What did it feel like to Grow back then ??? - Old Stoners Crash Pad - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

TerpeneTom · 05-02-2017, 08:41 PM

What did it feel like to grow and smoke back when the industry was in its infancy? It's amazing now as all I really feel is worry that my flowers won't look as good as the next guys lol.

I'm just thinking it must've felt pretty damn interesting, but also pretty damn scary.

Shcrews · 05-02-2017, 09:25 PM

what years are you talking about? the "industry" as i understand it began circa 2000 in california when dispensaries started popping up. but the black market existed long before then.

to answer your question, although i was pretty young then mind you,... growing weed back in those days was like taking candy from a baby. even the worst stuff would fetch over $3000 per pound, as long as it looked decent. strain hoarding was very prevalent back then, certain strains were known to sell for $10,000 per clone.

TerpeneTom · 05-02-2017, 10:32 PM

I suppose "industry" is the wrong term, "culture" is the word I was looking for.

I was reading Kesey and Thompson and they kinda talk about the "American Dream" and all that, and it seems like being involved with Cannabis kinda gave you the feeling of a cowboy or, really, living the American dream

Lester Beans · 05-02-2017, 10:58 PM

Well in the late 80's standing in a 4k room was quite scary because if caught you would be looking at 10 years. Not sleeping until the sun comes up because they usually kick doors in at night. Making sure you have a lawyer on speed dial. Spending a lot of time and money modifying vehicles with hidden compartments to transport an ounce stealth like, which was the only way or you were fucked silly if caught.

Not talking to family or friends for months on end. Living in the woods in the summer like an escapee. Trying to find someone to buy weed from or the opposite because people had to be vetted carefully, lots went down selling to cops.

10 years later feeling great getting caught with two z's and only getting three years probation and no time. Things are more relaxed but still sketchy.

Pulling off a large grow back in the day took balls and getting rid of it bigger balls. Frayed nerves that will never be right even if it became legal. Those stresses took a physical toll on a man.

Then present day, still not legal and certainly some risk involved. I don't play like that anymore, can't take the stress. I think about it when out back of a bar some 20 something kid hands me a dooby and blabs about his big grow and killer weed. Be nice to deck him just for the hell of it. People just don't know how it was and what its like to risk your life to grow killer herb for your family and friends. Maybe pay the grocery bill in the process.

Obviously I don't live in Cali, and I just hope to be able to grow some weed someday without worrying.

Bush Dr · 05-03-2017, 06:33 PM

IT was hard work, modifying street lights, etc, timers were old brass clockwork devices that you had to wire a relay to ...etc

It may be rosy to grow in parts of the USA, but try that in the UK and you can still get 14 yrs in jail ...fucking long way we've come in 80 yrs

xavier7995 · 05-03-2017, 08:23 PM

Not really "long ago" but I first grew in the 90s in the Midwest...and they were behind the times so was like 1964

We grew outside, went to a few indoor ops with my parents during the 80s and early 90s that were just rooms full of florescent tubes, but that was not really the norm. It was terribly hard to find good grow info, you had to make friends with old hippies or bikers and just sort of go with their word. There was not as much bickering and light shit talking; though collectively, the people involved were much much more dangerous than now. I think it kind of made people behave better. We were not hip to mail order seeds so genetics was just growing seeds from the best weed you could find, though I more sophisticated growers were certainly hitting up the dutch. People would come back from California with mind blowing seedless weed, it just wasn't something we knew how to do in my locale.

Other than liking the culture/people a bit more; holy crap it's amazing to grow weed now. Not going to jail and minimal worry about people killing you for a lb is a breath of fresh air. Most folks I knew that were really into growing split for CA right around 2000 when it opened up and damn that was amazing, was a domestic Amsterdam.

Oh...and mexican brick weed could still be awesome sometimes.

Lester Beans · 05-04-2017, 07:31 AM

I sure wish I knew what it was like to grow worry free. I hope everyone that does appreciates what the old cats have done so they have the freedom. Trust fund growers are buying the beers as far as I'm concerned!

St. Phatty · 05-04-2017, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TerpeneTom

I suppose "industry" is the wrong term, "culture" is the word I was looking for.

I was reading Kesey and Thompson and they kinda talk about the "American Dream" and all that, and it seems like being involved with Cannabis kinda gave you the feeling of a cowboy or, really, living the American dream

When $1K a quarter was a friendly price and 50 pounds was easily & semi-legally attainable ...

I think the early years of legalization will be looked at as Prime Years profit-wise.

It's a separate subject but ... to me it looks like the industry is headed towards a massive over-supply condition. From talking to grow supply managers, looking at maps, etc.

I think world Cannabis production will be at a peak in 2017 but who is going to smoke it all ?

Until they legalize in Singapore and we can legally export there.

ctg · 05-05-2017, 05:55 AM

Outdoors and then to custom boxes with floros in the early years, lots of paranoia and thievery. Has come a long way since, lots of ups and downs. Glad to be where we are but shouldn't become lazy or not be cautious. Interesting times for sure

Lester Beans · 05-05-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Phatty

When $1K a quarter was a friendly price and 50 pounds was easily & semi-legally attainable ...

I think the early years of legalization will be looked at as Prime Years profit-wise.

It's a separate subject but ... to me it looks like the industry is headed towards a massive over-supply condition. From talking to grow supply managers, looking at maps, etc.

I think world Cannabis production will be at a peak in 2017 but who is going to smoke it all ?

Until they legalize in Singapore and we can legally export there.

50 lbs was semi legal??? I want to live on that planet!

I am sure there will be a surplus of cannabis, how can there not be. Everyone and their mother is growing now. The big difference is the guy with the proper high end herb will always have a buyer. Usually before the grow even happens.

The sheep will be happy with the hay. Can even use it for bedding!

Its getting harder and harder to find good proper weed. Surplus yes, quality not so much..

05-02-2017, 09:25 PM	#2
Shcrews DO WHO YOU BE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: (831) / (310) / (209) Posts: 6,953	what years are you talking about? the "industry" as i understand it began circa 2000 in california when dispensaries started popping up. but the black market existed long before then. to answer your question, although i was pretty young then mind you,... growing weed back in those days was like taking candy from a baby. even the worst stuff would fetch over $3000 per pound, as long as it looked decent. strain hoarding was very prevalent back then, certain strains were known to sell for $10,000 per clone. __________________ Current grow: Motherlode Gardens 2017
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05-02-2017, 10:58 PM	#4
Lester Beans Frequent Flyer Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ~ In The Garden Pulling Weeds ~ Posts: 3,223	Well in the late 80's standing in a 4k room was quite scary because if caught you would be looking at 10 years. Not sleeping until the sun comes up because they usually kick doors in at night. Making sure you have a lawyer on speed dial. Spending a lot of time and money modifying vehicles with hidden compartments to transport an ounce stealth like, which was the only way or you were fucked silly if caught. Not talking to family or friends for months on end. Living in the woods in the summer like an escapee. Trying to find someone to buy weed from or the opposite because people had to be vetted carefully, lots went down selling to cops. 10 years later feeling great getting caught with two z's and only getting three years probation and no time. Things are more relaxed but still sketchy. Pulling off a large grow back in the day took balls and getting rid of it bigger balls. Frayed nerves that will never be right even if it became legal. Those stresses took a physical toll on a man. Then present day, still not legal and certainly some risk involved. I don't play like that anymore, can't take the stress. I think about it when out back of a bar some 20 something kid hands me a dooby and blabs about his big grow and killer weed. Be nice to deck him just for the hell of it. People just don't know how it was and what its like to risk your life to grow killer herb for your family and friends. Maybe pay the grocery bill in the process. Obviously I don't live in Cali, and I just hope to be able to grow some weed someday without worrying.
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05-03-2017, 06:33 PM	#5
Bush Dr Painting the picture of Dorian Gray Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,216	IT was hard work, modifying street lights, etc, timers were old brass clockwork devices that you had to wire a relay to ...etc It may be rosy to grow in parts of the USA, but try that in the UK and you can still get 14 yrs in jail ...fucking long way we've come in 80 yrs __________________ This ain't no ordinary herb I'm smoking - Fantan Mojah Supermoto for that eXtra buzz A friend in need is a friend in debt
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05-03-2017, 08:23 PM	#6
xavier7995 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 282	Not really "long ago" but I first grew in the 90s in the Midwest...and they were behind the times so was like 1964 We grew outside, went to a few indoor ops with my parents during the 80s and early 90s that were just rooms full of florescent tubes, but that was not really the norm. It was terribly hard to find good grow info, you had to make friends with old hippies or bikers and just sort of go with their word. There was not as much bickering and light shit talking; though collectively, the people involved were much much more dangerous than now. I think it kind of made people behave better. We were not hip to mail order seeds so genetics was just growing seeds from the best weed you could find, though I more sophisticated growers were certainly hitting up the dutch. People would come back from California with mind blowing seedless weed, it just wasn't something we knew how to do in my locale. Other than liking the culture/people a bit more; holy crap it's amazing to grow weed now. Not going to jail and minimal worry about people killing you for a lb is a breath of fresh air. Most folks I knew that were really into growing split for CA right around 2000 when it opened up and damn that was amazing, was a domestic Amsterdam. Oh...and mexican brick weed could still be awesome sometimes.
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05-04-2017, 07:31 AM	#7
Lester Beans Frequent Flyer Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ~ In The Garden Pulling Weeds ~ Posts: 3,223	I sure wish I knew what it was like to grow worry free. I hope everyone that does appreciates what the old cats have done so they have the freedom. Trust fund growers are buying the beers as far as I'm concerned!
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05-05-2017, 05:55 AM	#9
ctg Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: own private planet Posts: 124	Outdoors and then to custom boxes with floros in the early years, lots of paranoia and thievery. Has come a long way since, lots of ups and downs. Glad to be where we are but shouldn't become lazy or not be cautious. Interesting times for sure
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