[dybert]

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Typical of Drew's BS, and says more about him than me. On the other hand, why would we expect that he would change now?

The truth is that there is no 8 page document and no patent suits in progress.

This is however a perfect example of the length and outrageous BS that the con men flocking to our industry are willing to go to to defraud us.

Not just a difference in opinion regarding facts, but lies out of whole cloth. Sadly Drew is but one example of many now plaguing us like flies.

Also a perfect example of lying so much that you start to believe your own shit and forget that untrue harmful statements are slander.

There is in fact an interesting court case going on with Udoxi (Portland company) and Precision Extraction, a Detroit company. Its all about their patents on closed loop extraction.

(Side note: Udoxi is a bunch of idiots and their "system" was a HUGE fire hazard)

Systems for extracting solute from a source material:
US9144751B2

Methods for extracting solute from a source material:
US9145532B2

Methods for extracting solute from a source material
US9682333B2

Systems for extracting solute from a source material
US9682333B2

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by dybert

There is in fact an interesting court case going on with Udoxi (Portland company) and Precision Extraction, a Detroit company. Its all about their patents on closed loop extraction.

(Side note: Udoxi is a bunch of idiots and their "system" was a HUGE fire hazard)

Systems for extracting solute from a source material:
US9144751B2

Methods for extracting solute from a source material:
US9145532B2

Methods for extracting solute from a source material
US9682333B2

Systems for extracting solute from a source material
US9682333B2

Thanks, my statement qualified as no patent suits involving Moi. What's going on with Idoxi, and Precision Extraction?

[dybert]

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Thanks, my statement qualified as no patent suits involving Moi. What's going on with Idoxi, and Precision Extraction?

Udoxi is claiming that all of Precision's systems are infringing on their granted patents. The interesting thing is they're trying to force clients of Precision into court to be their evidence. Meaning they'd have to go on the stand and testify to participating in federally illegal activites.

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by dybert

Udoxi is claiming that all of Precision's systems are infringing on their granted patents. The interesting thing is they're trying to force clients of Precision into court to be their evidence. Meaning they'd have to go on the stand and testify to participating in federally illegal activites.

Never heard of Udoxi, and after looking them up, still don't recognize them. Does anyone on forum have any of their equipment?

[dybert]

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

Never heard of Udoxi, and after looking them up, still don't recognize them. Does anyone on forum have any of their equipment?

I have talked with them in depth years ago... Ironically I went to high school with one of their founders...

I firmly believe they have not sold any systems, for sure not any state licensed ones. The demo system that I saw, was horrific. Their collection chamber shorted out while I was standing next to it and started sparking against the outer shell of it. Very scary. All of their product pictures posted to their instagram are mediocre at best.

[dybert]

double post.

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by dybert

I have talked with them in depth years ago... Ironically I went to high school with one of their founders...

I firmly believe they have not sold any systems, for sure not any state licensed ones. The demo system that I saw, was horrific. Their collection chamber shorted out while I was standing next to it and started sparking against the outer shell of it. Very scary. All of their product pictures posted to their instagram are mediocre at best.

Watching the cannabis market mature has been an enlightening experience, starting with process research and legalization efforts.

The process development was the fun part, because our opponents to legalization haven't played fair.

By the nature of our beginnings, we started out heavily populated with "outlaws", as defined by someone who operates(d) outside the law and because of the financial potential, we've drawn scalawags and carpet baggers from other industries.

Not everyone is here to win by selling the best product and providing the best service. Legalization has in fact resulted in a higher grade product overall, but it has also forced some out of business, and gold is where you find it, so some of those are looking for alternative income sources.

There are also some whose business has always been to find ways to extort money from those whose business is based on quality and service, so no surprise they are flooding in now looking for victims.

As a nation with more attorneys than the rest of the world combined, it should be no surprise that one means to victims gold is subverting the legal system.

Sad to watch, but the reality we find ourselves in and the price of admission to the game.

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by dybert

I have talked with them in depth years ago... Ironically I went to high school with one of their founders...

I firmly believe they have not sold any systems, for sure not any state licensed ones. The demo system that I saw, was horrific. Their collection chamber shorted out while I was standing next to it and started sparking against the outer shell of it. Very scary. All of their product pictures posted to their instagram are mediocre at best.

PS:

I pulled up their site, but no pictures. I do note they are here in River City, but alas no address to drop by for a show and tell either.

Their page is pushing essential oils extraction other than cannabis, like hops and lavender, and you have to sign in to see the customers, for a more complete view.

Was their system similar to Precision's, other than quality and functionality?

[SkyHighLer]

Udoxi website,

https://udoxiscientific.com/patents/


"Udoxi Scientific, LLC holds the following US Patents:

U.S. Patent 9,145,532 B2 – Methods For Extracting Solute From A Source Material

U.S. Patent 9,144,751 B2- Systems For Extracting Solute From A Source Material

Udoxi Scientific has been awarded 2 US patents: U.S. Patent 9,144,751 B2 and U.S. Patent 9,145,532 B2 on their equipment and process. Two continuation in parts on these patents have published on December 17, 2015 as Publication No. US 2015-0360144 and Publication No. US 2015-0361376. Udoxi has another continuation in part pending as well as the pending Liquid Amber patent. Udoxi continues their tradition of creating Intellectual property relevant to natural product extraction and manufacturing."


Links to the granted patents,

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9587203B2

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9682333B2

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9587203B2

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9145532B2

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9144751B2



Udoxi Scientific, LLC v. Precision Extraction Corporation

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...on_Corporation



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[dybert]

Originally Posted by Gray Wolf

PS:

I pulled up their site, but no pictures. I do note they are here in River City, but alas no address to drop by for a show and tell either.

Their page is pushing essential oils extraction other than cannabis, like hops and lavender, and you have to sign in to see the customers, for a more complete view.

Was their system similar to Precision's, other than quality and functionality?

It was a primitive rack mounted system of several columns, and valves to isolate them so you could run continuously while reloading a column...

all piped to this huge, like 50gal recovery vat, that was electrically heated, and shorting out when I saw it.

If you check out their instagram page they have I think 1 picture of crude BHO and it looks terrible.