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Old 02-16-2018, 08:38 PM #261
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As far back as I can remember the FBI hasn’t given regular updates on current investigations, a fact that is overlooked these days by some.

And while I dislike politicians as a whole, it would be refreshing to only wake up to an email “scandal” versus the broken sewer pipe that currently flows unrestricted.
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everything in the present and "future" is related to what came before.
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everything in the present and "future" is related to what came before.
to truly understand the of the past to the here and now we must keep in mind that we all at some point choose how to let that past effect us and everyone has a different background which means we are not all effected equally

what we do with this information and how we let it shape mankind is up to us and as evolution has revealed success lie in abundance and diversity not in trying to keep the past alive forever
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to truly understand the of the past to the here and now we must keep in mind that we all at some point choose how to let that past effect us and everyone has a different background which means we are not all effected equally

what we do with this information and how we let it shape mankind is up to us and as evolution has revealed success lie in abundance and diversity not in trying to keep the past alive forever
I never said any thing about keeping the past alive for ever?
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to truly understand the of the past to the here and now we must keep in mind that we all at some point choose how to let that past effect us and everyone has a different background which means we are not all effected equally

what we do with this information and how we let it shape mankind is up to us and as evolution has revealed success lie in abundance and diversity not in trying to keep the past alive forever
Yes Weird " nail on head",,
makes me sad when i see and hear good people tearing themselves
up over awful shit that happened before i was born,,,,,
time for any guilt by association of country or nationality to be
kicked into the past where it belongs,,,,,s2
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I never said any thing about keeping the past alive for ever?

No but both views polarized enough to make a good example, it was not a critique just an observation
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No but both views polarized enough to make a good example, it was not a critique just an observation
you misunderstood what i wrote.

it was simple.

the past effects the present and "future", nothing can stop that. Its not my opinion, its a fact.

anything else you are suggesting about polarization is coming from your own mind.
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you misunderstood what i wrote.

it was simple.

the past effects the present and "future", nothing can stop that. Its not my opinion, its a fact.

anything else you are suggesting about polarization is coming from your own mind.

I understand what you wrote but the future isn't written yet and not everyone knows of the past.

The law of cause and effect is a constant, how cause and effect is manifested through us is not.

Those two elements, the law of cause and effect, and the liberty for us to individually perceive and effect causation is also a constant. This is further complicated by our ability to perceive the same phenomenon differently.

The past reveals the human condition under a set of specific circumstances at a certain time of development both as a race and individually. To try to understand it out of relative context takes away the value, to accept it as fate is to abandon free will.

There is a middle road here which is ultimately my point.
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True but we do still have military bases in Germany and Italy just to remind who conquered them.

Really politically they do both have a lot of problems especially with the migrant problem we could see another Hitler we are backing neo Nazis in the Ukraine.

Kind of funny how the US government is, we push both sides and get people fighting then they still work with us.

Even helped Napoleon and Hitler get a start. Lol
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I understand what you wrote but the future isn't written yet and not everyone knows of the past.

The law of cause and effect is a constant, how cause and effect is manifested through us is not.

Those two elements, the law of cause and effect, and the liberty for us to individually perceive and effect causation is also a constant. This is further complicated by our ability to perceive the same phenomenon differently.

The past reveals the human condition under a set of specific circumstances at a certain time of development both as a race and individually. To try to understand it out of relative context takes away the value, to accept it as fate is to abandon free will.

There is a middle road here which is ultimately my point.
That still has nothing to do with what I wrote.

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Once again, weird, human races do not exist.

how do you know the future isn't written yet?

Science and eastern philosophy point to free will being a mere illusion.

we have already argued these points before.
not sure why you are looking to start it up again with me.
I wish you would get over it.
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