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Old 01-14-2018, 07:54 PM #21
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OK guys ! update.
sorry it took a while. i have been super busty these days. but now im here

this is the mother plant and her babies.
how they look now.


i think they look much better, what do you guys think?
i replanted the smaller ones in a much more "less fertilized" soil. half the fertilizer-dose that i used in the first place. (see my first post, soilmix)
i also slow down on the watering significally.
do they look healthy? is it anything i could improve?
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:55 PM #22
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some of the plants did not respond so well to my treatment. these are the worst ones. and they still look sick.

i have started giving them cal-mag and phosporus.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:14 PM #23
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this is another plant.
i have noticed some of the leafs starting to curl, you can see on the picture. curling invards along the side of the leaf. anyone have any suggestions on why this is?




and once again, THANK you everybody that took your time and help me on the right path.
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Yeah I'm thinking too that your mix was too hot initially, with no proper micro herd. Whole lotta cow shit in there...
I'd always be careful with manures... they tend to bring bad shit with them literally, especially anaerobic bacteria that will fuck up your soil.
Use worm castings and bat shit if necessary.
Another problem to keep in mind when using blood meal is that it takes a while for the iron from the blood to be available from my experience, better let your soil cook with right humidity, moist not wet not dry, for 2weeks+ before planting anything... add some Liquid Karma to help the microbes get going during that time.
I have yet to see a too hot soil with micro herd thriving, meaning that these little guys pretty much sort everything out for you if they're doing well...
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I'm sure they'll pull through though
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They look like they're headed in the right direction. Calcium is needed for sure- will take a lil time to see it come back around. Careful with the Mg. It's quite hard to knock it out in order to make space for Ca. If you have any other sources of calcium, work with those.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:06 PM #26
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Yeah I'm thinking too that your mix was too hot initially, with no proper micro herd. Whole lotta cow shit in there...
I'd always be careful with manures... they tend to bring bad shit with them literally, especially anaerobic bacteria that will fuck up your soil.
Use worm castings and bat shit if necessary.
Another problem to keep in mind when using blood meal is that it takes a while for the iron from the blood to be available from my experience, better let your soil cook with right humidity, moist not wet not dry, for 2weeks+ before planting anything... add some Liquid Karma to help the microbes get going during that time.
I have yet to see a too hot soil with micro herd thriving, meaning that these little guys pretty much sort everything out for you if they're doing well...
All the best and a happy harvest,
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I'm sure they'll pull through though
so for the next run, i could skip the cow manure and use worm castings instead? i also have bat guanu at home, but did not use it for this grow.
i actually did let the mix cook/compost for about 4 weeks, the mix turned really hot (literally, it became warm). but i guess it turned out to be too much of the good stuff for the plants
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They look like they're headed in the right direction. Calcium is needed for sure- will take a lil time to see it come back around. Careful with the Mg. It's quite hard to knock it out in order to make space for Ca. If you have any other sources of calcium, work with those.
thanks for the tip! you have any recomendation on a good source of calcium? preferably something i can find in the food store or at the pharmacy. thanks for the reply!
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There is nothing wrong with hot soil, as long as it has rested enough for the pH to become stable.

What you should always do, is top hot soil up with an inch of light soil, put the plant on top of that and fill the sides with more light soil. If you then give a light dose (0.2 EC) of a high P/K late bloom fertilizer, the roots will grow into the medium without a problem, because they have the space to adapt to it.
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There is nothing wrong with hot soil, as long as it has rested enough for the pH to become stable.

What you should always do, is top hot soil up with an inch of light soil, put the plant on top of that and fill the sides with more light soil. If you then give a light dose (0.2 EC) of a high P/K late bloom fertilizer, the roots will grow into the medium without a problem, because they have the space to adapt to it.
thanks for the good advice tanzanianmagic! i did let the soil rest for about 4 weeks before putting the plants in it, but the soil did not become stable enough i think. (ph problems as shown earlier in the thread) probably me not mixing it properly.

i will definitly use your method when replanting in the future.
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come to think of it, could this be nitrogen toxicity ? very dark green, shiny leafs, curling tips. think i will do a flush on this one.
what you guys think?


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come to think of it, could this be nitrogen toxicity ? very dark green, shiny leafs, curling tips. think i will do a flush on this one.
what you guys think?


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Magnesium, because of the purple stems and deep green leaves, plus the knowledge that weed uses a lot of magnesium anyway.

If it's lockout rather than a nutrient deficiency, whatever the plants needs most of at that moment in it's development, is what is going to show up as a nutrient deficiency. In late vegging to early flowering, the plant needs more magnesium and phosphorus. Low temperatures can also lockout magnesium.
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