[Jhhnn]

Originally Posted by DocTim420

Of course if you google: large hollow stem cannabis

Then you will find a plethora of statements such as this:


Males that have large hollow main stems are sought out rather than males that are more pith-filled stems - the main reason are that large hollow stemmed males are better THC producers than other plants.

Cannabis culture has created its own mythologies.

[mojave green]

Originally Posted by Jhhnn

Cannabis culture has created its own mythologies.

Flushing, defoliating, etc.

[jidoka]

Cannabis culture ought to read a book

[Jhhnn]

Originally Posted by mojave green

Flushing, defoliating, etc.

I have no idea. Organic soil spares me all of the hydro stuff & I don't get nearly as deep into it as some people. I mess with the plants as little as possible, like to just let 'em grow & let the blumats water 'em. They reward us with more than enough for our purposes.

[ganjygav]

Originally Posted by Jhhnn

I have no idea. Organic soil spares me all of the hydro stuff & I don't get nearly as deep into it as some people. I mess with the plants as little as possible, like to just let 'em grow & let the blumats water 'em. They reward us with more than enough for our purposes.

Yeah I've always grown in organic soil but I use biobizz so I'm a cheater.
I had brown spots once so I come looking advice on the forums and ended up changing my growing style. I started leaving my water out 24hrs. It may be good for some but not me. The ph of the water sat out gets really high.
So then I started using ph down acids because I was told I need to adjust ph in soil.
Anyway problems came with these changes I had made but I didn't realize they were the problem. I thought I was doing good stuff.

So I started looking for fixes for the new problems. Started using calmag and watering 3 x the volume I normally did to get run off. I stopped feeding every watering which caused fluctuating ph levels between waterings and made my plants get deficiencies.
Plants still suffered.
Anyway I thought last grow, screw this I'm going back to the way I first grew.
I dropped the ph meter, I only let my water sit for 12hrs, I water little with no run off and more often and I feed every watering.

Guess what? My plants this grow are the healthiest they've been in years.

There is some good information on forums but there's also a lot of stoner logic and false science.

Keep it simple and let them grow.

[Dakine]

True that Cannabis Culture created A BUNCH of mythology/myths. BUT common sense usually will tell us if something is wrong or doesnt sound right lol. Its just that when you get these 1st time grow experts looking it up on google(since the internet is nothing but the truth), and on the 1st page of google its showing other 1st timers agreeing with them. They think theyre right and everyone else and the experienced growers are wrong.

Even after doing pretty extensive research on this "hollow stem" subject.. There isnt A definent answer to whether or not its strain related if it isnt nutrients related and/or age/maturity of the plant...

Im still "iffy" on this though. Only because many books/articles explaining about stems and the internal parts of the stem, are saying that the stems will become hollow later in maturity.

But idk about these other people saying that the more hollow a stem is. The more water and nutrients can be transferred throughout the plant.. Like seriously? This is basic plant knowledge, well should be if you call yourself A grower and are giving information out to other growers...

I also came up with my own conclusion based on some research and my own personal opinion and experience. So say Mature branches do become stiff,solid, and slightly hollow after A awhile or when it actually hits full maturity. Which im sure isnt hapenning in the 5months people usually have there plants till..

If your plant is healthy and getting most of or the main nutrients it needs to stay healthy at tip top shape. Wouldnt the cells grow, which would make the xylem and phloem walls increase in size to be able to provide the water and nutrients the plant will need since growing? Which I would think would actually fill in the stems that got slightly hollow from hitting maturity, if they actually got that noticeably hollow?

I still havent found any information anywhere that states water and nutrients are traveling through that hollow space in the stem lol.. But its amazing how many people ive come across online that think that..

[ganjygav]

That's the trap I fell into. I came looking for information and took in everything I read and took it for gospel.
I got the information from threads in various growing forums and I didn't think twice about it. These people know what they're talking about I thought and I didn't know any different.
I followed advice and didn't argue because I didn't feel I could justify the argument. I didn't still don't give a lot of advice to other growers because I don't feel I have the answers.
I will comment on stuff with my experiences and I think that's all anybody can do unless they have some sort of botanical degree.

I'm not sure what to think about the hollow stems so I'm not going to because I don't need to.
I've seen plenty of Woody and hollow stems. I've never noticed any difference between the 2. My plants still grow lovely buds either way. I have to support all my plants late in flower no matter how the stem is.
When my plants have had issues and there has been plenty check my albums, the problems have effected all plants no matter the stem.
So I doubt a hollow stem means problems.
I have no clue if a solid or hollow allows more water and feed to travel. I don't need to know this information so I don't seek it.
Even if someone came a long with the answer it wouldn't matter to me because the hollow stems produce buds and that's what matters at the end of the day.

[Dakine]

Haha I like you Ganjy, you speak the truth and I like that. Yes it would be fine if those growers who really didnt know the truth or answer said there opinion based off of personal experience. Thats what I do, but some of them are giving wrong information out and stating it as facts while backing it up by saying "A bunch of other growers said so" or something along those lines.

LOL I was about to tell you that I already stated what actually transfers water,nutrients, and sugars throughout the plant/stems in this thread.. I do think the main problem with A hollow stem is that the more hollow it is, the weaker it gets.. Which means the less chance of it being able to support its self in flower.. That means or most likely means that its also using energy and wasting precious energy that could be used for flowering on trying to make the stems stronger to support its self..

[ganjygav]

Yup, I had an older grower I know explain to me once about the plants wasting energy supporting themselves. I showed him my plants when I first started growing and I never used to support them before this. He showed me signs the plant was stressed with the dark stems and the like.
So yeah I agree with that.

We can only talk about our own experience, what applies to me does not apply to everyone else's grows.
Some of the stuff I've read and tried that didn't work for me probably did work for someone else. There is no fix all solution.
You just gotta find ya own way.
But people shouldn't go around spreading information like its the Bible because like I say. It may work for them but it will most probably complicate things for others. Especially people like me who didn't know much (still don't) and come in search of advice.

[jidoka]

Nutrients travel into the plant through the xylem. Look up where the xylem is suppose to be