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Old 03-30-2018, 03:40 PM #41
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Yeah, we are very familiar with broads. This is totally different. Thanks for the input.
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Anyone have a date on the first mentioning of this issue?

Has anyone seen this off-island?

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Old 03-30-2018, 11:30 PM #43
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Broads and Russets have been present in Hawaii for over half a century according to University of Hawaii. The symptoms of "black death" are completely different.

It is 100% not a nutrient deficiency. If that were the case this would be a very common disorder throughout the world.

There are larger insects, like aphids/thrips/beetles, that are responsible for transmitting viruses and fungal pathogens in other plants in Hawaii but im not sure anyone here is capable of diagnosing the issue since UH will not look at anything cannabis related.

Things like phytoplasmas are even harder to diagnose because they require DNA testing. Fortunately, I havent had this problem since I stopped sharing clones over a year ago.
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@Douglas it has been noted in the NE Usa. I currently have some friends on Maui battling it and my intern had to ditch all his cuts and start over recently as well. I haven't seen it in my garden in a few years.

@kalo hope you guys are well and didn't lose your roof the other day.
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Could be the DEA spraying fusarium wilt like they tried in Colombia with coca plants.

Do notice where it all started.
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The fungus at issue is a mutant strain of Fusarium oxysporum, and the plant it kills is coca. It was first discovered in 1988 on dying coca plants at a U.S. Department of Agriculture-owned research station on the Hawaiian island of Kauai.
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I dont think it was intentionally spread...if so, they were pretty shitty at it lol.

The Hawaii department of ag is just notoriously bad about stopping invasives from coming to Hawaii. We have all the worst shit on the Big Island and they dont do shit about it until it spreads to the touristy islands.

@surfd Thanks man. Yeah, the weather has been pretty shit this year but we still kicking. Hope you are doing good yourself.
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@Douglas it has been noted in the NE Usa. I currently have some friends on Maui battling it and my intern had to ditch all his cuts and start over recently as well. I haven't seen it in my garden in a few years.

@kalo hope you guys are well and didn't lose your roof the other day.
maybe send a pic to Mel or Ed on IG. , Mel I bet has an idea of whats going on
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It still didnt estinguished those Fukushima menace... i dont get just how people
are not sincere on theirself and doesnt check in what content it was affect soils
water and air... is there a monitor service operated by non-goverment that
check this things..!?


Here was in 1986 blowed Chernobil,only one reactor that haved just 7% of nuclear fuel
and this polution was even today in schrooms,wild boars and other animals..

while Fuku blowed 4 reactors,all of them 100% of capacity,one reactor with MOX fuel,
Kuroshio brings all up on your beautifull island and North American shores and there
is nothing happends... we dont have any report what is happening with wildlife,
does people have higher rates of cancer,does water have higher amount of radionuclides,
etc...

everything is so "clean" that it looks too much scary to me.. those silence for me
is a significant... made me to not belive that everything is benevolent from this
huge amounts of radionuclides that rain down till this day...

Simply i have hard time belive that everything is OK... mathematics and science
on radioactivity dont aloud me to be naive...
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It is 100% not a nutrient deficiency. If that were the case this would be a very common disorder throughout the world.
99% of the time whe a plant is showing damage from insect attack, the plant will not be growing.

Yet the grow tips look vibrant, and the kind of golden green you want to see in the vegging stage. In other words, the plant's root system is healthy. Other than the bulbous indentations on the leaves (I used to think my cat was the culprit and was chewing on the plants when I wasn't looking) are characteristic of Nitrogen deficieny. The purpling is also characteristic of Nitrogen def.

In (late) flowering, that is often caused by Potassium deficiency, because potassium is in high demand and potassium helps with nitrogen absorbtion. Which means in flowering, potassium def is accompanied by what looks like nitrogen def.

However in vegging, which is what these plants are in, mostly the primary requirement is Nitrogen. This is clear N def, nothing to panic about. It's actually a sign that the plant is growing all out.
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*facepalm* Oh sure... classic nitro def. Not.

Any private labs with the same capabilities as the AG dept? No eccentric millionaire's with the education, time and resources to chase this? Scary stuff and it needs to be chased down.
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