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Old 06-15-2015, 02:11 AM #41
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I am subbed, and Dave I kindly request that you consider making seeds and either vending or donating to Gypsy's bail fund or the server fund on those Durban Poisons. Afropips is a breeder name whom I would trust to be legitimate with the DP line, and it would be nice to have more of his work available to breeders and growers. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to your progress.
Agreed! Theres so much bs durban seeds out there cough cough dutch passion kiss my ass... Ive never bought their garby, never would.

Far as donating to gypsy, anyone who can afford it should. Thats a fucked situation to be in over owning a site that vends seeds... Poor dude that shit is wack
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Thanks for the info Dave. I will do by best to do them justice.

I do have one Thai x Carrot, and a Mango Haze hybrid going at the moment as far as the sativas are concerned. Looking forward to seeing what I will find for sure.

But the African project is soon after this round of sexing and selection. Hopefully I will have a nicer space to work with by early 2016. I don't want to be to hasty with the Senegal and will wait for the right space and opportunity. Eventually I want to cross Zamaldellica and the Senegal.

Did you find any stable males when you ran the Senegal Haze? The seeds I have are at F2, and I would like to bring them to am F3 generation. I only have ten to work with but its worth a shot.

I will pay attention to your Gypsie Thai for advice on training tips.
Ooo that Thai x Carrot sounds delectable. Me likey . Ive ran Mr Nice Mango Haze before, but she's no longer in my garden. Sam's HazeSkunk spoiled me long before Shanti's Mango Haze came along. Id rather cull em if they can't compare, but they were still quite good. I hope something magical comes out of them.

You're being wise on not rushing the African Sativas. They demand your time and attention. It isn't easy flowering out a plant for 120 days+. Best to have your garden and your game in tip top shape before attempting. The cross of Zamaldelica x Senegal sounds excellent. Its a real treat to grow, love, and ultimately smoke your own creation.

I dont recall having any males of the Senegal Haze. I may have had poor germination and I didn't keep any females around. I was a fool back then. Im a more patient person now, and I dont mind running a long flowering sativa twice or three times before deciding to keep. If Im investing 130days+ whats another 130 for a second run?

I saw your thread on Senegal Haze, and I believe there was alot of misinformation in that thread about the genetic background of Senegal Haze. I dont think for one instant it has any NH in it. It smelled nothing like any Haze Hybrids Ive grown out. Plus there is this strain description..

Senegal Haze is a powerful F1 marijuana hybrid dominated by a Pure Senegal sativa from the Cassamanca growing region and a powerful psychoactive Phoenix Haze of a pure African landrace. Her seeds grow fast and short 10 days vegetation is usually enough. This cannabis variety produces strong light green/gold plants with narrow sativa leaves and modern indica sizes.

Judging by that description, its a pure sativa, but you'll know for sure once you get to grow them out. 10 isn't much but its better than nothing. Give it a go and do your best.
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I am subbed, and Dave I kindly request that you consider making seeds and either vending or donating to Gypsy's bail fund or the server fund on those Durban Poisons. Afropips is a breeder name whom I would trust to be legitimate with the DP line, and it would be nice to have more of his work available to breeders and growers. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to your progress.
I decided long ago to make seeds with this line, so dont fret. An open pollination with pure females and pure males if Im blessed enough. I definitely want to donate so they can be spread around and preserved. Then Ill start my own 1:1 lines with the best for personal projects.

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Agreed! Theres so much bs durban seeds out there cough cough dutch passion kiss my ass... Ive never bought their garby, never would.

Far as donating to gypsy, anyone who can afford it should. Thats a fucked situation to be in over owning a site that vends seeds... Poor dude that shit is wack
Yeah piss on DP. The more flashy advertisements I see from a seed company, generally the shittier the product, but I believe thats true for any product really.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:01 AM #44
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I decided long ago to make seeds with this line, so dont fret. An open pollination with pure females and pure males if Im blessed enough. I definitely want to donate so they can be spread around and preserved. Then Ill start my own 1:1 lines with the best for personal projects.



Yeah piss on DP. The more flashy advertisements I see from a seed company, generally the shittier the product, but I believe thats true for any product really.
On occasion flashy adds go with a dope product, but rarely. I own some monster headphones, pretty nice ones top of the line. Anyway their add for diamon tears headphones of theirs is pretty flashy but the product is truly dope. All their headphones are pretty awesome and distortion free even at high volumes...

Yeah hell with dp anyway. Garby company. I wouldnt grow their shit if you gave it to me free.

Yeah ill be after some of your durbans for breeding purpose.

Are you going to post a pick of the pack? Ive never seen what their packs looked like....
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Thanks Meso. You took care of it. I am going to update the Strain Description post to include pics of the packaging the Thai and DP were in.

Speaking of DP, the next wave of seeds is coming up! Ive already had two break the surface, and a third who was kinda confused and I had to rebury the tail as it came out first..Id love to see more spring up today.
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I was under the impression that Senegal Haze was a pure African hybrid too. When I made that thread I was hoping for information or grows of Senegal Haze and possible pure Phoenix Haze. It's a hard line to get info on with the original breeder having passed a while back.

I remembered Senegal Haze come up during the Grail/Nevil days at MNS. People where saying it was a great plant but most likely was not descended from SSH/NH.

I do have seeds of both SSH and NH so could do a comparison grow, but I am leaning towards the hybrid of two separate but pure African lines. I also have a few Frankenfuel (Kariba Surprise x NH) for a African/Haze selection. They might be another good option to breed to the Senegal too.

If I don't have any luck finding a solid male breeder I can always try a few fem projects to preserve the lines.


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I saw your thread on Senegal Haze, and I believe there was alot of misinformation in that thread about the genetic background of Senegal Haze. I dont think for one instant it has any NH in it. It smelled nothing like any Haze Hybrids Ive grown out. Plus there is this strain description..

Senegal Haze is a powerful F1 marijuana hybrid dominated by a Pure Senegal sativa from the Cassamanca growing region and a powerful psychoactive Phoenix Haze of a pure African landrace. Her seeds grow fast and short 10 days vegetation is usually enough. This cannabis variety produces strong light green/gold plants with narrow sativa leaves and modern indica sizes.

Judging by that description, its a pure sativa, but you'll know for sure once you get to grow them out. 10 isn't much but its better than nothing. Give it a go and do your best.
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Hey Dave,

I was under the impression that Senegal Haze was a pure African hybrid too. When I made that thread I was hoping for information or grows of Senegal Haze and possible pure Phoenix Haze. It's a hard line to get info on with the original breeder having passed a while back.

I remembered Senegal Haze come up during the Grail/Nevil days at MNS. People where saying it was a great plant but most likely was not descended from SSH/NH.

I do have seeds of both SSH and NH so could do a comparison grow, but I am leaning towards the hybrid of two separate but pure African lines. I also have a few Frankenfuel (Kariba Surprise x NH) for a African/Haze selection. They might be another good option to breed to the Senegal too.

If I don't have any luck finding a solid male breeder I can always try a few fem projects to preserve the lines.

I too have not been able to find much info on the Phoenix Haze aspect of it, but its a great name for a variety. I can't say Im not surprised its been used by others.

Senegal Haze is pure sativa hybrid with no skunk or northern lights in it. Ive had alot of skunk in my garden, and you wont find any sign of skunk in Senegal Haze. F1 Hybrids have great vigor, and the F1 Senegal Haze I ran had hybrid vigor in abundance quickly outgrowing everything in my garden at the time.

I have mr Nice SkunkHaze and NH sitting in my freezer, but If I had S. Haze again, I would choose the Senegal Haze first, but I find pure sativas more challenging and ultimately more enjoyable. I couldn't fault you for going for the Haze Hybrids though. My freezer is full of em. I just dont have the space for every seed I want to pop.
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