[CosmicCharlie]

Originally Posted by RustyShcklfrd

Not sure what you were trying to get at at all, but the niche market its where its at for any small farm no matter what your growing, and I absolutely get 4-5× grocery prices at farmers market all day haha and when bud it 2 buck a gram from phillip morris, people will definately pay 10 a gram for real herb. Your prices are way off for sure once things go legit. You probably right of folks were to continue growing commercial cannabis like commercial flowers, but thats definately not going to be the case. The big farms will be planting acres and using traditional farm equipment and when people start growing herb as an agriculture product and not as a horti product prices will bottom and its going to be waaaay less than 100 and oz. Idk like I said they can have it ill grow my own.

Did you look at the link Purplefrostbyte posted?

They are going to be $89 a pack and who knows what quality?!

[stoned-trout]

I never liked their tobacco ,,I highly doubt I would like their weed....yeehaw

[RustyShcklfrd]

Originally Posted by MJPassion

And this is the reason the corporate world maintains a majority of the market share.
Your fuckin greedy!!!

That is one of the most ignorant fucking things Ive read on here in a while. Calling a fucking dirt farmer greedy, way to show your fool card right off the bat. Cause ya, it cost me the same to produce as a large corporation...are you that ignorant that you actually believe that?Im not even going to give you the time of day expaining how little you made yourself sound, and what it takes to run a fucking small family farm but if anybody else feels the need to question me PM me and I will gladly share. In the mean time stop letting your ignorance fool you and keep your mouth garbage to yourself, and ill take solice in the fact that you wouldnt think about calling me greedy if you werent hiding behind a computer. Go ahead and respond but Im not going to play the back and forth with you, im a real life type of guy, so till then......

Man I hate when things get hostile and stupid around here, as much as anybody, but man i cant help get irritated if someones going to call me lazy or greedy, especially if its just some fuck who have no idea. I apologize to everyone who wasted time reading this. Man that pisses me off.

[Bwanabud]

If there is money to be made PM will jump in the game, and run people over with their money and power.

[SneakySneaky]

theyve been in the game since before it was legal just waiting like a vulture. without going too much into specifics a friend of ours does custom heating and ac work, like high end hermetically sealed hospital grade installations. about 2 years ago he started working on the green houses, 50 football field sized computer controlled retracting roof greenhouses all push button controlled. wanna guess who paid for it just waiting for oregon to legalize it, marlboro sponsored by monsanto backed by the us gov..... due to signed contracts he couldnt say that, but the look in his eye when i hit the nail on he head said it all. remember that episode of weeds where the marlboro guy is talking about making "chemosabes" welp get ready for marlboro greens.

[thejact55]

My 2 cents. I share alots of similar views as sneakysneaky. If weed is a billion dollar business (which it is) why wouldn't RJ Reynolds, Phillip Morris, Monsanto ect get into it? They will and they have. If money is to be made, the best of the best will infiltrate.
How do you fight it?? This will take a hit to the awesome growers of the world that are in business, but its really one or the other.
Lets cut the shit...is weed really worth what is being paid?? NO!. I threw a quarter pound in the trash last month...literally threw it away. some people pay 1000 dollars for that!?! Why? Weed is worth zero dollars to me. I would never pay 20 bucks for a few bowls. I would never pay 200 for an ounce. Its worth as much as carrots and celery to me.
So the point I am making, the decision is to make weed worth nothing, and cut out the greedy corportations, or keep making your own profits and accept they will be big players.
If the government was smart, they would be dropping bricks of bud out of planes for the public to use for free. How would the cartels make money? they wouldnt. bye bye crime.
So decide, is weed a plant that really, after set-up and some nice seeds to get mothers from to clone, all the cost to have it is an electric bill (literally worth nothing), or is it a plant that can keep being extorted as a cash crops. sorry to the grerat breeders that are doing good work, I feel for you. I dont give a shit either way, I buy seeds and grow as a hobby, and as a light smoke, I never go through my crops. And I dont care to make a dime, not my cup of tea. But some people have to choose, is this something that should be as cheap as oats, or keep making money and allow the big players to thrive..cause they will...

[WelderDan]

Tobacco is much more difficult to grow than cannabis. It is much more labor intensive, and grows in a much narrower range of climate than cannabis does. Cannabis, being easier to grow, and commanding a much higher price per pound is a logical step since tobacco use is declining.

The tobacco industry once lobbied intensely against cannabis legalization. They saw it as a competitor. Until tobacco use started declining that is. With more and more evidence tobacco caused all kinds of health problems, the fact that tobacco was no longer allowed to be advertised, and the minimum age to purchase tobacco raised to 21, tobacco took a huge hit. Add to that the hefty taxes being applied to tobacco, and the writing is on the wall. The tobacco companies can't recruit new addicts fast enough to see continued profits. Adapt or die.

Plus they already have the means to process and package plant matter, and a switch to cannabis would be relatively simple.

Philip Morris and the Altria group would be stupid if they didn't attempt to get in the game. You can bet they are watching, and they will jump in eventually. There is too much money to be made for them not to.

[Bubbamaniac]

Big Tobacco, Big Ag,.... As many of the Bigs will all be staking there claims as legalization emerges over the dawn. It's simply just too much money to leave to a free market. I really honest too God wouldn't be surprised if, or should I say when full scale legalization is passed federally that all the laws change. In all honesty, and this is strictly my opinion I could see them restructuring how the cannabis industry is ran all together. As in dispensaries gone, growers gone, and restructure it so that "big" interests control it solely, like big tobacco, big ag et. Does Phillip Morris have enough money and resources to supply the country with marijuana? The answer you bet ya! Billions of dollars can get any job done. Why would they do this? Well the answer is simple too keep as much money between taxes, and there friends as possible. The market is too big and valuable to not control it just saying.....

[JohnKimble]

Originally Posted by thejact55

Lets cut the shit...is weed really worth what is being paid?? NO!. I threw a quarter pound in the trash last month...literally threw it away. some people pay 1000 dollars for that!?! Why? Weed is worth zero dollars to me. I would never pay 20 bucks for a few bowls. I would never pay 200 for an ounce. Its worth as much as carrots and celery to me.

I wish I had your problems man.. lol You sound like your taking it for granted. People dont realize what they have till its gone.

[thejact55]

Originally Posted by JohnKimble

I wish I had your problems man.. lol You sound like your taking it for granted. People dont realize what they have till its gone.

I understand where your coming from man. I think my difference is I smoke way light. Like a gram a week, one to three hits in the evening, regardless of ounces just sitting in front of me. I just love growing and always have in my adult life. I guess since I don't have the same outlook on weed as most people.
My rant was correct in concept but not necessarily reasonable to an overall population with different living circumstances and consumption levels.