[Smug_Pepe]

Originally Posted by Oregonism

Is there any place in the conversation for taxes? What iam seeing is high taxes on the end users and an inflation of the market, most coming from the myriad of reasons above....

and what about med patients? Med programs have taken some hits....

If there is federal legalization, I can see craft breeding surviving on local climates....

Taxes will be the only saving grace for the small time home grower. My state just elected 25% tax on rec, for med there is no tax but u have to have a card.

The sick thing is is that rec will still be selling for normal street retail price, add the taxes and they are the ones that won't be able to compete.

Home growing is legal here, so I hope big Canna business can't compete and they leave as fast as they came.

[Smug_Pepe]

I am enjoying the freedom of outdoor growing and smoking where ever the fuck I want but I still hope to maintain a little side hustle.

[mushroombrew]

Originally Posted by moose eater

20 years ago I could still get good mid-grade to upper-mid-grade Moroccan hash in NL, (Katema Gold was sticky to touch, and while not Black Nepali slab or temple balls, it was respectable).

I still have a fair showing of high-end seeds from the early 70s through the early 80s, and despite the various tricks I was taught re. bringing elderly seed stock to life, the viability/fertility rates are dismal at best.

I've tried using fine sand paper to remove a minor amount of the layer of the outer seed husk on the 'rib' of the seeds, soaking over-night in 8 oz. of distilled H2O with one drop of liquid chlorine bleach, then straight to paper towels wetted with distilled H2O and a weak dilution of Vitamin B, etc. The best thus far was for roots to pop through the husk, then lose vitality shortly thereafter.

But there's some red/orange Thai bud from the early 80's, some Acapulco Gold from the early 70s, Columbian Gold from the early mid-70s, and a collection of others whose labels raise the eye-brows a bit.. I wish they were as fertile as their labels are impressive.

Look into GA3 and old seeds.

[moose eater]

Pardon my ignorance; look where? how? GA3?

Unfamiliar terms, with the exception of 'old seeds.' Plenty familiar with -that- term..

Originally Posted by mushroombrew

Look into GA3 and old seeds.

[moose eater]

Unlike the later 70s and early 80s when outdoor-grown weed was fairly rampant in some places in Ak, before Ravin V. State and legislative decrim got choked by the later series of legislative-sponsored statutes, most all areas in the State now forbid any cultivation of cannabis in view of the public.

Not sure how serious the Authorities are re. enforcement of this, and don't really want to find out on a personal level. Though I've toyed with the thought (and only toyed) that most 6 mil poly (whether reinforced or not) is more of a 'smoke' type of clarity, and not really transparent without distortion to the image of what lays on the other side. Thus I've been curious as to whether if someone had a locked greenhouse containing an otherwise conforming (in terms of numbers, etc.) personal grow, and the plants weren't truly identifiable from the outside, other than perhaps by profile/stature, would that skate past the 'plain view to the public' barrier?

I don't want to be the sorry individual who discovers a less-than-pleasing answer to that question, so I'll wait for some other (more courageous) seeker of truths to poke that nest.

Originally Posted by Smug_Pepe

I am enjoying the freedom of outdoor growing and smoking where ever the fuck I want but I still hope to maintain a little side hustle.

[mushroombrew]

Originally Posted by moose eater

Pardon my ignorance; look where? how? GA3?

Unfamiliar terms, with the exception of 'old seeds.' Plenty familiar with -that- term..

Gibberellic acid. Growth hormone. Not particularly useful in Cannabis except for germination.

https://www.crfg.org/tidbits/gibberellic.html

[St. Phatty]

It depends on the Details of Implementation.

I would say Oregon is in Epic Fail state as far as its Rec. program - because of quality problems, e.g. 18 month old kif'ed bud being sold as "good fresh Cannabis". @ "Diamond Cannabis"

Also because of the high prices at the places that don't have quality problems - NYC prices, $420 an ounce.

I have been gifted quality Indica from a friend who was homeless when I first met him. He hung out at the local coffee shop. If I wanted to buy it, it would be about $100 an ounce.

California did a good job with their medical marijuana program. I would call it a great job if they had kept the "smoking allowed on-site" policy that some dispensaries had in the 00's.

When I say good job, I mean a grower who wanted some bud to spell them 2 weeks till harvest could get some A+++ Cannabis for a reasonable price.


This summer I have 4 beautiful & legal plants & I'm enthusiastic about that !!

[moose eater]

Thanks!!

Originally Posted by mushroombrew

Gibberellic acid. Growth hormone. Not particularly useful in Cannabis except for germination.

https://www.crfg.org/tidbits/gibberellic.html

[Mr. Lovebuzzed]

if legalization means tendency to control, control absolutely. then yeah it has to kill any enthusiasm

[Jellyfish]

Putting the sale and distribution of cannabis under government supervision is a big mistake. They treat it like some radioactive poison, and put all these regulations and tests on it.

When the reality is, when did you ever buy weed illegally that made you sick or had other similar negative effects? 98% of you will say 'never'.

Personally, I don't mind dealing with the black market, because I trust it more than the government.