[MountainBudz]

Originally Posted by dank.frank

If Gnu is such a great person, why is he not GIVING away the work for FREE?

Why is he charging anything at all? OH I KNOW.

Because he is a capitalist pig whose only goal is to make money - he doesn't care if it is accomplished by stealing the hard work and reputation of others.

MoneyMike spent nearly 6 years on I95. Gnu spent all of 4 months stealing that work. Just like he stole Polar Bear from Karma Genetics. Just like he'll steal from ANYONE that he thinks he can make a come up on.



dank.Frank

Dank, I don't know if I can agree with your point out of Gu~ being after the dollar... If that is the case why is his beans so cheap? Do you know what the FULL price of Night Rider is??? $37.00. You will not find, no where, whatsoever, another company or breeder letting go of genetics that fire, for that cheap. And usually with a discount code you can get them even cheaper... Almost everything he has to offer is dirt cheap.

Now I believe if he was after money that bad, he would kick up the prices 3 fold more than what they already are.

Like American Grower said, once these beans are sold and out of the hands of the breeder, basically they are yours to do what you please with. I understand I95 is Money Mikes work... Yes I do, very much so... All Gu~ did was made a cross with it... What is the big deal??? He is not selling straight "I95" he is selling a CROSS called Night Rider...

He is not stealing anything. I don't know the whole scenario behind Polar Bear but i'm sure he didn't steal it.

[MountainBudz]

By the way, he also gives out discount codes, sales, cheap as dirt auctions, discounts on his cash/money order shipping and where his seed packs are in the quantity of 10, you will usually get 13 per pack. I don't see anything money hungry or greedy about the man.

[MountainBudz]

Nobody in the business gives things out for free... Yes sometimes they do, but they have to make profit... Like I said before, take brothers Grimm for example and their c99... The cross is everywhere almost all breeders play with it. That's how you spread the love. If it was kept tight and solid the beans or clones would not leave the breeders hands in the first place, they would be completely inaccessible... All breeders use a piece of another breeders work. Just the way it is bud.

[MountainBudz]

Why does EVERYONE use Rezs work? Everybody has diesels... Same with chemdog. How do you think everyone is making crosses

[dank.frank]

Originally Posted by MountainBudz

Nobody in the business gives things out for free...

MoneyMike gave me 30 I95 seeds in 2013. For free. Case and point.



dank.Frank

[jidoka]

I don’t know much. But I know the dude that took I95 and crossed it with chem d made a better product. I applaud him and I hope gp hits one out the park also

They bought it, they own it imo

[beanz]

the age old seed debate .....snooze

[dank.frank]

Gnu didn't buy Polar Bear. He got it as a tester from Karma and then made seeds and released them before Karma even decided if the line was good enough for public release.

Gnu didn't buy I95 seeds. It's impossible. They haven't been released publicly. Go figure.


"made a better product"

Are you KIDDING ME? Based on WHAT parameters.

He doesn't even know what I95 was SUPPOSED to be, from a breeders goal perspective, to even be able to improve upon it.

You can find posts of mine that say the EXACT same thing. If you bought it, you own it. It is yours. Do as you will. I say that very thing about genetics I have made and sold. I encourage people to do so and will actually help them select the best phenos to use to help them keep things within desired strain parameters.

But. I'm not JJNYC. I'm not TopDawg Seeds, who on NUMEROUS occasions has asked people not to F2 his work or incross his lines for public release. He feels it takes money out of his pocket - and technically, he is correct.

I'm not defending MY personal opinion. I'm defending the WILL of the breeder of this company. When $mike joined under TopDawg, the same rules applied to his workings. This isn't rocket science.

It's about respect. I think, in light of this breeders policy, what Gnu is doing is THEFT, because that is how it is perceived by the creators of these genes. Not to mention, again, he has zero "ownership" of them via some thinly veiled self justifications of having purchased them.



dank.Frank

[Americangrower]

Well I don't agree with the not producing crosses with Topdawg seeds as there are a ton of breeders doing it.
As for thief's I agree what GU did with Polar Bear was flat out wrong. Then again what Tiger Trees did to Inkognyto was even worse and people (not me) still buy his Tiger trees and Compound genetics seeds.

[jidoka]

Based on 36% THCa and it’s effects on me. Your results may differ but I don’t give a single fuck. Sell a seed and it ain’t yours, give a seed, lose a seed wtfever