Vintage Colombian
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That's a good question, however I could only speculate because I have no interior experience. In fact in over 45 years of growing (20 years in Colombia) I've never flowered a plant under artificial light. I do have a tent but I only use it to veg.
With the Muisca like any long flowering tropical plant I can only assume it would be difficult (impossible) to replacate the tropical environment. But again I don't know and I've only finished one Muisca so.
Now I did make a Muisca cross with the incredible Wiley from Hawaii. Again I don't know but I would think there would be better indoor results with the cross. I believe to experience authentic Colombian sativa it needs to be grown here. The sun,the soil, wind and rain make the character of the effect.
When you you hit Colombian sativa you can feel the sunshine, you can feel the vibe of the environment.
Of course that's just my opinion, your's may vary.
red rider
With the Muisca like any long flowering tropical plant I can only assume it would be difficult (impossible) to replacate the tropical environment. But again I don't know and I've only finished one Muisca so.
Now I did make a Muisca cross with the incredible Wiley from Hawaii. Again I don't know but I would think there would be better indoor results with the cross. I believe to experience authentic Colombian sativa it needs to be grown here. The sun,the soil, wind and rain make the character of the effect.
When you you hit Colombian sativa you can feel the sunshine, you can feel the vibe of the environment.
Of course that's just my opinion, your's may vary.
red rider
Baba Karuna
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Beautiful
What is the legal situation for herb in Colombia? Is it pretty relaxed like Ecuador?
In the late 90s Colombia passed a law allowing individuals to legally posses 20 grams of flower 5 grams of concentrate. It is also legal to grow up to 20 plants. So legally (theoretically) you can carry weed legally (up to 20 grams) and to grow 20 plants.
Reality recreational cannabis is still illegal, sales and open consumption is not only illegal but in many places it's not socially acceptable. Of course you can get away with alot but it only takes once to ruin your day. In the big cities police conduct random personal searches, normally it's local riff raff that gets searched but your taking a chance.
And you have to be careful in certain areas trying to score, if you don't know the person you're taking a chance. Also smoking in public draws attention of not only the law but also shifty characters lurking in the area. My advice to anyone coming to Colombia for the first time smoker or not is
To not play the fool, don't stand out, don't make yourself an obvious target. Low profile, have a destination and know how to get there. Watch your money don't wear anything worth cutting your throat for. Don't engage random people on the street, be very very Leary of overly friendly women (don't let them touch you).
Other than that it's pretty cool.
red rider
Reality recreational cannabis is still illegal, sales and open consumption is not only illegal but in many places it's not socially acceptable. Of course you can get away with alot but it only takes once to ruin your day. In the big cities police conduct random personal searches, normally it's local riff raff that gets searched but your taking a chance.
And you have to be careful in certain areas trying to score, if you don't know the person you're taking a chance. Also smoking in public draws attention of not only the law but also shifty characters lurking in the area. My advice to anyone coming to Colombia for the first time smoker or not is
To not play the fool, don't stand out, don't make yourself an obvious target. Low profile, have a destination and know how to get there. Watch your money don't wear anything worth cutting your throat for. Don't engage random people on the street, be very very Leary of overly friendly women (don't let them touch you).
Other than that it's pretty cool.
red rider
Baba Karuna
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Thank you for the thorough answer brother
sounds like nycity or san fran
I would like to say that although I don't know I want to believe that Muisca grown indoors would be something good.
What I was trying to say is it would be different, not bad if grown indoors.. Remember I only offer my opinion and perspective that being said the Muisca bubble is absolutely fantastic. I was hoping my buddy Camilo was coming over yesterday. He called me yesterday and said he had some nice San Pedro tea he wanted to gift me. Never had that tea so I said come on over, he said he and his girlfriend were on the way. So I told him I had a little hash for him to try, his girlfriend loves the hash. But this dude is like alot of people here, they say something but only vaguely mean it. No biggie no bad I put a little bubble away so when he does appear I got something to impress.
The Red Snake coming along nicely,seeds developing. I'm looking forward to growing more of this variety, we grew a few plants in Bogota back in 2017. I always wanted to try it grown directly in ground under the sun.
Red Snake
red rider
What I was trying to say is it would be different, not bad if grown indoors.. Remember I only offer my opinion and perspective that being said the Muisca bubble is absolutely fantastic. I was hoping my buddy Camilo was coming over yesterday. He called me yesterday and said he had some nice San Pedro tea he wanted to gift me. Never had that tea so I said come on over, he said he and his girlfriend were on the way. So I told him I had a little hash for him to try, his girlfriend loves the hash. But this dude is like alot of people here, they say something but only vaguely mean it. No biggie no bad I put a little bubble away so when he does appear I got something to impress.
The Red Snake coming along nicely,seeds developing. I'm looking forward to growing more of this variety, we grew a few plants in Bogota back in 2017. I always wanted to try it grown directly in ground under the sun.
Red Snake
red rider
Baba Karuna
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Beautiful landscape and plants brother
San Pedro or “Wachuma” is amazing. Such a profound teacher. I highly recommend you try it when you get the chance. There is nothing like it, truly life affirming
🪷Jai Guru Deva🪷
Camilo is a cool dude, he's a funny guy always finding something funny. He eats alot of mushroom and cacti, funny his wife doesn't though. She told me she only has bad trips so she doesn't partake. She loves weed though and like Camilo she's a funny person.
But yeah I dropped quite a bit of acid back in the day and now I'll eat the occasional mushroom. I got to be in the mood for it, I'm not into random tripping anymore.
About five years ago I cruised down to Punto Mayo near the Ecuador border. I was invited by some indian dudes interested in growing hemp in their region. They thought I was some kind of cannabis expert since I was working with the Colombian cannabis center. The Cafan Indians have a village about 20 miles up the tiger river. This is like Indiana Jones jungle man, riding a little boat. The village was cool with really nice people, no cell service and power only at certain hours. I stayed with a very nice family in their basic but nice house. Maybe 30 people lived in the village with others living close. There was no weed there it wasn't in their culture. Anyway that night they invited me to the yage (Ayahuasca) ceremony. I couldn't say no and soon found myself trekking through the jungle trying to keep up with the indians. Way back in the densest jungle you can imagine was a clearing with a little hut and a huge roof with hammocks tied under it. And it was dark, they built a fire and started to prepare the brew. I'm sure most already know this but it's noisy in the jungle at night. I wasn't scared really but uncomfortable as I took a hammock. I kept thinking this would be a lot better if I had some weed. To make a long story short it was one the most powerful trips I've had. Talking to the beings and giant machines with huge gears and wheels in motion, jaguars with congo drums. I survived it and got to be honest I was glad to get back to cilvization. I recommend this experience to everyone, it really tighten up a few nuts but it wasn't fun. It's not a recreational experience and not one I want to repeat. Love the beautiful people there but it's so humid and so many insects and pathogens even a greenhouse would be difficult.
So yeah the other night I ate a little top of a wild mushroom Camilo gave me. I was alone and had a nice cleansing trip, very mild due to the dose.
I'll get some wachuma (I believe that's he called it) and eventually try it.
I also want to keep different options around for any visitors wanting that type experience.
Beautiful day today on the mountain.
Stay calm
red rider
But yeah I dropped quite a bit of acid back in the day and now I'll eat the occasional mushroom. I got to be in the mood for it, I'm not into random tripping anymore.
About five years ago I cruised down to Punto Mayo near the Ecuador border. I was invited by some indian dudes interested in growing hemp in their region. They thought I was some kind of cannabis expert since I was working with the Colombian cannabis center. The Cafan Indians have a village about 20 miles up the tiger river. This is like Indiana Jones jungle man, riding a little boat. The village was cool with really nice people, no cell service and power only at certain hours. I stayed with a very nice family in their basic but nice house. Maybe 30 people lived in the village with others living close. There was no weed there it wasn't in their culture. Anyway that night they invited me to the yage (Ayahuasca) ceremony. I couldn't say no and soon found myself trekking through the jungle trying to keep up with the indians. Way back in the densest jungle you can imagine was a clearing with a little hut and a huge roof with hammocks tied under it. And it was dark, they built a fire and started to prepare the brew. I'm sure most already know this but it's noisy in the jungle at night. I wasn't scared really but uncomfortable as I took a hammock. I kept thinking this would be a lot better if I had some weed. To make a long story short it was one the most powerful trips I've had. Talking to the beings and giant machines with huge gears and wheels in motion, jaguars with congo drums. I survived it and got to be honest I was glad to get back to cilvization. I recommend this experience to everyone, it really tighten up a few nuts but it wasn't fun. It's not a recreational experience and not one I want to repeat. Love the beautiful people there but it's so humid and so many insects and pathogens even a greenhouse would be difficult.
So yeah the other night I ate a little top of a wild mushroom Camilo gave me. I was alone and had a nice cleansing trip, very mild due to the dose.
I'll get some wachuma (I believe that's he called it) and eventually try it.
I also want to keep different options around for any visitors wanting that type experience.
Beautiful day today on the mountain.
Stay calm
red rider
Baba Karuna
Well-known member
I spent time in the Amazon studying shamanic science and practices and the yagé is definitely very interesting. Nighttime in the deep jungle is something else, noisy and the animals aren’t always the scariest thing one can encounter. Strange things happen out there that western society is completely unaware of. I went into the adventure thinking that yagé was where I wanted to go but once I was introduced to wachuma everything changed and that became my primary teacher. These definitely are not recreational substances and must be approached with humility and respect
That was a very insightful post my friend and muchly appreciated. I feel my experience with the Cafan people was needed. However as much as I love them I don't feel I belong in their land. Actually the yage told me that. And it was after that experience I found my distaste for commodity cannabis and the villains that work within it. That's another story but I know that I connected with my friend Camilo for a positive reason.
I have to constantly remind myself that I don't understand everything and there's still much to learn and behavior to correct. It's not easy and I know plants and people are teachers.
I've had a great year here at the Cielo Azul finca and grew some of my best plants yet. I love the solitude and quite farm living but I'm ready to expand and find happiness in sharing this beautiful experience with other's that can appreciate it. Now I can understand what my dad found purposeful in his life. Not that I'm trying to live like my dad but the core value is there.
Some things are even better shared, experience makes the moment.
The best is yet to come.
red rider
I have to constantly remind myself that I don't understand everything and there's still much to learn and behavior to correct. It's not easy and I know plants and people are teachers.
I've had a great year here at the Cielo Azul finca and grew some of my best plants yet. I love the solitude and quite farm living but I'm ready to expand and find happiness in sharing this beautiful experience with other's that can appreciate it. Now I can understand what my dad found purposeful in his life. Not that I'm trying to live like my dad but the core value is there.
Some things are even better shared, experience makes the moment.
The best is yet to come.
red rider
Full on rainy season here now, been a steady light shower for the past few days. I don't mind the wet and rain as long as we get some sunny days. I'm flowering some plants now and despite the cloudy days and high humidity they do well. But late flower and post harvest pathogens can occur. Drying takes days to weeks longer in the wet season and forget about dry sifting. But we need the rain to refill the holding tanks and to water the food crops. With all this rain everything is vibrant green and the livestock fat from the abundance of fresh grass.
Any time of year the empanadas of Paipa are delicious.
I've increased the inoculation of effect micro organisms in the greenhouse and the plants are responding well.
Even imported genetics can be flowered this time of year with a watchful eye and lot's of EM1.
The pollenated RS is leisurely developing and enjoying the ambient environment of the greenhouse.
I'm looking forward to going through the F2s and finding a real viper.
red rider
Any time of year the empanadas of Paipa are delicious.
I've increased the inoculation of effect micro organisms in the greenhouse and the plants are responding well.
Even imported genetics can be flowered this time of year with a watchful eye and lot's of EM1.
The pollenated RS is leisurely developing and enjoying the ambient environment of the greenhouse.
I'm looking forward to going through the F2s and finding a real viper.
red rider
Hi RR. Check out what I’ve got growIng now. Just chopped a bunch of hybrids and have this strain going.
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It’s growing pretty good. I’d say though some indica in these genes.
Nanan-Bouclou (Southern Star Seeds) :: Cannabis Strain Info
As Sativa as it gets.Seriously acid trippy profoundness to the high with a sweet aromatic taste.The motherplant is Haitian Sativa and its father is a Cape Tribulation Sativa ( which is PNG Gold).Needless to say, it wants to get big. Indoors will requ...
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It’s growing pretty good. I’d say though some indica in these genes.
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Like I said before I have less than zero experience (or interest) with indoor cultivation but I assume it's very demanding. Your plants blondie are incredible and demonstrate a high level of knowledge and commitment. As far as the genetics,no idea but what matters after all is the hit. If the hits right and worth the effort and expenses then you have a winner and worth further investigation.
For me it's a never ending journey with no finish line (except death and then my daughter takes over). I enjoy knowing confirmed details of the lineage and parental lines. I like to imagine the effect verities might have from different regions and then deciding whether to inbreed or outcross . But most of all the joy for me comes from the process and steps along the way. Because I'm not profit driven I have no value for excellence expect my own. Although I can appreciate the opinion of others it's really irrelevant.
Cured Djamba
Calm and cool
red rider
For me it's a never ending journey with no finish line (except death and then my daughter takes over). I enjoy knowing confirmed details of the lineage and parental lines. I like to imagine the effect verities might have from different regions and then deciding whether to inbreed or outcross . But most of all the joy for me comes from the process and steps along the way. Because I'm not profit driven I have no value for excellence expect my own. Although I can appreciate the opinion of others it's really irrelevant.
Cured Djamba
Calm and cool
red rider
It's about 68 f and drier this morning. I enjoy the morning and look at it as a celebration. Get the coffee and head up to the roof, the air fresh with that mountain crispness.
Cured Muisca brightens the moment, it's a glorious connection.
red rider
Cannabrainer
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Love the weed, love the personal motivation and purpose you communicate to the community, and most of all I love the scenery of those colombian mountains. They remind me so much of back home and why I long to return and buy myself a house in the central mountain regions of Puerto Rico (Cayey, Aibonito, Orocovis, and Adjuntas). You are living the dream and the Musica can only enhance that
Wonder how she smokes? Cheers!
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Never knew PR had mountains but I'm sure they're beautiful. I like the Muisca in the morning not because it's weak but because it's clean and refreshing. The Muisca elevates my mood and sets the pace for the rest of the day.
CBG Red Snake bx
For me Colombian mountain grown sativa (or anything else for that matter) is without equal. Even modern hybrids do well here but the narrow leaf is beyond approach.
red rider
CBG Red Snake bx
For me Colombian mountain grown sativa (or anything else for that matter) is without equal. Even modern hybrids do well here but the narrow leaf is beyond approach.
red rider
Red, you are making me salivate!
