[MedResearcher]

Smart, thanks for the tips and all the help.

From the picture sort of looks like one of the air lifts enters the tank through a custom hole. I really like that idea, I bet it helps prevent splashing leaving the tank.

So busy lately have to squeeze in time to work on the build. I am sure once I make some progress and get stuck again, I may come running for more help!

Thanks,
Mr^^

[MedResearcher]

Never ending 12 hour work days... but I have almost gotten to the new brewer and tea delivery system!

Ended up getting a Gast R3, looks like a nice pump. The wiring threw me for a loop so I haven't hooked it up yet until I can get a little confirmation on the correct wiring.

I have been scouring the information forum for that PDF file with no luck. Tons of interesting information. Was hoping you could point me towards the general direction of the PDF.

Also, after reading as much as I could handle I noticed you mentioned a second airlift on larger brewers might increase DO. So now I have another decision to make! The simplicity and ease of cleaning of 1 airlift is nice, although more DO sounds nice as well!

Thanks,
Mr^^

[Microbeman]

No help on the wiring, sorry. I just got one that plugs in.

[Microbeman]

These files could help although I'm not sure which model you selected.

https://gastmfg.com/uploads/data-sheets/LTD169.pdf

Has wiring info in decent detail.
https://gastmfg.com/uploads/manuals/70-6000-L.pdf

https://gastmfg.com/uploads/catalogs/...012_lo-res.pdf

[gmanwho]

So no thoughts on my teas turning so thick? it almost reminds me when you just add in flour or corn starch to make a gravy.

it seems to be working....


on another note. trying out the azos from extreme gardening. Azospirillum brasilense .

can anyone chime in on brewing Azospirillum brasilense. im sure it will multiply. but is there any microbes it will not blend well with? ph specific? is it a microbe that could easily die off when specific minerals are present from later salt nutrients? phosphorous etc??

found alot of info on the spore itself but nothing on brewing behaviors etc...

[gmanwho]

Originally Posted by MedResearcher

Ended up getting a Gast R3, looks like a nice pump. The wiring threw me for a loop so I haven't hooked it up yet until I can get a little confirmation on the correct wiring.

what is the questions on the wires? is there wires for a inline capacitor?

[Microbeman]

Originally Posted by gmanwho

So no thoughts on my teas turning so thick? it almost reminds me when you just add in flour or corn starch to make a gravy.

it seems to be working....


on another note. trying out the azos from extreme gardening. Azospirillum brasilense .

can anyone chime in on brewing Azospirillum brasilense. im sure it will multiply. but is there any microbes it will not blend well with? ph specific? is it a microbe that could easily die off when specific minerals are present from later salt nutrients? phosphorous etc??

found alot of info on the spore itself but nothing on brewing behaviors etc...

Your concoction and method are far removed from typical ACT so I really cannot venture a guess.

[BlackMarketMic]

Thanks for all the great info in this thread, I will have to take the time to read through the 80+ pages. I started making my own act a few weeks ago and I immediately noticed overall positive effects on all the plants I have tried it on. The first time I heard about aerated compost tea was after watching a you tube episode of growing your greens with jon and he had the boogie brew guy on his show for a few episodes and I started reading into it. After reading your info on microbeorganics I felt like your info was much more logical and well described unlike other act experts who aren't as accurate in explaining the reasons for telling you to do this or not to do that without explaining the facts and details behind the recipe and method of brewing.

I am wondering about the recipe's from boogie brew? I know you don't need to use all that extra stuff they recommend but most of those amendments/ingredients will fertilize at the same time but wouldn't that also over saturate the compost tea mix? I want to try making different teas from natural amendments and plants that I would soak in another aerated bucket to have a more varied organic diet for my cannabis and veggies. So far I use act and occasionally homemade bat guano tea and occasionally fish emulsion but that stinks and I won't use it inside anymore. Looking for proven herbal soaked teas to compliment the act.. Any recommendations?

[bsgospel]

A soaked tea? like an anaerobic?

Haven't used the exact boogie brew recipes I found on their site but I've used most of those ingredients in different capacities. Greensand or Oyster I don't use until mid-flower. And if I recall, microbeman has indicated that too much kelp can actually inhibit growth of hyphae for an extra day. Not that it wouldn't be beneficial but it would just take longer. About 2% kelp instead of Boogie Brew's recommended 10%.

As far as over saturation, I think we need to look at it in a different way. No matter the amount of ingredients your PPM or EC will typically be fairly low. But we don't care about that. We care about the variety and amount of bacteria/fungus we introduce. Instead of using a pen or a meter to measure our brews 'intensity', we throw it under a microscope. There are plenty of youtube videos demonstrating what to look for, some from the microbeman himself. So just because we have a 'saturated' (read: chock full of beneficials) tea, it's just more chance for inoculation or arbuscular growth on our roots. A saturated tea with well developed roots sounds heavenly. You have to judge the stage of your plant to determine if they can take a hot mix or if it needs to be diluted but more or less ingredients shouldn't be a factor as long as all the beneficials receive oxygen.

[Microbeman]

Originally Posted by BlackMarketMic

Thanks for all the great info in this thread, I will have to take the time to read through the 80+ pages. I started making my own act a few weeks ago and I immediately noticed overall positive effects on all the plants I have tried it on. The first time I heard about aerated compost tea was after watching a you tube episode of growing your greens with jon and he had the boogie brew guy on his show for a few episodes and I started reading into it. After reading your info on microbeorganics I felt like your info was much more logical and well described unlike other act experts who aren't as accurate in explaining the reasons for telling you to do this or not to do that without explaining the facts and details behind the recipe and method of brewing.

I am wondering about the recipe's from boogie brew? I know you don't need to use all that extra stuff they recommend but most of those amendments/ingredients will fertilize at the same time but wouldn't that also over saturate the compost tea mix? I want to try making different teas from natural amendments and plants that I would soak in another aerated bucket to have a more varied organic diet for my cannabis and veggies. So far I use act and occasionally homemade bat guano tea and occasionally fish emulsion but that stinks and I won't use it inside anymore. Looking for proven herbal soaked teas to compliment the act.. Any recommendations?

Using a whole bunch of stuff like boogie brew does only serves to suppress microbial division and growth. In all of boogie brew's propaganda do you see one single instance of data showing the microbial populations? This is what I have endeavored to do from the very beginning through video of my microscopy.

Plain and simple, if any company does not present data, then they do not even know the efficacy of their product.

The purpose for making ACT is to extract and multiply microorganisms from compost or vermicompost which cycle nutrients (to plants) and/or provide pathogen resistance.

NOT to provide direct nutrients.

If you wish to use ingredients which benefit the plants then there is no point going through the effort of putting them into an ACT maker. Just mix them into water or topdress them.

I and others have posted numerous botanical tea formulations on this forum.

On the subject of John from growing greens, I've reached out to him several times over the past 4 or 5 years to help him understand what compost tea is really about. He has 100% ignored me. I guess there is no money in it for him.