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Epic Resin · 03-04-2018, 03:28 AM

Any tips on transplanting to coco from aerocloners. I can root easy. They get stunted bad after transplanting. Please give tips if possible. I may go back to cloning in coco. My results aren’t quite as good.

ChaosCatalunya · 03-04-2018, 12:57 PM

If you are careful with them, I have done this with no problem, sounds like you are upsetting them somehow in the transplant. I always dangled them in a pot, drizzled coco over till full, watered, then give them an easy couple of days.., before slamming them right in a HD garden and "asking" the max from them.

Bush Dr · 03-04-2018, 01:38 PM

Same as Chaos although I ph the water to 6.2

beta · 03-04-2018, 03:18 PM

Rinse your coco very well with normal nutrient solution before or after you transplant into it.

bsgospel · 03-04-2018, 03:49 PM

Could you possibly be burying them too deep to start? Not always but once in a while, a stem will get super sensitive on you if you bury too much to start and it gets a bit choked.

Otherwise, low light and reasonably charged coco shouldn't shock your clones too badly. Running any nutrition or seedling solution in your cloner? Roots brown or slimy when they come out?

Mikell · 03-04-2018, 04:36 PM

Stunted unhealthy or stunted stalled?

I lose a few days switching medium.

Ganoderma · 03-04-2018, 07:41 PM

What I do is I clip the root tips 5-7 days before I transplant them into a different medium from the aero cloner. This causes the cutting to start to send out new root shoots/growth. This is the prime time to transplant, since they have started new root growth, the growth continues and they take off like weeds. This gives them less of a bump in the road between different mediums.

Epic Resin · 03-04-2018, 07:48 PM

Hi all,

Thanks for the responses:

Chaos - that’s how I transplant them. Exactly the same way you describe. How long should the roots be? I thought the longer the better, this might be part of my trouble. Thoughts?

Bush dr - I ph to 6.0

Beta - what ppm do you use. I use about 400, but don’t flush. I’ll try flushing this time.

Bs gospel - burying too deep, interesting, never thought if that. They are under a 400w. They are like 2 ft away, I thought that would be okay. Running 300-350 ppm solution in the cloner. Roots all pure white.

Mikel - stunted in both ways, I would say.

I’m doing a clone run now. Would you guys mind sticking around. I’ll document with pics.

beta · 03-04-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic Resin

Hi all,

Beta - what ppm do you use. I use about 400, but don’t flush. I’ll try flushing this time.

I use 1.2-1.4EC (600-700ppm @ 500 scale) from fresh clones all the way through veg and even the first couple weeks of flower.

stoned40yrs · 03-04-2018, 09:12 PM

I've been rooting my clones in a homemade aerocloner and putting them in cups of coco for years and never had one fail. I'm going to assume you have good coco that comes precharged and is slightly damp when you squeeze it.
1) the more roots on the clone the better
2) Fill a party cup half full of coco then press it down compact with your knuckles.
3) Now take some of the feed you are going to be giving them as they grow- around 1.2ec and correct ph for coco- pour about 2-3 tablespoons of feed right into the center of the coco in the cup.
4) Now place your clone in the cup- roots right on the wet spot- and fill the cup up with coco covering at least 2 inches of the stalk. Compact coco with your fingers.
5) Very important- no harsh light for 3 days. if you run a 400w put all the clones a long ways from it and never under it. After 3 days you can gradually move them closer and they will take right off.
6) no domes- no sprays- don't fuck with them. they can go almost a week or until some coco on top starts drying before you feed them again.
100% success so far doing it this way.

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Epic Resin Newbie Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	Aero cloner to coco trouble Any tips on transplanting to coco from aerocloners. I can root easy. They get stunted bad after transplanting. Please give tips if possible. I may go back to cloning in coco. My results aren’t quite as good.
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ChaosCatalunya 5.2 club is now 8.1 club... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nr Barcelona Posts: 4,039	If you are careful with them, I have done this with no problem, sounds like you are upsetting them somehow in the transplant. I always dangled them in a pot, drizzled coco over till full, watered, then give them an easy couple of days.., before slamming them right in a HD garden and "asking" the max from them. __________________ .....
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bsgospel Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 398	Could you possibly be burying them too deep to start? Not always but once in a while, a stem will get super sensitive on you if you bury too much to start and it gets a bit choked. Otherwise, low light and reasonably charged coco shouldn't shock your clones too badly. Running any nutrition or seedling solution in your cloner? Roots brown or slimy when they come out? __________________ It's time for a revolution, but probably not in the terms that people imagine it. The word conjures up images of— a modern day version of peasants going into the street with their pitch forks to go after the bad guy who lives in a big house and we're gonna get that son-of-a-bitch and we'll take all the stuff from him and we'll give it to the workers. That's not the kind of revolution I had in mind. I thought that it might be nice if it was handled a little bit more modern and efficient way, without people getting slaughtered. It's a matter of infiltration…The people who are in control of the media, the government that run the lives of the average person in the street. They aren't doing a good job 'cause they don't really care. The potential is there in the younger generation. Right now they’re not really interested. Their political involvement is on a very superficial basis. They go out for the social aspects of a march or a rally rather than for what it could possibly accomplish. -FZ
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Ganoderma Hydronaut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,377	What I do is I clip the root tips 5-7 days before I transplant them into a different medium from the aero cloner. This causes the cutting to start to send out new root shoots/growth. This is the prime time to transplant, since they have started new root growth, the growth continues and they take off like weeds. This gives them less of a bump in the road between different mediums. __________________ Double Dutch F2's Hooked On Ponics The ReishiArium 1K RDWC grow My Double Dutch Grow
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03-04-2018, 03:18 PM	#4
beta Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 724	Rinse your coco very well with normal nutrient solution before or after you transplant into it.
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03-04-2018, 04:36 PM	#6
Mikell Dipshit Know-Nothing Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Van Isle, BC Posts: 4,971	Stunted unhealthy or stunted stalled? I lose a few days switching medium.
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03-04-2018, 07:48 PM	#8
Epic Resin Newbie Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	Hi all, Thanks for the responses: Chaos - that’s how I transplant them. Exactly the same way you describe. How long should the roots be? I thought the longer the better, this might be part of my trouble. Thoughts? Bush dr - I ph to 6.0 Beta - what ppm do you use. I use about 400, but don’t flush. I’ll try flushing this time. Bs gospel - burying too deep, interesting, never thought if that. They are under a 400w. They are like 2 ft away, I thought that would be okay. Running 300-350 ppm solution in the cloner. Roots all pure white. Mikel - stunted in both ways, I would say. I’m doing a clone run now. Would you guys mind sticking around. I’ll document with pics.
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03-04-2018, 09:12 PM	#10
stoned40yrs Ripped since 1965 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lost in Alaska Posts: 2,504	I've been rooting my clones in a homemade aerocloner and putting them in cups of coco for years and never had one fail. I'm going to assume you have good coco that comes precharged and is slightly damp when you squeeze it. 1) the more roots on the clone the better 2) Fill a party cup half full of coco then press it down compact with your knuckles. 3) Now take some of the feed you are going to be giving them as they grow- around 1.2ec and correct ph for coco- pour about 2-3 tablespoons of feed right into the center of the coco in the cup. 4) Now place your clone in the cup- roots right on the wet spot- and fill the cup up with coco covering at least 2 inches of the stalk. Compact coco with your fingers. 5) Very important- no harsh light for 3 days. if you run a 400w put all the clones a long ways from it and never under it. After 3 days you can gradually move them closer and they will take right off. 6) no domes- no sprays- don't fuck with them. they can go almost a week or until some coco on top starts drying before you feed them again. 100% success so far doing it this way. __________________ "Its expensive as hell to hang out on these boards if you take anyones word on anything!" Whobdobub-2009 "Im down to kick it... Just don't bring any pests with you! Coconutz-2014
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