[growingcrazy]

Nice Jidoka! Is that whole room on the same nutrition? I am guessing it is coco.

As far as my bed and soil numbers: (cliff notes)

N@199 - the bed has 3" mulch on top of the soil. I am guessing 125ppm in soil after run.

Mo - I was irrigating with micropak last round, running B @ 9ppm in solution. You can figure out the Mo ppm... Mo isn't a concern right now. (the S and N were expected to come at next amend...)

Low pH - This was from a couple low pH irrigation's after the bed was ammended. The new jug of pH solution was never shaken after being stored for a few months. The injector was pulling a higher concentration of solution off the bottom of the jug and it was settling to the bottom of the res(before air pump was installed). The pH probe was floating in the top of the res reading properly, while the irrigation pump was sitting in low pH solution... 3 irrigation's like this...

I didn't catch it until I pulled a water sample from a sprinkler. Shook the pH down, put the circulation pump in the res like I was planning (procrastination) and all is well.

No sleep lost and they received the final hit of k (300ppm) on day 35... I will not have to touch this bed again for 5 weeks... Harvest, Ca up, repeat.

[EasyGoing]

Am I the only one that feeds til harvest?

[led05]

Originally Posted by EasyGoing

Am I the only one that feeds til harvest?

I feed from seed emergence until cut, just diff amounts... Leaves still yellow and fall at end, just less feed putting in...

[led05]

Originally Posted by growingcrazy

Nice Jidoka! Is that whole room on the same nutrition? I am guessing it is coco.

As far as my bed and soil numbers: (cliff notes)

N@199 - the bed has 3" mulch on top of the soil. I am guessing 125ppm in soil after run.

Mo - I was irrigating with micropak last round, running B @ 9ppm in solution. You can figure out the Mo ppm... Mo isn't a concern right now. (the S and N were expected to come at next amend...)

Low pH - This was from a couple low pH irrigation's after the bed was ammended. The new jug of pH solution was never shaken after being stored for a few months. The injector was pulling a higher concentration of solution off the bottom of the jug and it was settling to the bottom of the res(before air pump was installed). The pH probe was floating in the top of the res reading properly, while the irrigation pump was sitting in low pH solution... 3 irrigation's like this...

I didn't catch it until I pulled a water sample from a sprinkler. Shook the pH down, put the circulation pump in the res like I was planning (procrastination) and all is well.

No sleep lost and they received the final hit of k (300ppm) on day 35... I will not have to touch this bed again for 5 weeks... Harvest, Ca up, repeat.

great post ! exactly why it pays to have critical thinking and understanding vs. simply knowing stuff and being told what to do

[jidoka]

Originally Posted by EasyGoing

Am I the only one that feeds til harvest?

Nope.

[growingcrazy]

Originally Posted by EasyGoing

Am I the only one that feeds til harvest?

I didn't say I am not feeding. I just don't have to touch the bed.

Notice how Slow comments on how I am pushing Calphos or some other obscure mineral through irrigation? My $50 vortex (The ones LED calls fancy) runs 24/7. Pre-digest, filter and irrigate. Sometimes with and without biologically active teas. Enzymes from sprouts, fermented LAB, Egg aminos... (think fish, but egg. Remember those chickens I raise?).

I am now (a few years now) implementing the system I have in place for my other crops, on Cannabis. Like an idiot I fell down the path of gimmicks and Canna specific methods when I first started cultivating indoors. Doing what I know, just relaxing and letting plants grow has brought the enjoyment back to growing. When a pepper plant outside puts a bigger smile on my face than a cannabis plant, it is time to take a step back and learn to enjoy the work again.

It is a good feeling.

[Rodehazrd]

Hello Rodehazrd here with a simple question. Since starting to follow this thread I've read more and understood some I read a lot about what happens with the light present. This may be a simple thing to you experts but I want to know what is happening during the dark time and why do we need it during veg. Would a 24 hr veg time not be more efficient use of the time? Other than raising the electric budget is there any down side to constant growth? They grow some great product in Alaska and the dark time isn't much.

[jidoka]

Crazy...those are all fed the same ratios. One formula start to finish. The difference is the strength and/or how many watering. For example the moms get 100% strength and more because of pot size. Babies are half strength and smaller pots

[led05]

Originally Posted by Rodehazrd

Hello Rodehazrd here with a simple question. Since starting to follow this thread I've read more and understood some I read a lot about what happens with the light present. This may be a simple thing to you experts but I want to know what is happening during the dark time and why do we need it during veg. Would a 24 hr veg time not be more efficient use of the time? Other than raising the electric budget is there any down side to constant growth? They grow some great product in Alaska and the dark time isn't much.

I think many struggle with this but to me it's rather simple. In order to get any plant to express itself to it's fullest potential you should try and mimic as closely as you can to it's origins for everything possible and where it grows naturally is the best you can do... If your plant comes from a spot with 24 hour light, then by all means...

Now, to complicate this. 12 hours of dark outside is not the same as 12 hours of dark inside... more like 13-14 hours inside. .Phytochrome - Pr and Pfr and it's ratio at day or night outside vs inside effects this.... The moon reflects far red quite well...

I digress

[paradoxlost]

Originally Posted by led05

I think many struggle with this but to me it's rather simple. In order to get any plant to express itself to it's fullest potential you should try and mimic as closely as you can to it's origins for everything possible and where it grows naturally is the best you can do... If your plant comes from a spot with 24 hour light, then by all means...

Now, to complicate this. 12 hours of dark outside is not the same as 12 hours of dark inside... more like 13-14 hours inside. .Phytochrome - Pr and Pfr and it's ratio at day or night outside vs inside effects this.... The moon reflects far red quite well...

I digress

Studies have shown that plant saps flow fastest during a full moon, but also shows the ppfd/light spectrum from moonlight will not affect growth indoors. So that makes me think it's gravitational. Also at night the plant goes full mode into root signalling rather than photosynthesis. There are a bunch of different subtleties, I recommended The Secret Life of Plants to everyone who wants a complete picture on what plants do and do not do.