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zif · 03-27-2018, 03:52 AM

I’ve been thinking about how back when I learned to grow, regular seeds were the only option.

It took me a long time to try ‘all female’ seeds. When I did, I really enjoyed the results, but also could take them or leave them.

It just didn’t make a difference, because I’d learned to work with whatever number of female, male, and other plants came up.

But am I carrying around obsolete baggage? Is the era of regular seeds ending?

If not, I wonder what skills for dealing with males those new growers who learn with female seeds should know...

purplepassion · 03-27-2018, 04:20 AM

Best seeds out there are regs.

troutman · 03-27-2018, 05:14 AM

Ending?

Never.

Some of us don't grow anything else but regular seeds.

I know I'll never grow anything else.

Patmando22 · 03-27-2018, 05:18 AM

Yea regs are the way to go if you can! Make sure to start with good genetics from a well known breeder.

Patmando22 · 03-27-2018, 05:22 AM

Or not sometimes you find a diamond out there from a random guy,bag,or freebie so if you got the space to have fun with pop anything

aridbud · 03-27-2018, 05:25 AM

Yes - regular seeds.
Although many feminized seeds are stable, there's still a risk due to stressing plant to cause hermies. If you do find a hermaphrodite it's either of the following mistakes can stress a plant to the point it switches gender:

Temperatures that are too high or too low
Wild PH fluctuations
Light leaks
Over-fertilization
Exposure to plant hormones
Improper Watering

zif · 03-27-2018, 05:17 PM

Some of the cons I have in mind:

extra space, supplies, time spent on males
opportunity cost of males for low-plant-count legal regimes
random number of females per pack
may seem harder for novices
increased odds of consemilia product, especially at scale
encourages clonal propagation - increases odds of 'potato famine' type crop losses
encourages clonal propagation - decreases regional variety in taste and effect
decreased breeding efficiency

I think these are mostly solvable. But how?

Lots of new growers right now have a four plant limit, if they wish to stay legal. Are regular seeds really better than 'all female' seeds for them?

brookie · 03-27-2018, 05:23 PM

4 plant limit "legal" grow hahahaha is this what it has come to ? That is like telling me how many tomato plants I can grow. If I have to grow only 4 plants to be "legal" I would much rather be "illegal".

zif · 03-27-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aridbud

there's still a risk due to stressing plant to cause hermies.

This is not different from regular seeds, is it?

Arguably, breeding with reversed females makes removing stress-induced intersexual traits easier.

Jellyfish · 03-27-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brookie

4 plant limit "legal" grow hahahaha is this what it has come to ? That is like telling me how many tomato plants I can grow. If I have to grow only 4 plants to be "legal" I would much rather be "illegal".

No shit! I wouldn't go legal if the cops delivered the seeds to my door. Fuck the system!!! Fuck these stupid laws!

03-27-2018, 03:52 AM	#1
zif Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 151	Regular seeds worth it? I’ve been thinking about how back when I learned to grow, regular seeds were the only option. It took me a long time to try ‘all female’ seeds. When I did, I really enjoyed the results, but also could take them or leave them. It just didn’t make a difference, because I’d learned to work with whatever number of female, male, and other plants came up. But am I carrying around obsolete baggage? Is the era of regular seeds ending? If not, I wonder what skills for dealing with males those new growers who learn with female seeds should know...
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purplepassion Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 170	Best seeds out there are regs. __________________ Urb Company Maine Tea Growers
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troutman Seed Whore Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: In the Fridge Posts: 1,602	Ending? Never. Some of us don't grow anything else but regular seeds. I know I'll never grow anything else. __________________ I just died.
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Patmando22 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 557	Or not sometimes you find a diamond out there from a random guy,bag,or freebie so if you got the space to have fun with pop anything
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03-27-2018, 05:25 AM	#6
aridbud automeister Join Date: May 2013 Location: the best place on earth Posts: 5,589	Yes - regular seeds. Although many feminized seeds are stable, there's still a risk due to stressing plant to cause hermies. If you do find a hermaphrodite it's either of the following mistakes can stress a plant to the point it switches gender: Temperatures that are too high or too low Wild PH fluctuations Light leaks Over-fertilization Exposure to plant hormones Improper Watering __________________ Seeds have the power to preserve species, to enhance cultural as well as genetic diversity, to counter economic monopoly and to check the advance of conformity on all its many fronts. Michael Pollan Happiness held is the seed; Happiness shared is the flower. John Harrigan Instant gratification takes too long. Carrie Fisher - RIP. *afterthought autos* We are passionate breeders of unique quality cannabis autoflower hybrid seeds at down to earth prices; now 11 years running! https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65770
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03-27-2018, 05:18 AM	#4
Patmando22 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 557	Yea regs are the way to go if you can! Make sure to start with good genetics from a well known breeder.
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03-27-2018, 05:17 PM	#7
zif Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 151	Some of the cons I have in mind: extra space, supplies, time spent on males opportunity cost of males for low-plant-count legal regimes random number of females per pack may seem harder for novices increased odds of consemilia product, especially at scale encourages clonal propagation - increases odds of 'potato famine' type crop losses encourages clonal propagation - decreases regional variety in taste and effect decreased breeding efficiency I think these are mostly solvable. But how? Lots of new growers right now have a four plant limit, if they wish to stay legal. Are regular seeds really better than 'all female' seeds for them?
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03-27-2018, 05:23 PM	#8
brookie Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 141	4 plant limit "legal" grow hahahaha is this what it has come to ? That is like telling me how many tomato plants I can grow. If I have to grow only 4 plants to be "legal" I would much rather be "illegal".
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