[led05]

Originally Posted by paradoxlost

Studies have shown that plant saps flow fastest during a full moon, but also shows the ppfd/light spectrum from moonlight will not affect growth indoors. So that makes me think it's gravitational. Also at night the plant goes full mode into root signalling rather than photosynthesis. There are a bunch of different subtleties, I recommended The Secret Life of Plants to everyone who wants a complete picture on what plants do and do not do.

I agree and disagree... outdoor time is faster than indoor time, many studies to prove this., sunsets help as well which most don't simulate inside.

Your right, moonlight won't effect growth indoors but it will outside (effect a plants timing not so much growth), it speeds up the plants internal clock which effects many things.

I'm pretty sure on earth plants inside or outside are effected the same by gravity my friend

Exactly what drives this plants flowering response is vast, the above being just one.

[EasyGoing]

Originally Posted by jidoka

Crazy...those are all fed the same ratios. One formula start to finish. The difference is the strength and/or how many watering. For example the moms get 100% strength and more because of pot size. Babies are half strength and smaller pots

This is exactly what I am seeing. If something gets out of whack it's a special top dress or foliar, however everything is getting the same fertigation. Even in flower.

[growingcrazy]

I can 3 that... 1 res running veg and flower currently.

[led05]

Originally Posted by growingcrazy

I can 3 that... 1 res running veg and flower currently.

I'll 3 1/2 it.... everything same except for N

[EasyGoing]

Now for the real question, everybody running a 1-2-1?

[led05]

Originally Posted by EasyGoing

Now for the real question, everybody running a 1-2-1?

2-2-1 early veg, then 1-2-1 after about 4 weeks till end... I have a starter soil and a switch blend I use too, very similar though ratio wise.

[growingcrazy]

I make up for the N in veg with a top dress.

Also run a starter soil in anything under 1 gallon and a big veg plant mix in 5 gallons before transplants to beds. I separate my veg by plant size generally. Anything over 12-16" gets a big veg mix and nutrient rates, all under that get diluted nutrients and a less dense starter soil.

N is always under 100 in my res.

[growingcrazy]

How about one of you with the post count makes a private group for some of us? It might be in the best interest for this group. Just a thought?

[paradoxlost]

Originally Posted by led05

I agree and disagree... outdoor time is faster than indoor time, many studies to prove this., sunsets help as well which most don't simulate inside.

Your right, moonlight won't effect growth indoors but it will outside (effect a plants timing not so much growth), it speeds up the plants internal clock which effects many things.

I'm pretty sure on earth plants inside or outside are effected the same by gravity my friend

Exactly what drives this plants flowering response is vast, the above being just one.

Let me clarify. If you take the moonlight spectrum and ppfd and apply it to an indoor plant you don't see any appreciable changes.

They sap study was done on our door plants without an indoor control.

[jidoka]

Originally Posted by Rodehazrd

Hello Rodehazrd here with a simple question. Since starting to follow this thread I've read more and understood some I read a lot about what happens with the light present. This may be a simple thing to you experts but I want to know what is happening during the dark time and why do we need it during veg. Would a 24 hr veg time not be more efficient use of the time? Other than raising the electric budget is there any down side to constant growth? They grow some great product in Alaska and the dark time isn't much.

The plant breathes in, the plant breathes out. In is light > photosynthesis > sugar production. Out is greatly enhanced by lights out > sugar out the roots > feeds the microbes > break down minerals and chelate them. And lights on those minerals are taken up and the cycle repeats

So not important for hydro. Little bit important for slows method. Damn important for los.

Imo of course