[mr. gt]

Satori continued..




Bat pheno / Indica dom pictures:







Final thoughts on Satori:

Keeper in my book. Seems to be for creative possibly slightly trippy at AAA+ quality.

[mr. gt]

I live on the east coast by infamous NYC. Over here we have had the luxury of smoking 'Piff'. Still to this day I can taste the piff taste even at slightest thought of it. No exaggeration, it is the best overall weed I've ever smoked. Better than anything I've ever grown.

After reading through 48 pages of the ultimate Piff thread, which is a must read for any connoisseur. ( https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=90856 ) I've learned that the next closest thing to piff is Mr. Nice Seeds Mango Haze. Which brings me to my next topic. I need something like piff in my garden.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=103767

^^ coctail frank's comparasion between Piff and MNS Mango Haze (copy and pasted below)


Side note: I have seen Piff/Uptown haze / Satori / Mango haze all been compared.


Mr. Nice Seeds Mango Haze as compared to Piff by Icmag user cocktail frank:

Frank's Fave Weed
first and foremost, let me tell you why i started growing weed in the first place.

i am from the east coast.
near a small town called New York City, maybe you've heard of it?

i have made many trips uptown (harlem) to buy weed since i began smoking around 15-16 years old.
i used to take the bus in before i could legally drive, then eventually drove myself. cabs, subway, whatever it took to get to 173rd ( biggest sacks i ever got)
i went for one purpose and one purpose only, to cop the uptown haze.
some may call it "piff" altho that term is thrown around too loosely these days.
but i been burning this shit since the early to mid 90's
best weed on the planet imo
anybody who has ever smoked it will attest to that.

one day i decided to grow my own (as most of us here do) with the sole purpose of finding something similar to the uptown.
i have grown over 100 strains in my quest to no avail.
grown tons from seed and just about every clone only strain i could find.
i found some real killer strains in my day, but none that stacked up.
then one day.............

i got a cut of Mango Haze.
a buddy found this cut from 1 pack of mango haze seeds from shanti.
the rest is history.

this is the CLOSEST thing to the uptown that i have ever grown (or tried from another grower)
she is fire, she is all i need.
if i could only grow one strain, it be this.
it wouldnt even be a close race to be honest.
a few heads have this cut and we all agree, it dont get much better.
if you love a killer sat high, she is for you.
if you are an indy head, im sorry for you.
she is no 8 weeks strain.
she goes at least 12 weeks, depending on if you like her a bit more stony.
i feel she still is like a punch to the face at 12.
but a straight to the moon soaring high.

now ive grown all sorts of "elites"
IMO this shits on any OG kush.
craps on chem d too.
not like they arent real special, but they cant touch this queen.

take a look around these forums, i dont bullshit about trees.
many know me and respect what i say.
i say go and get these beans if they are around.
if they arent around, wait for them, dont miss them!

now for some pix........

Pics courtesy of cocktail frank



^^Look at that fucking beautiful fox tail!!! : )




Now more about the strain and its effects


Mr. Nice Seeds Mango Haze


Sativa ( I think?) : p
Uses/Effects: Great for outdoor activities, souring, intense, clean sativa high, but can be slightly trippy (if at all like the NY piff) and if too much smoked, uplifting, heady/cerebral


Quotes: ( i could barely find smoke reports..huh?

"This Mango Haze cut = The Uptown Haze

100% Without Any Doubts

Blew my mind when I smelt it for the first time. "
icmag user ARTofMAKINGfire

" Supposedly Shanti's favorite strain"


Final thoughts:

Clear cerebral high and great for outdoors. Seems to be the strain for daytime, assuming not too much is smoked at once. If clear enough, hopefully good for work also.


~mr. gt

[mr. gt]

So I'm not sure which direction I am taking this thread. Basically putting all collected info on the strains in 1 thread. I am going to finish it up with which pheno's I will be hunting, how many days to finish and the reason I am choosing them. I will also have notes for myself. I would love to find others opinions on why they grow a certain strain and if its their favorite for a certain occasion.


Tom Hill Original Haze:
Phenos: Mint(acid?), purple, silver blue pheno?
Medium/nutes(from Tom): "Other than this I usually grow in soil, and go rather light on the feeding schedule."
Effects: Lime (acid pheno) "lots of people it gives um the paranoia, where they have a hard time hangin in a social atmosphere. sent many parties home early."
"friends have heard birds at night when theres no birds around, ringin in your ears. lights and such are vivid."









^last pic supposed Golden/Columbian gold? version..holy moly huh


Originally Posted by TomHill
Hi B.Friendly,

The high is not consistent, this has always been my experience with this Haze. Regarding effect, most I'd rank as an up, cerebral, sociable, medium/high potency to varying degrees. Some though are incredibly friggen potent - a sometimes concerning intense high that lasts for 4+ hours. Of course these later types are the ones we enjoy most, or I do anyway. My experience has been that approximately 5% are absolutely outstanding, representing well this reputation/legend of the Haze high. There is some full-on hay in there too, I don't know, I guess I'd say that 10-20% piss me off as a waste of time? The vast majority of the line though falls somewhere between these two extremes. -Tom


I have had Original Haze that was almost like acid, unexperienced smokers would white-out or pass-out, or throw up after a toke or two...
Oh, and it was Euphoric to say the least. I would feel like I was floating in a cloud, or held in the hands of a comfortable giant, I had no need for anything, I was totally blissed. - Sam the Skunkman

"can you pick out the acid pheno just based on appearance? I thought from reading Tom Hill's descriptions of it, you won't know if you have found it until you smoke it, then there will be little doubt... "

Posted by Tom. I have a pack of these f2's : D

Though coming up here soon I will do a Deep Chunk/Haze F2 for an affordable price (40-45). This F2 would be what I'd bring to my "dropped off on a desert island" scenario . As well as an excellent starting point for a longer term breeding project. -Tom

Originally Posted by TomHill
Some facts about this line.

Posi stock "Original Haze" winter 95-96 (just before they closed up shop i believe), one of about 27 lines from 4-5 seedbanks brought back, all others quickly shitcanned .
Said to be in the high teens gen wise at that time, but still highly heterozygous in my observation.
I've put less than 10 generations on this line ending in an open pollenation before release. There has been zero of what i would refer to as "holes" in the pedigree under my care (all breeding plants (+-5%)in the ped were rockstars leading up to the OP round). A definate needle in a haystack line, always has been. One in twenty are keepers, the rest are well, hay .. God help us, i think we're sick

Tom



Notes:
"Also, any tips on how to spot the best plants early on? I've hear of metallic smells during veg and resinous stems are the one's to keep and cull all the rest." - Big City

"but it is true... The very best examples I have had over the years also had resinous stalks in veg." - Tom Hill

"the lime green phenos are bomb...even if they look like schwag " - Raco

"it is my favorite plant on the planet - bar none." -Tom

"These Hazes are hard to kill...clone easily and they are hermie-proof ...I´ve tried hard (not chemicals so far) " - Raco



Lots of this info with Tom's input comes from this thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=157714&page=1





The past 3 strains have all been called peoples favorite smoke. That was 3 sativa's. I do have some indica Rez's Chemdog ibl, Tom's Deep chunk and deep chunk x haze f2's. Besides that I don't have many Elites.


I will continue to work on this and actually found another thread like this one, just not so pheno orientated with facts and what not here.... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=139146 . That's kind of how I want to sum it up. That thread is 5 years old now..


~mr. gt

[Miraculous Meds]

Mango haze has been on my radar for a while!!!

Good luck with ur search. As im finding out its gonna take some time to sift through all those strains. Get it going. lol No time like the present.

I chose to go with small plants to test phenos, then run the best again to select down to 1 or 2 keepers per strain.

Wow just saw the acid phenol, that tom hills correct? that looks aweful interesting!!

[mr. gt]

Originally Posted by Miraculous Meds

Mango haze has been on my radar for a while!!!

Good luck with ur search. As im finding out its gonna take some time to sift through all those strains. Get it going. lol No time like the present.

I chose to go with small plants to test phenos, then run the best again to select down to 1 or 2 keepers per strain.

Wow just saw the acid phenol, that tom hills correct? that looks aweful interesting!!

Thank god I'm moving to a place where i have a whole 600 sq. feet to do with whatever I please! Pheno hunting sounds like just a lot of weed I need to smoke. haha

shh.. dont give away the secret. It's supposed to be a tease : p

[mr. gt]

Next will be Tom's deep chunk. Another crowd favorite.






According to this thread ( https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=139146 ) Deep Chunk's good for sleep, asthma.

I will update tomorrow.


~mr. gt

[Mister_D]

Excellent smoke reports Subbed for further updates

[crazyfool*]

excellent thread man! ....

[944s2]

bloody great photos,,,,some beautiful colours,,,,very, very nice work,,keep on keeping on mate,,,,peace and regards 944s2

[mr. gt]

Thanks guys. I think I needed that little charisma boost! Thought maybe I was boring people.




Anyways.. I just picked up some more seeds:



MNS Mango Haze x 2 packs
Satori
Og Raskal's - White s1
Og Raskal's Fire bx - (since I cant get any damn wifi!!)
Reserva Privada sour kush aka headband - grew previously and really liked it
Reserva Privada - Kosher Kush
Nirvana's Blue mystic. I just love the taste of this one

freebee's

Karma Genetics Strawbanana cream

kosher kush - 2 seeds just to try out
Cali Con. Grape og
Royal seeds Critical : /
710 genetics - 710 mango
710 genetics - high priority
Vision seeds - chocoloco
Seeds of Life - Hindiana Auto - Be fun to try an auto

I think I got just as many freebies as packs I ordered. Stuff like Critical is just going to be given away to friends. haha. Its a true "cash cropper" apparently.


This time I will update and stop being lazy. I will shoot for after work today, if not by tomorrow.



~mr. gt