[MaynardG_Krebs]

After a month or so, I got tired of the whole thing. I much prefer the portable hand held units. I have both the Solo and the Air. I get higher using them than all the fiddling with the contraptionary involved in the table top model. I'm not saying it's not good, but just not my style.. I gave mine away..

mgk

New Volcano arriving Friday - yay.
Started with a Vapezilla (i know there's much hate but mine was an early model, US built and was great), went on to the Herbalizer (used a transformer, the voltage blew it, they were less than helpful, I'd go as far as useless ****s, so I'm $1000 down on that - if anyone wants to buy it cheap from the US and get it repaired, pm me )
Haven't had a vapouriser for a while now, I'll probably still keep on the doobies though, ritual and all that

[sprinkl]

I've had it for two days now, got high as a kite each night. I love it! And no more joints, I'm feeling less of an urge to smoke cigarettes as well... A lot of coughing too as well, smoke can sting quite badly but my lungs have been pummeled with tobacco for years so it might just be me, or the weed I'm smoking which is still pretty fresh - longer cured bud seems to go down smoother. Would it be useful to pull the smoke through water? Out of the bag it's not hot though... The whip can give somewhat warm smoke but not too bad. Depends on how hard you hit it I guess.
I've noticed that when starting a bowl it can take a reasonably long time of hitting it before I'm getting actual hits. Or is the first vapor smokeless? Maybe the water needs to evaporate first before the good stuff vapes...
I like the bags as the taste remains the same throughout. Just gotta figure out when to stop the fan before the taste goes bad. I've tried second bags but I usually just squeeze them empty, a lot of smoke and a nutty taste, I don't think there's much cannabinoids left. Makes me wonder what is in all that smoke.

So do you guys vape until it's completely done or do you stop before it? I figure I rather keep it for cannabutter than smoke something that doesn't taste well...

[theJointedOne]

Originally Posted by sprinkl

I've had it for two days now, got high as a kite each night. I love it! awesome congratsAnd no more joints, I'm feeling less of an urge to smoke cigarettes as well... I'm sure your body is thanking you for thatA lot of coughing too as well, smoke can sting quite badly but my lungs have been pummeled with tobacco for years so it might just be me, or the weed I'm smoking which is still pretty fresh - longer cured bud seems to go down smoother. Would it be useful to pull the smoke through water? Out of the bag it's not hot though... The whip can give somewhat warm smoke but not too bad. Depends on how hard you hit it I guess.
I've noticed that when starting a bowl it can take a reasonably long time of hitting it before I'm getting actual hits. Or is the first vapor smokeless? Maybe the water needs to evaporate first before the good stuff vapes...
I like the bags as the taste remains the same throughout. Just gotta figure out when to stop the fan before the taste goes bad. I've tried second bags but I usually just squeeze them empty, a lot of smoke and a nutty taste, I don't think there's much cannabinoids left. Makes me wonder what is in all that smoke. you keep referring to the vapor as smoke, remember you're not smoking, there is no combustion happening. You are vaporizing!!!

So do you guys vape until it's completely done or do you stop before it? I figure I rather keep it for cannabutter than smoke something that doesn't taste well... the remaining bud after you vape is referred to as AVB or already vaped bud, some folks call it ABV or Already been vaped. Regardless of the name, save it! It makes excellent canna butter. Its basically decarbed bud ready to cook with...

Welcome to the club

[exploziv]

If you are vaping at a resonable temperature, let's say 220 C it should never taste bad.
And the avb still contains some cannabinoids in it, you can make cannabutter from that. you need more than you would need fresh bud, and the effect will be more on the indica/couchlock side, but good enaugh if you don't have enaugh "fresh" bud to use it for cooking as well.
Pulling the vapours though water does not help, and it probably makes it less efficient. Depending on the temperature you are using, you can get less dense vapours at start, but they should be filled with aroma cause of the terpenes that vaporize first. If you want to experience that start at 170-180 degrees C, then go up from there. You should also leave the herbs to heat up a bit in the chamber. When the vape hits desired temps doesn't really mean it is up to temp, cause the glass needs to heat up as well. This can also be the reason you don't see vapours straight away.

Enjoy your vape! It's a great vape!

[sprinkl]

Thanks guys

I only vaped at 200 and 210 so far, going to try the 220c setting now.
Yeah I noticed there was flavor, but no actual impact on the lungs nor vapor coming out. Guess it's indeed just the terpenes then.
And the second bag really gets thick smoke, err I mean vapor. I really want to get to the bottom of this - what is in that vapor and why doesn't it get so thick the first few minutes it's producing vapor? Is it because the weed gets dryer and dryer allowing more oils to be accessed?

[angelgoob]

Although I can't comment on the Arizer but I have to agree with the jointed on. Having a vape with battery in it is awesome. Forgot what one I got. Lost it somewhere.