[igrowone]

Originally Posted by Gypsy Nirvana

Yes but fast decisions can also lead to war, if the diplomatic process has not been thoroughly exhausted.

Some leaders seem to want to go to war just to win public approval, even when their nation is not really under any attack from the nation they are attacking.....see Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc....etc...etc.

i'm not arguing that the 'strong man' method of leadership is the best
just that we have an evolutionary hard wired response to see the strong leader as normal
for most of our history, war wasn't a question, it was inevitable
if not next month, then next year, war, war, and war
so when i see the support for trump, i understand the need of the people that support trump
it's very primeval, let us hope that civilization triumphs

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Originally Posted by igrowone

i'm not arguing that the 'strong man' method of leadership is the best
just that we have an evolutionary hard wired response to see the strong leader as normal
for most of our history, war wasn't a question, it was inevitable
if not next month, then next year, war, war, and war
so when i see the support for trump, i understand the need of the people that support trump
it's very primeval, let us hope that civilization triumphs

Yes I understand what you are saying igrowone...

When you think about HUGE armies/military sitting around twiddling their thumbs during peace time that are totally prepped, trained and psych'ed for wartime.....millions of people are caught up in the industrial/military machine and only war seems to make them feel like they have any progress.....not just keeping the peace as it should be.

[Bumbatar]

I am getting seriously pissed off every time I turn on the news and every story is about "regulating" social media and not one idiot in this country stops to think about how dangerous this is to the first amendment and our constitution its all RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA we have to sacrifice our freedom cuz if we dont PUTIN WINS! It's sad and depressing how easy it is to brain wash people just like cattle being driven off a cliff by Native Americans so they can feast on the bodies. So lets consider what we have bee through.

Vietnam war Ton-kin gulf ------FAKE NEWS

Medical students in danger invasion of Grenada ----------- FAKE NEWS

Gulf war Nayirah testimony baby massacre ---------FAKE NEWS "done by crisis actors yes they are real"

WMD Iraq --------FAKE NEWS

Saddam Hussein helping Al Qaeda --------FAKE NEWS

Saddam Hussein connected to 9/11 --------- FAKE NEWS

Bashar Assad of Syria NOT fighting ISIS-------------FAKE NEWS

Bashar Assad helping ISIS ----------------------FAKE NEWS

Bashar Assad used chemical weapons-----------FAKE NEWS "it was Saudi backed Al Qaeda"

White Helmets not Al Qaeda-----------FAKE NEWS YES THEY ARE AL QAEDA

But now we can trust the corporate media and the CIA because they are known for their truth telling skills and truly care about human life and the working class peasants right?? We need to censor the internet and criminalize political speech cuz Russia!! Anyone who has more than two brain cells and analytical thinking skills must be a RUSSIA BOT!!

It was not Russia that hacked the DNC emails! HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!!!

[Gypsy Nirvana]

You are not alone Bumbatar in the way you are thinking, and that is exactly why the powers that be/deep state wants to have more control over the internet, so that they can sanction dissenting voices, stifling the truth and have more power over what we think by controlling perception via the media...

To be able to enact these 'security measures' they always need a scapegoat to try and justify it, and Russia has been one of their main scapegoats ever since WW2 when the USA went from being a Russian ally to being a Russian enemy all of a sudden.....because they always need an enemy real or contrived to rally the people around using fear tactics while fleecing their pockets of tax dollars and taking their sons and daughters to fight and to be maimed and killed in useless and unnecessary foreign wars just to create wealth for the industrial/military machine.

Originally Posted by Bumbatar

I am getting seriously pissed off every time I turn on the news and every story is about "regulating" social media and not one idiot in this country stops to think about how dangerous this is to the first amendment and our constitution its all RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA we have to sacrifice our freedom cuz if we dont PUTIN WINS! It's sad and depressing how easy it is to brain wash people just like cattle being driven off a cliff by Native Americans so they can feast on the bodies. So lets consider what we have bee through.

Vietnam war Ton-kin gulf ------FAKE NEWS

Medical students in danger invasion of Grenada ----------- FAKE NEWS

Gulf war Nayirah testimony baby massacre ---------FAKE NEWS "done by crisis actors yes they are real"

WMD Iraq --------FAKE NEWS

Saddam Hussein helping Al Qaeda --------FAKE NEWS

Saddam Hussein connected to 9/11 --------- FAKE NEWS

Bashar Assad of Syria NOT fighting ISIS-------------FAKE NEWS

Bashar Assad helping ISIS ----------------------FAKE NEWS

Bashar Assad used chemical weapons-----------FAKE NEWS "it was Saudi backed Al Qaeda"

White Helmets not Al Qaeda-----------FAKE NEWS YES THEY ARE AL QAEDA

But now we can trust the corporate media and the CIA because they are known for their truth telling skills and truly care about human life and the working class peasants right?? We need to censor the internet and criminalize political speech cuz Russia!! Anyone who has more than two brain cells and analytical thinking skills must be a RUSSIA BOT!!

It was not Russia that hacked the DNC emails! HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!!!

[moose eater]

Smedley Butler, USMC, "War is a racket"

[vta]

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[St. Phatty]

Originally Posted by Bumbatar

Vietnam war Ton-kin gulf ------FAKE NEWS

I suggest Admiral James Stockdale's autobiography. He was the senior flyer at the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

His testimony - not a single enemy craft in sight, he & his co-workers were ordered to fire on Open Water.

And then the non-existent aggression was used to justify the murder of 4+ Million civilians in Southeast Asia.

As part of the PR campaign, it was called the "Vietnam War", but it was really the Southeast Asian War.


Obviously the US gov did not give up with their lying.

The US public ate it up during the first Iraq war (false accusations of Iraqi soldiers killing Kuwaiti babies) and the second Iraq war (US companies like Finnigan sold Iraq the tools they needed for a chemical weapons program.)

End result ... US troops simply function as Israel's security guards.

[Hermanthegerman]

My question is serious. How many americans, in percent, do eat such a typical american breakfast. What do you think? If I stumble down the stairs in the morning, I just can eat a toast or french bun and cigerette and coffee of course.

[mean mr.mustard]

There's a lot of fat people here.

I had coffee and cannabis.

I'm moving on to vodka and when the dishes are done I will make fried rice for lunch.

Many people are hungry and not many have the means to eat three times a day.

A few spend lots of money at restaurants and never bother to cook at home.

[Bwanabud]

Originally Posted by Hermanthegerman

My question is serious. How many americans, in percent, do eat such a typical american breakfast. What do you think? If I stumble down the stairs in the morning, I just can eat a toast or french bun and cigerette and coffee of course.

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I'll eat a breakfast like that pictured maybe 1 time a year, normally a bagel/muffin and coffee...then my meds, then the day starts.