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Old 03-10-2018, 09:39 PM #1
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When can I start my seeds

I'm very new to this. I am very experienced with growing fruit trees and food plots for wildlife. Grafting various apple trees together is a hobby of mine so I'm good at listening to what the trees need. Never planted a marijuana seed before.

I'm looking to experiment this year growing on my own properties and some public grounds. I'm a very dedicated hunter so I know areas that people don't go. Yes I've found some pot grows in the past but that's the only time I've seen it in plant form and I hustled out of the areas quickly. Wish I would have observed more.

Latitude of my plants will be scattered from 43to46 if it matters.

Bought feminized seeds. Northern lights, purple haze, super skunk and white widow

When can I start the seeds indoors? My outdoor planting target is mid may depending on how the spring is starting.

Should I plant all the seeds I have or just a few and clone additional plants?

I plan to start them in a basement using a led grow light that is rated for a 3'x3'area. Timer for 18 hours of light per day with a fan also?

I've spent hours reading up on this but never see how long people grow indoors before moving outdoors.

I happen to have a drone phantom 4 that I have been using to help pin point good areas that shouldn't be seen to easily from above, this worth it or am I over complicating things?

Any other tips, I'm all ears
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Old 03-11-2018, 03:38 PM #2
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Start them anytime you want, it only matters that you transplant at approx same day/night hours as in indoor, to avoid early preflowering. I start my indoor plants for outdoor transplant in mid april usually and keep them under 16/8 schedule, transplant them in mid-end may. Keep in mind to provide them spots with good sun exposition which might be more visible from above. And use a good soil mix.

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Sounds like a pretty well thought out plan for a first grow.

If you want larger plants start sooner rather than later.
If stealth is necessary start your plants in a couple weeks to a month.
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Old 03-11-2018, 04:15 PM #4
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So is there some type of guideline as to how tall they grow per week? I understand the veg stage can be as long as I make it by starting early, however I don't want to carry 2' tall plants to some areas.

For openings above I've scouted out a few spots that have had large trees come down creating openings. My thought is I can see the opening with drone but planes won't see as they can't see strait down. Is this logical train of thought?

One particular woods I spend a great deal of time hunting in had been logged a few years ago, logging is great for wildlife as its full of new life. And very thick 10 foot tall poplar trees, would be ideal to grow amongst them but I'm concerned about different shades of green standing out from above?

May do some planting amongst corn, I have the benefit of knowing the spray and harvest schedule since I talk to the farmers often.
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Old 03-11-2018, 04:48 PM #5
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First off you are asking for trouble in a variety of ways.

If you are growing around hunting areas in the 21st century, you are at risk of getting popped with a trail cam. I find several each year even in non hunting months in the forests and fields. They actually have a program here that encourages the public to put out these cameras for wildlife surveys. They are trying to get coverage of the whole state to extrapolate wildlife populations using the public's help.

Moving around with live plants is risky but doable. You bought female seeds so dig some holes and plant your seeds mid may. Jump starting them indoors just increases your risk.

Wherever you grow at that lat, your giant cannabis plants will likely be the last green thing out there and will stick out like a sore thumb.

The only safe way to grow outside in non legal states nowadays is to travel at night and always wear a face cover.

That being said I would personally look for small spaces that are very unlikely to see any foot traffic
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Old 03-11-2018, 05:09 PM #6
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First off you are asking for trouble in a variety of ways.

If you are growing around hunting areas in the 21st century, you are at risk of getting popped with a trail cam. I find several each year even in non hunting months in the forests and fields. They actually have a program here that encourages the public to put out these cameras for wildlife surveys. They are trying to get coverage of the whole state to extrapolate wildlife populations using the public's help.

Moving around with live plants is risky but doable. You bought female seeds so dig some holes and plant your seeds mid may. Jump starting them indoors just increases your risk.

Wherever you grow at that lat, your giant cannabis plants will likely be the last green thing out there and will stick out like a sore thumb.

The only safe way to grow outside in non legal states nowadays is to travel at night and always wear a face cover.

That being said I would personally look for small spaces that are very unlikely to see any foot traffic
Yes I'm well aware of trail cams. I run between 20 and 30 of them at a time not only to keep tabs on the animals I consume but also competing hunters and other woods users. All protein consumed in my house (by humans and dogs) I personally harvest. This knowledge of the woods makes me confident I know where to plant without being found except for in the air.

I'm really curious how soon to plant that I can still fit plants inside a large backpack. 12 to 16 inches tall would be ideal.

We have an invasive species of small tree here called buckthorn. It stays green until early November. Maybe I should start scouting patches of it to blend in with? It's normally a plant I hate as its very painful to walk through with crazy thorns.
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Old 03-11-2018, 06:00 PM #7
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I don't find any advantage to starting seeds more than a month before planting out. The plants finish up all the same whether I started them early or not.
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:27 AM #8
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you can always just train them to keep the height down. top them and tie em down sideways and let them grow out short and stocky. you should also consider that strains with longer flowering periods will likely struggle to finish that far north
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:49 AM #9
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So is there a general number of weeks from seed to 12" height?

I didn't know if cropping such small plants would be harmful, if that's fine I could get good roots established and prune to fit in day pack
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:52 AM #10
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Any strains you recommend instead of what I have? Northern lights and skunk I thought where quick flower times. I knew the purple haze would be a push but it's the quickest stavia dominate (personal preference) I could find listed.
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