Floranova out in a big bowl and hand mix it....then pour it into 5 seperate bottles. Then shake the living piss out of it before each use. Using 600 watt HPS, I've never hit the GPW with Promix....but I exceed it when using rockwool on an ebb and flow.
Biscut Eater
Member
I'm not sure how much experience you've got Dreamer.....but AK would probably be your best shot at being full proof.
There is a commercial "Strain" here in B.C. That is a 3 way cross of B.C. Big bud, White Rhino, and Mantanuska Thunderfuck, Only some phenos are big producers but I've seen it yeild 2lbs per 1000 watts in NFT takes 56-60 days. Popsicle sticks loaded with resin, the taste and "High" are not what I seek in the herb, hard on the lungs. throat, with a stupefying stone that puts you on the couch for an hour and then off to bed. The clones are sold as "C"" and "Abbottsford Thunderfuck" this is the stuff along w/ M-39 that gives B>C> bud a bad rep in some circles, but it fits your criteria as a high yielding low veg time Plant
Good post ChaosCat!
Good post ChaosCat!
Yeah, there's no doubt about it, you have to have every thing dailed in no matter how you may grow if you expect that vigour, and to reach the plants full potential. But, some strains will yield better than others, jus like some strains are more potent than others. That's the way their genetics are, kinda like people I spose.....
The SAGE pheno I spoke of grew colas' so big they wouldn't fit in widemouth mason jar after they were completly dry. They will seriously blow up! very nice taste and high aswell. I've grown many strains over the years, and this one stands out. Jus thought I'd pass it along. BC
Good post ChaosCat!
Yeah, there's no doubt about it, you have to have every thing dailed in no matter how you may grow if you expect that vigour, and to reach the plants full potential. But, some strains will yield better than others, jus like some strains are more potent than others. That's the way their genetics are, kinda like people I spose.....
The SAGE pheno I spoke of grew colas' so big they wouldn't fit in widemouth mason jar after they were completly dry. They will seriously blow up! very nice taste and high aswell. I've grown many strains over the years, and this one stands out. Jus thought I'd pass it along. BC
